Ndamukong Suh Cut ...Blocked. Was thinking that if that helmet did have a little assistance from Suh's soccer skills the cut blocks he was facing might have been the source of that frustration. Won't get into cut blocks themselves, they should be banned IMO, but it ain't happening this year, if at all. Instead, saw this article and found the words from Jenkins and others somewhat reassuring. Aside from the issues with the linebackers and maybe coaching, it was good to hear, and I'm hoping, that some of this might well be fixable in terms of dealing with things that weren't expected (whether or not they should have been expected). That sort of thing can be more effective for a newly put-together squad who haven't yet developed the sort of reflexive responses and adjustments that come with chemistry and familiarity. Plus, if this was a part of the defensive issue, Suh being Suh you know he's going to be watching for it and won't put up with it. If other teams do try the cut blocking persistently it might also provide for some openings for the defense when the whole line is watching for it. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised to learn that other NFL teams see our DL and know that most can't match up with them one on one, so they'll resort to other tactics to stop us. We might be in for some real raw trench warfare! Our DL has the talent, though, to make it something special. The only other thing we're lacking is a name for that defensive line. I mean Wake, Suh, Mitchell and Vernon, then Mosely and Phillips? If that's not a crew worthy of an appellation I don't know what is!
I hate the cut block in general. Dangerous play IMO. It feels cheap too. You can't handle a guy one on one, or two on one in the trenches, so just dive at his knees straight off the snap... Just seems to go against the beauty of the game IMO. It's cheap. Legal, but cheap IMO. Line up, man up.
If a coach is surprised by the execution of a backside cut block in a zone blocking scheme they should be fired, immediately. Its a staple of that offense, especially one which features Bill Calahan as the O-line coach. He has coached before you know. This is not endearing, its ridiculous.
i don't get why people are always wanna change something after 1 freaking game....earl mitchell was a star of the preseason and now he gets the boot after an average game...let the guy redeem himself
I don't understand why the cut block is legal when all the league does is talk about player safety. Could the defense immediately dive at the OL's legs? That would close up some holes quick.
Drafting Phillips had nothing to do with Earl Mitchell. They drafted him because we lost two DT's after last season and you need fresh bodies to rotate in and out. Mitchell is a fine player.
I don't get it either. It's BS if you ask me. Defensive players should be protected just as much as offensive players. It's not right.
I need to re-watch it, but you're probably right. No one on defense seemed to play well in the first half. Though they were much, much better in the second.
I agree and disagree... Mitchell is a good player. Not saying otherwise. The Mitchell and Suh combo isn't being schemed properly if Mitchell is playing the 3-technique and Suh the 1-technique. Drafting a mammoth like Phillips has more to do w/Suh than Mitchell, but Mitchell is apart of the equation. I forget who it was, but someone showed a stats chart Suh's success, and it was shown, Suh was more disruptive when playing w/CJ Mosely largely because Suh was allowed to move into the 3-tech. Going forward, Suh should always be in the 3 tech. And if Miami isn't willing to do that w/Mitchell on the field, Mitchell shouldn't be on the field so much, IMO.
Can we wait for the defensive line to earn a name with a good performance in a game instead of just naming it based on name recognition? That wasn't a good first showing in our nation's capital in my humble opinion.
Certainly, I agree, and is what I'd achieved that counts, but the point of the article and interview was that the Redskins method of dealing with our DL was a lot of cut blocks. If that's the case then an adjustment and learning curve should see a decent improvement.
They gave up 10 points and rank 3rd. I don't give a rats *** how many yards someone rushes for or how many total yards. Points on the board are what matters. Could they have played better sure. But stop acting like they gave up 30 points. Another point is that this unit hadn't actually played 1 single game as a unit yet AND hadn't played against competition except in practice for 2+ weeks. Geez.
Kind of like they did. Morris' rushing by quarter: 1st - 48 2nd - 34 3rd - 15 4th - 24 1st half = 82 yards 2nd half = 39 yards Humm could there have been an adjustment made?
sorry who gives a damn about PFF, you don't think he looked great in preseason ? he was the reason the falcons probably pulled ryan earlier than they wanted. on a sidenote, can a mod please fix that thread title....114 million man, the biggest free agent addition for any team and on a dolphins board the thread starter can't spell his name right...maybe we should have a sticky up with all the players names and the correct spelling....so many typos regarding our team...it looks embarrasing...its the regular season now, we will have guys from other teams showing up each week...
We need less 'player safety' rules not more rules. "defenseless receiver" = not allowing safety's to do their job. Why are they trying to sissify an inherently violent game?
Yeah, let them punch and kick one another too. Maybe use some joint locks. Ooh and they could allow them to remove their helmets and beat people down with them. There's a difference between a contact sport and a combat sport. Shots to the knee are dirty, cheap and can end a career. They shouldn't be permitted.
