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Does this performance basically confirm that Philbin was worst coach in the league?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by LBsFinest, Oct 18, 2015.

  1. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    shhhh. me and others have pointed out the oline as the cause of the nosedive on offense but certain people dont grasp it. dont confuse them with statistics
     
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  2. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    hey what did you see from turner today. i saw him on his *** a couple of plays but i also saw him seal off soime really nice blocks. more good than bad by a 3-1 ratio. it seemed to me he can block decently overall but when he gets beat he gets beat bad. i didnt focus on him the whole day so i'm jot sure if what i saw was an aberration or not
     
  3. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Joe your avatar has never looked so good
     
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  4. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    And he drew two holding penalties. Amazing game.
     
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  5. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    At one point against the jets grimes, wake, and Albert were all hurt and/or out. There's a reason we dedicate so much cap space to those guys. All 3 of them were back to their normal selves today.
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    inching to 100k posts
    sends a bit of a message
     
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  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    there was noticable improved execution and time mgt on that drive...it was well done except the last play..
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    damn it Pate, why the hell do you have to go and say that.......pissasssss.
     
  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    billy
     
  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    your going to say all that and not acknowledge the coaching that went into the past two weeks by Campbell...wow.

    yeah I think even without those guys this team would of steamrolled the titans because of what that guy brought to the table.
     
  11. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    if philbin was here that 97 yard drive to ice the game would have never happened, philbin would have played it safe and made room to bring out the punter. instead campbell went for the ****ing throat and it showed.i like the guy a lot i just hope that all this stuff carries over and he is THE guy for the dolphins for a long time.

    edit: also the drive before half was really cool as well, instead of just sitting on the lead campbell once again was thinking of scoring points. sucks tannehill and cameron(who has been very good for us) had that miscommunication leading to that pick.
     
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  12. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    I don*t think Philbin was the worst coach in the NFL, not by a long shot.

    A bad coach leaves the roster in a dumpster fire and many years of rebuilding after him. Coaches like Rich Kotite for example.

    Philbin did a good job of developing the playing staff and a reasonable job of developing schemes. He generally was good at making second half adjustments. I don*t think there's anything fundamentally wrong with either Lazor's scheme or Coyle's scheme. What he did not do well was motivate players consistently, implement the schemes into effective gameplans or coach to win (as opposed to coaching to not lose).
     
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  13. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    so we come away with a convincing win on the road and the "i get more excited if we win against a good team" post shows up...this win was as much a win on emotion as it was on talent

    or did

    Reshad Jones housed it on Emotion ?
    Did Grimes turned into rubber ball and made that unbelievable jump to pick that pass (seriously, that guy is made out of rubber, he does things athletically that are unheard of, there was one play where he made the tackle and rolled backwards and jumped right up...unreal that guy)
    did wake got 4 sacks and 2 fumbles on emotion ?
     
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  14. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    You're kidding right?
     
  15. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Dude, look at our schedule. We lost to two other teams in our division, one of which is only 3-3 now, and the Jacksonville freaking Jaguars, who have one win. We beat the Titans, a team that also has one win.
    Now, we did beat them SOUNDLY, and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that our defensive line was playing with a buttload of emotion. They hurt Mariota early, which affected his throwing motion and negated his mobility, and caused the turnovers. I was more impressed with how we were willing to go for the throat on offense. It's been a while since we did that. But yes, being realistic, I am going to wait until I see us beat a good team before I declare that Philbin was the cause of all our problems.
    Sorry if you have an issue with that. I won't be changing my mind about it.
     
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  16. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Bwahahahahahahaa.......
     
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  17. bakedmatt

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    It confirms that Cameron Wake is an animal.
     
  18. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I think Campbell stays if the team finishes 7-5 or better under him and continues to play with the fire they showed in that game.
     
  19. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    How great would it be if we did get lucky with Campbell, the law of averages has to eventually catch up, lol.
     
  20. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    Pump the breaks.
     
  21. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Well since I'm in idle mode, pumping the brakes would just be to check and see if they're working, lol, I get your point but I'm not saying he is the guy, just saying it would be great if it turned out that he is the guy.
     
  22. Dolphin Dundee

    Dolphin Dundee Well-Known Member

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    Fun Fact: Looking back to 1966 out of all the first year coaches we have had over the years Philbins first game was the worst loss of all of them losing 30-10.
     
  23. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, that was intended for everyone.
     
  24. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    I'm not going that far and as pleased as I am about the results yesterday I dont really feel the need to kick Joe Philbin around. He's gone, time to keep moving forward.
     
