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Merged x3: Philbin Fired; Campbell New HC

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by GARDENHEAD, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wonder if this is based on Campbell's input.
     
  2. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    It might not be a funeral but it costs nothing to show a bit of class and avoid throwing out meaningless insults.
     
  3. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    The people making fun of Philbin are what's wrong with the world today. You all should hope to be the kind of man he was. Just because he was bad at head coaching doesn't mean he should be disrespected like some of you have.

    Keep the game and a moral character separate. Crap coach, great man to want to be.
     
  4. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Not meaningless- commenting on the fans' unconditional support when a good number of them were calling for his head was, at best, insincere and stupid. As to your comments and judgments, they're neither here nor there.
     
  5. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Sorry I don't have that much class. *Air kicks Philbin's *** out the door.* You are the weakest link Goodbye!
     
  6. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Would you all get off your moral high horse? No one is attacking Philbin as a person. People are poking fun at his lousy coaching, which we have ALL done for years. Stop pretending that the fans who are happy that the team finally got rid of a bad coach, are stringing him and his family up.
     
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  7. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    At best? Hardly. At best they're a man who just got fired trying to speak exceedingly well of everyone and say not a bad word towards anyone. At best it's kindness in the face of personal trial.

    Using a comment like that, made in that setting, as some sort of demonstration of mental acuity, is not only silly and wrong, it's also classless.
     
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  8. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    No, actually. For two reasons. 1 - There's a difference between criticising a man's ability to coach and just insulting him or his intellect. 2 - The situation is entirely different, we all got what we wanted, a new HC, he just lost his job. He's trying to be gracious about it. Apparently it's too much for some Miami fans to return the favour.
     
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  9. Samphin

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    First off, it is an internet message board. Expecting anything above halfway decent grammar and occasionally getting words spelled correctly, is folly. Second off, no one is outright insulting Philbin. People are reacting to the news that a bad coach of a bad team got fired. He was bad at his job and got punished for it. People tend to react when stuff like this happens. No one is doing anything wrong. Stop it.
     
  10. vizi0n

    vizi0n Boom.. Club Member

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    The expectation is that embattled defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle will head out the door with former #Dolphins coach Joe Philbin

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  11. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Yeah, Joe Philbin is a classy, genuine, good man. I am glad he's gone and that Campbell is taking over, but I'm not going to trash Joe. He gave it his all and it didn't work out. I wish him the best and I hope he finds success somewhere else.
     
  12. jim1

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    This would seem logical and for the best. Coyle's stubbornness, particularly at insisting on a two gap defense when it doesn't compliment or sit well with the DL, is troubling. Also, the players apparently can't stand him. I never was a fan of Jim Schwartz as a head coach, but as a def coordinator he makes sense.
     
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  13. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    So you're telling me to stop telling people to stop insulting Philbin?
     
  14. jeremy2020

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    Yay, now "The Brain Trust" gets to pick a new Philbin in the offseason.
     
  15. I'm looking forward to seeing how Campbell handles the job in the interim. Who knows? He might show us something..
     
  16. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    While I won't talk about Philbins personal character, he was a donkey as a head coach. He should have been let go after 2013 and Bullygate. DeVante Parker even tweeted in support of the firing (plausible deniability). I'm not sure what's in the future, but at least there's the hope of an actual game plan and players being prepared.
     
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  17. Finster

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    A couple of things, just to keep this in total perspective, first off, if your going to take a high profile public job then ridicule goes with the territory, especially if you fail, and the harder you fail, the harder the ridicule will be, you become the focal point for the fans frustrations, is it fair? not really, but life isn't fair, and he knew the risk he was taking when he took the job.

    Secondly, do you actually know the man? if not then how can you say he was a man that we all should like to be?

    I thought he was a "holier than thou" type, I thought that he was less than honest, I thought he put his own agenda above that of the team, in short, a person I would not want to be like.

    He is very polite, which is an admirable trait, but outside of that, I'm not sure we really know much about the man he is, but he was a horrible HC.
     
  18. Tin Indian

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    Are you referring to the "YES" tweet a while ago?
     
  19. jw3102

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    I have been one of Philbin's biggest critics on here for over a year. In fact I never understood his hiring from the beginning.
    I have no doubt that he is a good man and a nice guy. I just never thought he should be a head coach in the NFL. I wish him nothing but the best as he leaves Miami and hopefully he will find a job more suited to his skills.

    I know nothing about Campbell other than he has been the TE coach for the Dolphins for a few years and was a player in the NFL for several years. While a change was needed because the players were not responding to Philbin. Whether Campbell can turn this team around is still a huge question. Because while coaching has certainly been an issue, the lack of talent at LB, OL, and in the secondary, along with substandard play on the defensive line may be an issue that no HC can deal with over the next 12 games.

