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Ronin's Review: Dolphins @ Redskins

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by RoninFin4, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I saw you started a thread about Lazor's play-calling. It's nice to know I'm not alone. His redzone play-calling is beyond frustrating to me.
     
  2. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    1st and Goal at the 3 =/= 3 passes!!!
     
  3. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    The first play almost had me breaking my remote. He tried to get way too cute there.
     
  4. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    I haven't said this often, but Lazor pissed me off today.
     
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  5. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Play calling overall for me. Specifically, abandoning the run game. I get that we're a pass oriented team and I like that. But later 3rd quarter we still only had like 5 RB carries. You just cannot be one-dimensional and expect to make noise. It was a problem today and it'll be an even bigger problem against better defenses.

    But then when it's 4th and short and we do actually run, we hand off to Damian Williams. This is where Jonas Gray should have been active. Hell, even Lamar would have been a better option there. Not our smallest back (LaMike ain't getting carries).

    That redzone series following the Grimes pick was soooo predicable. They got to be better everywhere going forward.

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  6. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They play where Dion Sims got hurt also comes to mind. Ryan Tannehill is right handed. Roll him to the right? Nah. Let's roll him left into the boundary.
     
  7. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    I thought the very same thing. The roll right that was nearly picked in the endzone seemed a direct response/correction.

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  8. slickj101

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    This game may have been even more frustrating to watch than how we ended last season.
     
  9. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Even at that, this roster is top-heavy. Other than the D-line and reciving corps, Miami's depth is not very good.
     
  10. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I may be alone, (probably am) but this felt like any number of games from the past decade against the Pats. Except, we were the Pats and Washington was us.

    It often felt like to me, that we'd outplay the Pats and give it everything we had, but penalties and TOs kept them in the game.

    In a way, its nice to be on the other side of that feeling for a change....but that wasn't pretty.

    Honestly, I felt like the offense was close with some throws being just a little off and Tannehill ignoring the pass rush, but honestly I feel like they'll be ok. The defense has me worried as Washington just showed the league how to stop Suh, which is cut block him every play.
     
  11. Rocky Raccoon

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    Yeah. I still trust Lazor, but I wasn't impressed today.


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  12. Bpk

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    We messed up, fellas. We have under-estimated our coaches' ability to under-utilize our players' ability.
     
  13. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It was half the GB game and half the 49ers game from 2008. The Niners dominated Miami in all facets that day but couldn't finish a drive. Miami won 14-9, but you felt gross afterwards. Today was sorta the same. Weaknesses got exposed plenty and scheme/play-calling were very suspect but you take the W.
     
  14. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    The kind of things we saw, Im glad happened in week 1 against an opponent that allowed us to overcome our own missteps. I expect better performances out of Lazor, Tannehill and that front 7 going forward.
     
  15. finfansince72

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    I was at the game, the first Fins game I've watched in person so I enjoyed it. There was actually a lot of Dolphin Fans there so the crowd was really good. We certainly didn't play the kind of game we all had hoped for but we did win a game despite playing poorly at times and it was week 1, not panic time.

    I thought we should have run more. I think Miller is a really good back and we get caught up trying to get big plays and get pass happy, we could have run the ball more than we did and I think that would have helped with the time of possession battle which we lost very badly. I don't like the shotgun run plays all the time and that 4th and 1 call was terrible although Kerrigan made an amazing play.

    Our Dline played badly a lot of the game but they did play well at times too, I'll give them a bit of a pass because they literally played on the field the entire 1st quarter and I think they were gassed the entire game.

    I like Cameron, I think our offense is a lot different with a real big target TE and if he stays healthy its a big deal. Landry is a stud, he's much more than a slot guy or possession guy, love his game. I liked that Matthews gave us some catches, he's been in the doghouse too long.

    Hey we won, have to take a road win anyway you can get it and move on to the next week.
     
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  16. djphinfan

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    Suh will counter the tactic..
     
