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Some thoughts on Philbin and this Debacle

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Bumrush, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    I'll preface this by saying I've always been a supporter of Ross, but no longer. As long as Philbin is coach I will no longer support the team, spend money on the team or even spend my Sunday's watching the team.

    Philbin has been an utter failure, and his failure may also cost us Ryan Tannehill. Remember last year when Philbin grew a pair of balls and threatened Ryan with a benching? He then responded with an all-pro level of play that lasted for a quarter of the season. This leads me to conclude that Philbin continues to have a "one size fits all" philosophy to player development and how he coaches the team. One would think that if applying pressure to demand excellence worked, that it would continue to be used as a motivational method to keep the player performing. Philbin doesn't seem capable of adapting his personality to the team around him, and by proxy, the team has taken on this lazy, authoritarian, passing the buck mentality. An utter failure of people management and roster development.

    Look around the NFL - The Bills smack us around and then get stomped by the mediocre Giants at home. The Jets stomp us, but the previous week were stomped by the inept and 1-3 Eagles. The Jags go on the road against Indy with no Andrew Luck and can't win but are able to beat the snot out of us in Jacksonville.

    This leads to point 2 - We are significantly WORSE than advertised. The teams that have beaten us are MEDIOCRE at best, and not only have we been smacked in the mouth by them, but we have made their mediocre QB's look elite and their DL's look generational.

    Philbin must be fired. If he is not, this is going to become historically bad. HISTORICALLY. When we have to go on the road to face a real contendor like NE, or a healthy Andrew Luck in Miami, or have to scheme against Chip Kelly or deal with Rivers in San Diego, it is going to make these last 2 weeks look tame in comparison.

    Because of this I will no longer support Mr Ross, the Miami Dolphins or anything related to the team, including my time spent here or anywhere else that focuses on the Miami Dolphins. A complete farce of a franchise, a waste of time and an incompetent ownership group from top to bottom.
     
  2. jcs92593

    jcs92593 Banned

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    Best post of the week. Spot on!

    Ross needs to get a clue.
     
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  3. yoge

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    You can't put all the blame on the coach. It is the players who have to execute plays. Now before someone comes on here and says Philbin cant motivate his players, that is BS. You are judging the coach by his personality. There are plenty of 'nice guy' coaches in the NFL just like Philbin. Grown men(players) shouldn't need to be motivated by another grown man to play right.
     
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  4. jcs92593

    jcs92593 Banned

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    I am with you dude. I have been a fan for over 40 years. But this is too much to bear. Until Ross grows a spine and fires Philbin, I am done.

    I will be watching the Jags, at least they are interesting.

    No more Dolphins till either Ross or Philbin is GONE.
     
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  5. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    They look very motivated.. Motivated to cash a check and show up on Sunday.

    You are the last defender of Philbin on the planet, outside of maybe Ross.
     
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  6. jcs92593

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    Mrs Philbin???? Is that you??
     
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  7. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    I think I know what Yoge looks like.. She is on the left.

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    While I would certainly have preferred to be wrong about Ross and Philbin. I have been stating for quite some time that Ross is clueless as an NFL owner and Philbin isn't qualified to be an NFL head coach.

    The fact Ross has been the majority owner for over six years and Philbin has been the HC for three plus years and this team is playing the worst football in all those years, clearly shows how inept this organization is from top to bottom.

    Ross took over a team which had won 11 games the year before he became majority of the organization and we haven't seen a winning season since. They went from being the AFC East Champions in 2008 to the worst team in the division seven years later.

    We have a different HC than we had in 2008. We have a different GM than we had in 2008. We have a different head of football operations than we had in 2008. So the one person who has been the constant and most responsible for the decline over the past seven years as this team slowly creeps to the bottom of the barrel of NFL franchises is Ross.

    As as long as he remains the majority owner of this team, this organization doesn't have a chance to be a success on the playing field, IMO.
     
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  9. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Philbin needs to use that pitch fork to jab some of these players in the @ss! Or Ross needs to grab it and run Philbin out of town with it...
     
  10. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Philbin needs to stab himself with it.
     
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  11. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Yes, we can put the blame on a head coach who is 24-28 in three plus years as the teams head coach. Especially when the team is worse today than the day he took over as the head coach of this team.

    There is a reason numerous head coaches are replaced every year, while no team has ever fired all their players. Because coaches are hired to motivate their players and to win games. As the saying goes, NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG for those coaches who can't get the job done.

    While I agree Philbin doesn't deserve all the blame. We have seen enough of his coaching methods over the past three plus years to realize he isn't qualified to be a head coach in the NFL.
     
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  12. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Well, you need to give Philbin credit, he was an OL guru and look how amazing that unit is blocking.
     
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  13. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    The entire thing is dysfunctional.
     
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  14. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Sep-POKE-ku?

    HAY-ri kiri?

    ;^J
     
  15. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Cmon man. All he said is you can't put ALL the blame on the coach. That's about as elementary as it gets.
     
  16. Man-U

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    The irony of Philbin's greatest act of "threatening Tannehill" is that it was generated by the media, and Philbin didn't have that purpose in mind. As a matter of fact, he never has a purpose in mind, aimlessly coasting from one event to another.
     
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    What bothers me the most isn't the team playing poorly, we've been through a lot of that in the last 15 years or so. It's watching the team implode and give up because they lost belief in their leaders and the path chosen- I've never seen this on the Dolphins, not to this extent, not even close. It's in the air, it's palpable and it's self evident. There is no heart beat and the patient is dead on arrival, that's why Philbin has to go, the coordinators as well. I'd rather keep failing while removing the rotting meat from the room instead of keeping with the same rotted coaching staff and atmosphere- the whole team is corrupted by it. The last time I saw an implosion this bad was watching Ray Lucas live at JRS against the Bills execute and bury his career with an all time inept performance. But at least it was over quickly. Philbin needs to be taken out behind the shed like Old Yeller and put out of his misery- and our misery- and the players' misery- as soon as possible. It is so simple, the dude has to go. He's in way.way over his head, never should have been a head coach in the first place.
     
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  18. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Easy to tell who's all talk and zero film study.
     
  19. djphinfan

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    their all to blame for the results, but when you know your staff isnt smart enough to compete schematically or inspire at this level, the rest is moot..
     
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  20. jw3102

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    So that's what Cam Cameron meant when he said, "if your going to fail, fail forward". I'm not sure if he was referring to rotting meat at the time, but now at least there is some meaning to that ridiculous statement he made.
     
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  21. Xeticus

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    I think the team is playing bad but isn't actually bad. There are a lot of talented players on this team. The coaches are not using them well and not motivating them at all. Do you think Rex Ryan or Belichek could win with this team? I do. They are good coaches. Philbin was under qualified for this job and it shows. He has never been a head coach at any level, never had to put together a staff like this and didn't even call the plays in Green Bay. Philbin and his staff need to go and the sooner the better.
     
  22. DevilFin13

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    The even more depressing thing is that when they fire Philbin, we're still going to have massive, gaping holes in the roster that even Belichick probably wouldn't be able to cheat his way around.
     
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  23. firedan

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    This team is what is and it starts at the top.
    If Ross did sell the team I wouldn't lose any sleep.
     
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