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  25. cbrad

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    Wow.. I go away for 2 weeks to Japan and Philbin is fired :yes:.. I'll remember this the next time I think we have such a terrible coach. Can't understand how a rare few still don't see how bad Philbin was. And yes he deserves to be kicked around. He's partly responsible for the misery of many Dolphin fans over the past few years.

    Anyway, good to see the Dolphins playing motivated. Motivation and/or believing in a team leader is extremely important for team success and that game was a great example of that. But we'll still have to wait and see how this team plays once adversity hits to see how good Campbell really is. Either way, I do like the common sense moves he made in the game (e.g. sticking to the run game). Maybe we do turn this season around..
     
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  26. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Who has a worst coach in the NFL than Philbin? List them because I can't even think of one.
     
  27. heylookatme

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    Jim Caldwell might be the only guy who is close.
     
  28. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I thought he made a couple mistakes with clock management yesterday. Calling the time out right before the 1st quarter was going to end was beyond dumb. He could have just let the clock run and had a "free" think about it.
     
  29. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    No worries, and I agree.
     
  30. ckparrothead

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    I really don't recall seeing him put "on his ***" so to speak on any play. What I saw was a guy that was able to do his job in pass pro for the most part through active hands and feet, except that he lacks a stout anchor and can get walked backward to the point where a stationary QB setting up in the pocket may see a flash in his vision and feel the need to reset. Turner doesn't have all that thick a frame and his experience at tackle has made him play a little high, so anchor will always be an issue to some extent.

    But on run plays, I saw an asset. You need people like him on the field because he can run, he's very active, and he loves to interfere with everyone. He's not one of those lumbering balls that locks onto a target out in space when he gets on the move, predictably overshoots his target, then ends up not having done a damn thing except be an extra large moving traffic cone. That's not Billy Turner. There are times he runs with the agility of a tailback and he has what they call a "nasty" mentality which means he has an all-of-the-above mentality when it comes to interfering with what defenders are trying to do.

    He had key blocks on both touchdown runs. He blocked one side of the lane that Lamar Miller cut back into for his touchdown. On Landry's touchdown, Turner got up the field I believe near the hash marks and interfered with two pursuing defenders as they tried to cross the field and squeeze down on Landry's angle. Had he not done that, Landry would have seen contact a lot earlier on the play, and it's not difficult to imagine the contact coming more cleanly or in such a way that Landry doesn't have the opportunity to break through it like he did.
     
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  31. jazz

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    I'm not sure I would call Philbin the worst coach of the league...I think Cam Cam was worse, but at least our new coach has a ****ing pulse.
     
  32. LBsFinest

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    Well if it wasn't clear a couple weeks ago, it certainly is now.
     
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  33. resnor

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    This is the team we all thought we'd see to start the season.
     
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  34. cbrad

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    Yeah, fantastic first half. Best I remember. If this team plays smart like this and with this kind of intensity, then win/lose/draw we have our new HC. I think the real test is how we play against the Pats next week.
     
  35. Dolphin Dundee

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    I wanna dress up as Philbin for halloween..I bet i'll scare the hell out of some Dolphins fans..Oh noooo he's back!.
     
  36. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Joe who?
     
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  37. daphins

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    Not so sure I agree. He's obviously a players coach and I REALLY like the intensity he brings out in our guys. They leave it all on the field for him, and he goes for the throat.

    That said it doesn't mean he's long-term HC material. There's a lot of X's and O's, coach management, player development, etc. that we have no idea about. MANY teams see short-term bumps when they replace coaches with fiery leaders but it eventually falls off. Remember the inspired play under Sparano? Rex Ryan? Etc. players respond to coaches as long as they're winning. They only respond if they sustain winning. At this point it's emotions, not game planning and a masterful system. He has half of the ingredients, but I'm not sure about the other half. I want to see an exhaustive search after this season for the best coach long-term. If it's our current regime, that's awesome. If not so be it.


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  38. cbrad

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    We've already seen some game planning. The reason I said the real test is how we play against the Pats next week is precisely so we see how his team plays against a master in the X's and O's. The other stuff I'm less worried about. If you can prepare a good game plan against your opponent, be capable of making smart calls during the game, and keep players motivated and believing in the system, that's for me 9/10ths of the whole thing and I'd rather have someone who's proven that with OUR players than someone else.

    Anyway, we'll see what happens in the next game(s).
     
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  39. Dolphin Dundee

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    These last two games were our "pre season". The truth be told after the next three games..But at least we now have hope!
     
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  40. resnor

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    Check out Darkwa crushing for the Giants right now. Why'd we let him go?
     

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