Except that one side's failure ended up losing the game. See how that works? The offense failed, but was still winning.
I understand that, but what I'm saying is that unless we go back and count up all the almosts you don't know how bad those almosts were. For all we know, QBs average an almost INT a game, for example. I mean every QB throws bad passes in a game, every QB makes a bad decision or two in a game, so it shouldn't be too crazy to think there's an average of 1 almost picks a game. I mean we're giving Cousins a pass on the McCain int, when that was a poorly thrown ball.
I'm not changing anything. They both contributed to the loss. The offense had an opportunity to close out the game, they didn't. Fine. The defense was given the last opportunity to preserve the win, they didn't. Coaching didn't do them any favors with the playcalling in the last drive for the offense, and then the time out. As you guys are so fond of saying, it was a team loss with blame to go around.
I don't think the ball was that poor...it was a great play by McCain. I don't know about you, but I watch quite a few games, and I don't regularly see QBs tossing balls directly into defenders hands routinely. Maybe I'm missing those plays. Again, though, I don't think that sort of play continues for Tannehill. I just wasn't happy with his play this game.
Sigh. Fine. Then a QB has never been responsible for a 4th quarter comeback, because the defense did their job leading up to that point to keep the team within a score. So the defense and offense are responsible not the QB. See how this is stupid? Now, you either have to drop this stupid *** argument or NEVER again talk about 4th quarter wins and QBs, else you'll come across as a hypocrite.
I wasn't happy with his play either, but almost ints happen very frequently as do bad throws and bad decisions. We forget about the ones that don't result in INTs or big plays.
The thing here is, you're trying to make the GB game "the standard" of what Tanne did last year, it isn't, even Philbin and Lazor and the whole front office agree that he has to perform better in those situations, it's simply the truth, you just will not admit that Tanne needs to get better, iyo everyone else must get better, but not Tanne. Tanne played well in the 4th quarter of the GB game, but that was the aberration, if he played more 4th quarters like he did in GB we would have been in the playoffs.
No I'm not trying to make the game the standard. Once again, all I'm trying to do is to point out that your 4th quarter win benchmark is poor logic because a QB can do the things needed to win the game in 4th quarter and the team can still lose. And a side note: had the defense closed out the GB game we in all likelihood would have been in the playoffs.
I don't know where this came from, I don't recall ANYONE saying Tannehill doesn't need to get better. Everyone knows he needs to play better. But he isn't the only one, but he seems to be get99% of all the criticism as if he is the sole reason the team fails or not. Like how he apparently played this terrible game on Sunday yet we still won despite him which is bull. He was a part of the reason the dolphins won, whether those that watched agree with it or not. Landry was a HUGE part of why we won, so was the defensive adjustments in the second half. But Tanny played his part as well and he helped secure that win.
Again, you want to put the GB game in a bubble, and only look at it as evidence, as if the rest of the games did not happen, Ryan Tannehill did not replicate that 4th quarter he had in GB in other games, if he did he would have had a much better 4th quarter rating, and we would have won a game or 2 more which would have gotten us to the playoffs, because we didn't face Aaron Rodgers every week.
No I don't. It. Is. An. Example. Pay attention. I'm not arguing with you right now about whether Tannehill is franchise or not. I'm arguing with you about the invalid notion that 4th quarter wins equal franchise QBs. I have been very clear about this and have said it repeatedly. I am saying your benchmark is invalid because a QB can do everything he can to win in the 4th and the team can still lose. Before you reply to this again, read it through a few more times.
The thing about these guys with their clear agenda is that they offer no solutions. You wanna start Moore??? Then you will see garbage QB play. All crying but no answers. Just keep beating your heads against the wall, maybe you will knock some common sense in there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Only one or two people have said he played a "terrible" game. Most everyone else, myself included, has rated Tannehill around a C rating. What we ARE saying is that Tannehill's level of play in that game is not going to be good enough to win most of our games. Tannehill played average, because he made some great plays, which balanced out some terrible plays. To win, consistently, Tannehill is going to have to play the way many of us believe he can. Like I've said, and I can't believe it's being argued, we were lucky to get a win on Sunday, with the performance we got out of our offense as a whole.
No, we weren't. You were talking about 4th quarters determining how good/bad a QB is. I've been saying for quite some time, the narrative around Tannehill is completely different around here if the defense doesn't fold at the end of several games, and instead holds on to the lead that they are paid to protect.
more than 1 or 2 ppl have said he played terrible, but I digress. I don't hink anyone is gonna disagree that he needs to play better than he did on Sunday if we expect to win consistently in this league.
Yeah, I don't know, I have a couple people in this thread on block, cause they're ridiculous, so I may not have seen some comments around terrible. I just know that the people I've seen seem to be holding around a C rating.
[video]https://vine.co/v/eUhu9vIBpBF[/video] hopefully that works, but that is a video of both NON interceptions. That first pass was terrible, horrible decision making by RT there. but the second one didn't look like a "gimme" like everyone was saying. it looked more like the defender made a great play. and was able to get his hands on the ball. in fact I would say both of COusins "non" interceptions were similar if not more gimmes than that second one.
Considering "WHO" we were playing ..... I'd much prefer our offense running the clock out and preserving the win than try and put it on the defense to stop Aaron Rodgers and that offense.
The second was definitely not as much a gimme as the first, but it wasn't an extraordinary play by the defender, either. The screen pass could easily have been picked, also, was a terrible decision to throw that one, also.
I was? Where. If Tannehill and the offense scores 50 points in the first quarter and none after, he still gets credit. So it's not just about the 4th quarter. And this is not a thread evaluating Tannehill? I'm in the wrong thread then. Is this "The-Official-Who-Else-Other-Than-Tannehill-Sucks-Doesn-t-Suck-Thread" thread?
It may not have been brought up by you, but they brought 4th quarter rating, which then transitioned to talking about specific games, like GB.
So I wasn't talking about 4th quarters then Ryan Tannehill could be the worst 4th quarter back in history for all I care, if he's scoring 30 in the first 3.
Get your mind out of the gutter bro. It's just two dudes corn-holing each other. Sent from my SM-G360T1 using Tapatalk
LOL You joined in on it. I was trying to say that I wasn't trying to talk about that, as I don't think it's necessarily the black mark against Tannehill that some others do.
Does anybody know if there is a limit to the number of people you can put on your ignore list? Mine is getting up there!
Does Tannehill have the privelage of playing with a dominating defense and running game like Fiedler did?