  17. Fin D

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    He better, we didn't stop the run today and if we had, this would have been a much different game.
     
  18. Brasfin

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    DL was way to aggressive early on in the game, IMO. Don't know if my reasoning is correct, but I think we shouldn't take this approach on offenses like Washington's. Cousins has a knack for avoiding sacks and getting rid of the ball quickly and they have they have a good running game with shifty, aggressive backs. Combine that with a defensive line that constantly tries to penetrate into the backfield and it seems like a recipe for disaster. Hope we take a more conservative approach against teams like the Jets and Bills.
     
  19. IBleedBnG83

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    From my perspective, the Dolphins did a good job making adjustments and exposing weaknesses the Redskins defense has. Conversely, I thought the on only offensive touchdown Miami had was due in part to Joe Barry calling it conservative. Being late in the second quarter, Barry didn't want to give up a TD and didn't bring as much pressure. They gave Tannehill enough time to take advantage of the mismatches.

    On the other side of the ball, the Phins started playing the run much better and Gruden didn't adjust and wanted to keep running even when it wasn't working. He was playing scared. Despite the first INT, I don't put the second on Cousins, Cousin did a good job. He should have opened up the offense more and not late when the Redskins were forced to throw. They literally limited themselves in what they wanted to do.

    The biggest two X-factors - penalties and special teams. The Redskins KILLED themselves with penalties. And of course the punt return. And the Phins took advantage.
     
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  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I believe we've been the least penalized team in the league the past 2 seasons. That paid dividends today.
     
  21. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    The game was a lot closer than many of us thought. I suspected our offense would start the season a little slow, but I didn't expect our defense to give up so many rushing yards to you. And yes, the difference between losing and winning was basically which team shot itself in the foot less times and, at the end of the day, the Dolphins were that team. Honestly, I think if DeSean Jackson hadn't been injured early, it may have gone differently.

    Good luck to you the rest of the season and especially against the rest of the AFC East!
     
  22. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    The 2nd INT was just a crazy good play by McCain. The 1st one I'm not sure how much Cousins was at fault...Grimes had a helluva break on it. I thought the kid played a good game.
     
  23. CaribPhin

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    More and more, the current Miami Dolphins remind me of Tony Sparano's Dolphins. The mindset was essentially, our guys need to work hard to beat your guys. Sparano often harped on execution as if players play in a vacuum. I just don't see us doing anything special, especially on defense, to mask our shortcomings. The Redskins had a number of injuries at different times but the replacement level players seem to do fine enough while our starters get routinely abused. Example: Albert goes out and all of a sudden every part of our line crumbles. Our top talent routinely underperforms and it's endemic to our team over the past 15 years. We keep hiring different names with similar results.
     
  24. djphinfan

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    I think you need a traditional mike with instincts, so id let vigil have the job, and i think coyle needs to adjust the scheme, I think Phillips playing next to suh might be the right call Fin, hes got two things going for him that directly relate to stopping the run, he does not get moved backwards, and hes always pushing forward..I think you let him take care of the run stuffin and free up suh..I think if I go back and watch ill see when he comes in the run defense was better.
     
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  25. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    This. All off season we've been getting excited about this team. So has the media. In the back of my head there was a nagging thought. And it became an alarm clock watching the game yesterday. JOE PHILBIN IS STILL THE HEAD COACH. With all the talent they added to this roster, the only thing they didn't change was the guy in charge of it all and that will be this team's undoing. I know it's only week 1, but with how well the rest of the AFC East did this week and how poorly Miami looked for the majority of the game against an inferior team, it's hard to remain hopeful about this team the rest of the way. They really have to capitalize on this easy schedule. If they drop 2 or more against these bad teams coming up, they will be staring straight down the barrel of another 8-8 season or worse.
     
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  26. CD13

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    Agree...a little kind on Tannehill who I thought played bad...real bad if they lose.
     
