Working too hard...

Would be interesting to see if this has a positive, negative, or neutral effect.

 

Fede, McCain and Aikens I have seen constantly people talk about how much they have improved over last season during training camp.

 

I am now really curious what the 2014 numbers are and the 2015 numbers. Max of what?

 

Percentage numbers without context are always dangerous. For example, if I put in just one hour extra time last year and this year I put in two, my percentage increases by 100%, but my total isn't really all that impressive. So it's hard for us to say anything on guys we know little about. But I would guess that for a guy like Tannehill who has long had a reputation for putting a lot of extra work in to increase it another 20% is probably pretty impressive. And we know that he put a ton of extra time in outside of the facility. This also doesn't represent guys like Landry and Suh who have the rep for putting in a ton of work on their own. And also new guys like Jordan Phillips who we had no base line to compare, but we know put in some extra work with Suh outside the facility.

 

To increase what? Their metric score? Their bench press? What do these numbers mean?

 

"# of voluntary days in the building"

 

By this Tannehill spent 28 days last year?

 

But the max numbers are over 365. That's why I am confused.

 

The first number is the # of Voluntary days in the Building.

 

That number isn't what the % increase is referring to. I believe they just cite days in the building, then they are calculating the % increase in some type of score. My guess is that it is either A) bench press, or B) some type of composite score for weight lifting or endurance.

 

I think that you're right. If so, am I reading i right that Tannehill scored higher than Sims did? Impressive for the QB.

 

Wouldn't it be so much easier for a 2nd year guy to show a massive % increase, since they don't have near as many possible days to voluntarily enter the building the previous season...the draft is in May, after all.

 

When I saw Earl Mitchell's numbers compared to everyone elses it made me think bench press or some kind of workout....

Doesn't really make sense...

 

I dont think ryan can bench more than billy so something is not right with that, but to see that ryan had the most days in the building is how it should be...good job.

billy turner is your strating right guard.

 

Cam Wake leads the league in Dongage, and he's not even on this list, so it's not Dongage they're measuring.

 

It's gotta be squats.

 

This. There's no way those are benching numbers. Those look like squat numbers.




It's got to suck to be Billy Turner. All that extra work and progress and he's getting bulldozed by Suh on a daily basis. Can't be good for his psyche lol.

 

Having a hard time believing that our qb squats more then our rt.

 

Maybe after facing Suh every day in practice, playing in an actual game against someone else will feel like a day off by comparrison.

 

Why?

- James has 100 lbs of body weight on Tannehill. Weight on the bar isn't the only factor to consider.
- Tannehill has been in an NFL strength and conditioning program for 3x longer than James. College players transitioning into the NFL, going into their second year almost always add size and strength if they're fully participating. People can only add so much strength during a specific time period. James beat Tannehill in terms of % of max (whatever the lift) added.
-And I don't think Tannehill is your classic potbelly QB. He earned his stripes as a positional player (WR) in his first two and 1/2 seasons at Texas A&M. The work ethic required in the weight room to succeed at that position probably carried over as Tannehill transitioned from starting WR/Backup QB to starting QB.


I'm not saying those numbers are definitively squat numbers. In fact, I bet they're deadlift numbers. The dead lift is widely considered the king of all lifts for strength building, as it requires the entire body to preform correctly. If you were going to single out a specific lift to demonstrate overall body strength, the DL would be your best example to highlight.

If they're a reference to a strength building lift, which will be a compound lift (a lift that requires the use of multiple muscle groups simultaneously to preform), then our choices are; Bench Press, Shoulder Press, Upright Rows, Power Cleans, Squats, or deadlift. That makes upper body compound lifts less likely. JJ benched 250 lbs, 22 times at the NFL combine. I doubt his max was 350 in 2014. So Bench Press, Shoulder Press, and Rows are out of consideration, IMO.

That leaves Squats, Deadlifts, and Power Cleans. I could buy any one of those 3 as the lift in question. Those three lifts are all full body lifts w/lower body as primary target, but also require a significant amount of core, back, and shoulders to perform. And it wouldn't shock me to see a lineman not being to out lift a QB, as body proportion (leg, abdomen, arm length) factor heavily into the anatomical levers needed to lift huge numbers. For example, someone w/shorter arms and a long torso has bad deadlift levers. Someone with opposite proportions could have great levers for the DL.

 

You're right. Which makes you wonder things like, where's jordan tripp? Landry? (He works out with ODB I believe so I kno why he wasn't at the facility). I wonder if the newly released Arthur lynch was anywhere on this list. Bet not.

 

The reason I really like this is that it makes it really obvious whose putting in work and who isn't. The guys who aren't will take one look at this and go "****". I for one am really hoping for big things from fede and McCain and I'm glad they're taking advantage of their opportunity.

Im happy to see Dallas thomas up there, at least he's trying