Because we've recently learned concussions can be deadly and cause all kinds of problems from loss of speech to committing murder/suicides.
If you've ever seen a patriots lineman work you'd know that they do in fact allow chokeholds. Spoiler And absolutely cut blocks should be outlawed. Sent from my SM-G360T1 using Tapatalk
Yeah cause that's the same thing. So sorry that I appreciate the traditional game before all the safety rules came around.
I think the players know what sport they signed up for. They're getting paid millions of dollars to do this game. It's violent, that's how it's always been. That's how it always should be. There are plenty of other sports out there for the people who can't handle hard hits. When a safety comes over and creams a WR who just caught a ball I love it every time, flag or no flag. Because that's what they've been trained to do. Screw their new rules. If Reshad Jones comes up and pops a receiver after he catches the ball and dislodges it, i'm not gonna chastise Jones for doing his job, even if they throw a flag (with the new rules.) Absurdity at its finest.
Yeah but the reasons for the changes are legitimate. They aren't based on a whim. No research has proven that concussions do A LOT more damage then we ever thought. That's just it, they don't know what they've singed up for. New information is coming out all the time about the effects of concussions. You're simply not following all the issues going on. For example, look into how the players from the era you pine for are clamoring for more help with these issues because they didn't know about them at the time.
If a player is unfortunate enough to receive multiple concussions then that player needs to retire and move on with his life. I'm a big MMA fan... these guys get paid peanuts compared to NFL stars. Galant was right in assuming i'm a fan of combat sports. That doesn't mean I think the NFL should be a combat sport. But it just makes no sense to me to try and put all these safety regulations in what has been purposefully a violent game. That's a big part of the reason people love Football... as far as I knew anyway. Anybody who says they don't like to see a big hit is lying through their teeth, I can tell you that much for certain. Edit: rules I do support: leading with crown of helmet to another player's helmet. Nobody should be launching themselves helmet first at anybody's head. That is indeed excessive.
There was a helmet-to-helmet hit on RT when he ran on a play...no flag, no mention, just ho-hum...next play...
I haven't isolated anyone yet but I've seen the game 3 times now and Mitchell made a big play immediately following the fumble by thill. He drove his blocker 3 yards into the backfield and got a tfl. Maybe he was terrible the rest of the game tho. Redskins had a lot of success running to the side occupied by Mitchell and Vernon. Vernon has always been a meh player imo tho, especially in the run game. He had that big sack season a few years ago, thanks in large part to being in the right place at the right time. I wouldn't mind seeing Fede/Shelby and Phillips in there more in running situations. Fede/shelby, phillips, suh and wake give us the best chance at stopping the rub imo. Wouldn't mind seeing Phillips or Suh at DE along with Wake to go with Phillips and Mosley at DT vs run heavy formations and run heavy teams. Suh N Phillips are both ridiculous athletes for their size. Anybody think this is worth exploring in small samples?
Pretty much Wake, O.V., Sheppard and Mitchell were dreadful against the run. I thought Fede actually significantly improved run stopping over O.V. when he was in there.
Because a game violent enough to cause brain damage for most of its participants is not tenable in our society. The game is becoming more and more dangerous, to the point where its long-term viability is in serious doubt.
An occasional cut block will happen, but running after running play the foreskins Oline cut D-line . D-line couldn't get off blocks because they were being held. Watched the replay a couple times, you can see phins D-linemen trying to spin off blocks and can't cuz the engaged player was being held. Players and coaches won't use that as an excuse after the game. Refs started catching it in the second half. That was one of the dirtiest and cheapest Oline play I have witnessed. Didn't realize it was a Callahan coached Oline until I watched the replay. But all cheap shiz became clear after that.
There's a difference between aggressive, hard hits, and hits that are intended to/or have a very high chance of damaging the opponent. It's the same difference as that between sport and pure violence. Even combat sports have limits because some things are just dirty/damaging, and they have refs to look out for the combatants. That's what this is. Refs/The league, supposedly, looking out for the health of players playing a ball game. The aim is to stop/run over opponents, not maim or seriously hurt them. Shots to the knee are dirty because if they hit there's nothing you can do. Joints are vulnerable and therefore joint shots should be illegal. To me it's just a sign that a player/team can't do their job properly.
The other thing to mention is that players are bigger and faster, meaning the collisions are worse now then they were in the 70's & 80's.
Playing SUH in anything other then what he is known for just does not make sense. As far as the adjustments go, I think people wonder why it took so long to make those.
Zactly, they take a pass rushing DT and turn him into a run stopping DT, which he isn't, let him be him, he can't hold the point of attack against doubles, he never could.