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  27. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Agreed for the most part. I'm as big a Tannehill homer as you'll find on this board, but yesterday's game is cause for concern. Especially the miss to the wide open Kenny Stills. If Tannehill wants to take the next level to being a franchise QB he cannot miss wide open targets. It just can't happen.
     
  28. Alex13

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    that easy drop by Matthews was huge imo, on the next play the fumble 50 yards backwards happens
     
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  29. Hiruma78

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    about the 4th&1, maybe Williams was at fault, but I think the real culprit was D. Thomas being pushed back for a couple of yards as the ball was snapped.

    about the game:
    disappointed in the D-Line both against the run (and seeing like this is a recurrent problem even with all the changing players it's difficult not to think that Coyle is at least part of the problem) and against the pass, where we didn't have a good pass-rush;

    disappointed in Ryan Tannehill, I was expecting a true statement game against a supposedly bad team&D, but it wasn't the case;

    the bad tackling drives me crazy (and again, it seems like something we had to deal for time now);

    we almost didn't run in the first half;

    anyway, a win is a win, so at least we have another week to fix at least some of the problems hopefully...
     
  30. schmolioot

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    Yep, and this is why i refused to let myself get carried away by the hype.

    All you need to do is look to Buffalo to see this laid bare.

    Yes, Rex has his flaws. Yes, he might wear out his welcome.

    But at least you get "the welcome"! Buffalo by far the most impressive team yesterday and the biggest upgrade they made....head coach
     
  31. RoninFin4

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    I agree, but I think the better solution is to put Misi back in the middle and deal with whatever shortcomings, real or perceived, Chris McCain has at SLB. Vigil didn't look quick enough laterally against someone else's number 1's to be effective. Kelvin Sheppard wasn't much better though.
     
  32. Ronnie Bass

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    All of our AFC rivals coaching seems heads and shoulders above ours. It shows in how unprepared this team is at the start of every game.
     
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  33. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I disagree. Williams was 100% at fault. All he had to do was get a yard. The whole was there. All he had to do was just run forward as hard as he could and push for a yard. Yet he stutter stepped and the defensive end was able to get the tackle.
     
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  34. Hiruma78

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    I didn't want to absolve Williams, but I still think that what busted the play was mainly Thomas being pushed back for a couple of yards (if he had just kept his ground, I think we would have converted, even with the way Williams runs), just my (very ignorant, as usual :lol:) opinion

    anyway, I get it that Williams could have done a much better job, as usual, in finding the hole and being decisive, no argument there
     
  35. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I need to see the video of it again, however looking at the second replay it showed me that if he was just decisive, he could have gotten the yard.

    I am not saying Thomas did well on that play. Just enough for Williams to get a yard. Which isn't a good running play, just good enough for that situation.
     
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  36. Section126

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    Uh...he was NOT mediocre in New Orleans. He was VERY good in New Orleans. worth every bit of that 3rd round pick we traded for him.
     
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  37. CaribPhin

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    The entire exercise of charting the times you should go for fourth downs is to show how bad conventional wisdom is at making a decision.
     
  38. VanDolPhan

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    Don't worry about Washington. They solved all their problems. They are cutting their kicker.
     
  39. ckparrothead

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    Ryan Tannehill plays a little bit better, we win that game by multiple touchdowns...which is a very solid win on the road no matter who you're facing. Make or miss league, just like basketball, and Tannehill missed some throws he shouldn't have. His history suggests he'll have a bunch of games where he doesn't.

    If you want to know how we're going to be competitive in some of these future games against teams better than the Redskins, I'd say 1) We'll be home for some of those, 2) Tannehill playing better means we're a better team, 3) For all the complaining that defense allowed only 10 points on the road and forced two turnovers so what are we complaining about again?
     
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  40. Vertical Limit

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    lol the guy missed one field goal.............. he must have been on a very short leash... they signed Hopkins apparently.
     

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