    I just hope Campbell is able to bring more energy to the head coaching position and that the team will respond more positively toward him than they did to Philbin. While I don't see this as more than a 5-6 win team this season after the start they have had. If Campbell is able to get this team to play at a higher level over the remainder of the season, it will at least give us hope for the future.
     
  20. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    As if Philbin is going to read this thread and get his feelings hurt.

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  21. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Yeah, people take message forums a bit too seriously sometimes.
     
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  22. mlb1399

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    Philbin is a classy guy, just not a good HC. As for his comments, he's obviously not delusional about people wanting him to be fired. He was ending his tenure with class.

    While it's great to be free of bad coaches, this organization isn't going anywhere unless they can figure out how to draft and put together a roster. This firing removes one of our problems, not all of them.
     
  23. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I'm not going to go beating up on Philbin personally, not like some have done around here. Philbin is a good man, he is a class act, but he just didn't have what it took to be a god head coach.

    I equate Philbin to Norv Turner. Great OC but just didn't have what it took to inspire, plan and motivate as a head coach. There are A LOT of coaches out there, past and present that were great coordinators but didn't have what it took to be head coaches.

    Doesn't take away from them though as human beings.
     
  24. Samphin

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    If you want to simplify the argument down worse than Coyle's defense, then sure.

    But something tells me you are savvy enough to know that the message is more fundamental than that.

    It is an internet message board that is solely here for Miami Dolphins fans to react to news and the goings on, of the aforementioned team. Trying to police everyone's behavior (which isn't even wrong, to begin with) is a lesson in futility.

    The guy got fired. People are going to talk about it in an unfiltered (to a degree) way. Wagging your electronic finger in your fellow fan's faces about how they should react to the news seems silly to me.

    Just relax, crack open a breakfast beer and enjoy that the stupid, ugly, dumb, idiotic head coach has been fired (see what I did there? See? Yeah, you see).
     
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  25. Kud_II

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    Devante Parker reaction to Philbin being fired. Lmao

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  26. Samphin

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    Are we sure that that is in reaction to Philbin being fired? I assume it is, but still. No true context, yet.
     
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  27. Vertical Limit

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    Devante, Phillips and Lippett should all be excited. They should get the playing time they deserve soon. I hope Devante starts soon
     
  28. DOLPHAN1

    DOLPHAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

    no you are calling him delusional for thanking the fans for supporting him during his tenure. regardless of weather that is factual or not he was trying to be classy in his exit.
     
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  29. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    The most peculiar part of it all is that no one really slammed Philbin in this thread- I commented on his remark as to the fans's "unconditional support" as delusional- which it was, or perhaps just simply insincere and stupid- Marie Antoinette had less people calling for her head. It's also a reference to the Miami Herald article from yesterday.

    That doesn't take away from Philbin being by all accounts a good guy- as a football coach he was terrible, I'm thrilled that he's gone, and anyone insisting that we treat this as a funeral doesn't concern me.
     
  30. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Thanking the fans is one thing, referring to their unconditional support is just ridiculous. To flesh it out further, the word "delusional" that you seem to have a problem with was a reference to the Miami Herald article from yesterday. If it pleases you, "unconditional support" is an unwarranted and useless platitude, because it is so far from the truth. I don;t need to be reminded that Philbin was trying to be nice on the way out, that was self evident. But referring to a falsehood, unnecessarily, was not good in my book. You're free to have your own opinion, and I'll have mine.
     
  31. Vertical Limit

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    philbin made a mistake, as he always does. he meant to say he wants to thank his fan Piston Honda for his unconditional support.
     
  32. vizi0n

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    Yes

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  33. Kud_II

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    I'd like to think so he kind of just randomly said it. If I wasn't being utilized i'd be happy too. :D
     
  34. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    lmmfao
     
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  35. invid

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    Exemplary of a rift between the players and Philbin if the firing is what he is "yessing" to.
     
  36. jw3102

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    I am not a tweeter user, but I do notice that this tweet occured at 6:10 am this morning. I doubt that Ross had already met with Philbin and fired him that early in the morning. So I doubt seriously that this tweet was a response by Parker to the firing of Philbin.
    There are hundreds of reason he could have tweeted this response and it appears someone is just trying to create an issue between Parker and the remaining coaching staff hired by Philbin.
     
  37. Phins_Fan_87

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    Yippie!
     
  38. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    It could have very well been leaked to the players that Philbin was headed out the door. Who knows.
     
  39. LiferYank

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    6:10 am....
     
  40. jdallen1222

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    Like soo many running backs, or Fitzpatricks...
     

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