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There's a lot of Passion in the locker room

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Piston Honda, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    You reserve the right , but if the team is playing well below their capabilities, then their underperforming leader has to go first. I never witnessed any professional sport- where the team that is not playing up to their potential- keeps their manager or coach and gets rid of talented players instead. Philbin tried , and tried again , and tried yet again..with the same outcome over and over and over..He failed at his job, so getting fired was extremely justified and necessary. The Dolphins dont have probowlers up and down their roster but with the talent they do have ,a lucky 1-3 was unacceptable. Its not like he didnt get a fair opportunity to right the ship. He got many opportunities and failed.

    The ONLY thing I`m swearing to being right at is he needed to go.
     
  2. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    If that's the case then what do we disagree on? What you just said has been by point basically from the beginning. I've said over and over I don't like Philbin, never have, should never have hired him, etc.

    I have zero issues with him being fired. What I have an issue with is Philbin and his staff getting all the blame while Hickey, the players, get a pass.
     
  3. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    Well, for one, you stated that " firing Philbin at this point does nothing." Totally disagreed with that. Again, he needed to go and the sooner the better as we wasted enough time with him. And now that that happened, lets see what we got.
     
  4. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I hope Campbell can turn it around. But being realistic I think we got what we got.

    When I talk about watching tape it's not a slight at you or anyone else. It's me saying that IMO we have talent issues that coaching can't really overcome.
     
  5. jcliving

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    My question to you is what you see within the tape. Do you see hesitation? Do you see technique issues? Do you see scheme issues? Remember that it is difficult to tell the difference between hesitation due to poor preparation and being overpowered. Read the long post from @KeyFin to see a detailed description of why.
     
  6. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    It's a bit of everything. The scheme is fine IF the DL is dominating the LOS. But that hasn't happened. And IMHO there's not a whole lot Coyle can do to fix it, at least not a whole lot that opposing offenses can't adjust to. He can blitz more to stop the run bit his CBs aren't any good and he probably doesn't trust them. He can keep his safeties back but his front 7 isn't stopping the run and his LBs don't seem capable of handling underneath routes without help.

    Moving on to Lazor. He can run the ball more. But he has no FB, lead blocker or blocking TE, his OL is average at best. It's very much an uphill struggle. Not only does the OL struggle in run blocking they struggle in pass pro too. Short passes are about the only thing he can call without expecting a break down in blocking. Defenses know this and sit on those short throws. Finally Miami decided to just say eff it and throw downfield, the Jets were caught off guard and gae up big plays and penalties. Then they adjusted. Point being if you can't open run lanes or keep a clean pocket you're basically relying in elite QB play to move the ball vs good defenses, RT is far from elite.

    I've asked several times here what can the coordinators do given their personell limitations. I've yet to get an answer.
     
  7. jcliving

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    The best aspect of each starter on the defensive line is quickness and hustle. Coyle actually has them reading and reacting on at least 40 percent of the plays. That is a horrific misuse of talent. Tell them to attack and penetrate to get more out of them. Coyle called a slant stunt with four down linemen when the offense has six on the line. That is crazy. Predictably there is a hole that two Mack trucks could run through. I do not discount that there may be talent gaps but the one consistent is that it is nearly impossible for Coyle to misuse his talent worse than he currently is using them. His inflexibility is killing us.

    If Lazor committed to the run in an unpredictable sequence, the pass protection would be better. When your line struggles to pass protect, the worst thing you an do is abandon the run. I am curious to see if Campbell's challenge to compete leads to better performance. I will have to wait no see.
     
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  8. djphinfan

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    good response, so, lets say we look like a different team out there with cambell, then we'll know if the team was playing with the right intensity to play a football game.
     
  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    not playing well=poorly motivated...not playing well= poor leadership...not playing well=not unified....not playing well = not prepared...
     
  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    your making football all abut x's and o's..if your not as talented you get get men to overachieve, if you have a lot of talent you can get men to play great, just by leading them correctly, practicing correctly, and getting them to play for more than themselves, getting them to play with the proper intensity, focus, for 60 mins that can all come from 1 head coach.
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I can 2nd your notion about coyles scheme, he was slanting the whole line at times, these guys were running to spots instead of just beating their men and getting upfield..it was a joke what they were doing in jacksonville, guys werent even watching the ball.
     

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