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Landry and Stills at end of game

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by wpgfishfan, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Honestly I'm less concerned about Landry wanting to keep trying till the final whistle than I was at some of Tannehill's body language last night. Chewing gum and smirking on the sidelines after an interception and also the safety.
     
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  2. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Sorry, but most of what your saying is just untrue, I've said plenty of positive things, I'm not being negative, just trying to get a good grasp on where we are as a team, and I'm not the one riling feathers, YOU are the one that feels like you have to call other fans out because they aren't fans like you, it was YOUR comment I responded to.

    So put a cork in it, be civil and I'll be civil.
     
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  3. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Put a cork in it? Be civil? That makes perfect sense. I don't like to ruffle feathers. I just read one negative post after the next. I think I wrote when did you have a positive thing to say about this team without the but... Funny, I never have to defend myself and try to have to search and find positive things I've said. But it seems you know that you have to.. By many other posters. Go enjoy the way you support this team. And so will I.. Put a cork in it and be civil... Lol


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  4. finfansince72

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    Landry is not a problem on this team.
     
  5. Metsphins

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    I've never thought of it like that but I think you're on to something here. Scary thought. I miss the Marino days haha How do you add a signature to your posts? I uploaded a pic in my signature and it doesn't appear to be showing up and now I cant find "edit signature" anywhere in the profile. Anybody know?
     
  6. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Right. I guess we'll just ignore all the times the cameras catch him on the sidelines clapping and going up and encouraging his teammates. I guess we'll ignore all the comments from his teammates about how hard he works and how much he commands the huddle and leads his unit.

    Instead we'll take isolated incidents where for a fleeting second there was an illusion that he doesn't care or has no passion.

    Let's stop acting like we know what kind of leader or how much passion Tannehill has based on what we see for a second on tv. 3 weeks ago he was a dick for showing fire on the practice field. Today he's a leaderless robot who doesn't care.

    Keep swinging guys, maybe you'll make contact one day.
     
  7. bakedmatt

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    lol.

    Goodbye!
     
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  8. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    Some players are leaders, some aren't. If you can't see the difference, so be it. Clapping and encouraging? Really? That's how you define a leader?
     
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  9. Rocky Raccoon

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    Encouraging your teammates is a big part of being a leader, so, yes.
     
  10. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    I see ball boys doing that. There's MUCH more to it and RT is seriously lacking which is unfortunate.
     
  11. Rocky Raccoon

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    I didn't say there wasn't more to it, but we don't see everything that happens on the sidelines. Or on the field. Or in the locker room. The cameras aren't always on these guys. You're judging his leadership abilities based on random isolated camera shots.
     
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  12. Buckeyetroop

    Buckeyetroop Active Member

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    Do you actually watch Brady or remember Marino? Do you see the difference? Watching him smiling on the sideline after the safety and the pick turned my stomach.
     
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  13. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Well then that would pretty much make everyone a leader, and Philbin did that to no end.
     
  14. Rocky Raccoon

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    I don't understand that though. Who cares? It doesn't mean he doesn't care or he wasn't pissed. Again, it was an isolated incident that doesn't tell any kind of story in reality.
     
  15. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    It's not an isolated incident, it's Tanne, he's the same every game, just there.
     
  16. Love Unlimited

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    To be a leader you have to play well enough to be looked up to by your teammates. Only then can your leadership efforts have credibility.

    You could take one guy who's as much "rah rah" as you could imagine, and if he's only an average player at his position, the effect of his leadership on his teammates is going to pale in comparison to that of the guy who's exceptionally good but may make an effort to lead them much less frequently.

    The consummate leaders are the Ray Lewises and Drew Breeses, the guys who not only play extremely well, but also have exceptional leadership ability. If a player on the other hand is only average at his position, his efforts at leadership are likely to lack credibility and ring hollow. The player has to become good before he can lead.
     
  17. djphinfan

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    anyone watch the aftermath of tannehills last sack..he got thrown down, his lineman looked at him on the ground, turned and walked away...im sure they were disgusted as to what was going on in the game, but this needs to be addressed..
     
  18. yogi superstar

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    FYI, when those guys thank your post, it was BAD.

    Sorry.

    The list grows.
     
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  19. Chuck Wilson

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    I'm honestly going to have to side with the opinion that Tannehill doesn't show enough passion and emotion. I can't recall one time him getting upset with the lack of protection his offense lineman provide. I don't think he commands the respect of his team that a franchise QB does.

    I get it, not everyone is going to be the fiery leader that Tom Brady is. Lets take a guy like Aaron Rodgers. I wouldn't classify him as fiery, but he gets visibly upset when he throws a pick or his offensive line fails him. I've YET to see Tannehill show emotion after a negative play, or call his teammates out when they need to be called out.

    I'm not saying Tannehill is the biggest issue on this team at all, but I've lost faith in him. I don't think he's the answer and that's just me being honest. He's wildly inconsistent. While he flashes brilliance at times, it's very seldom that you know what you're getting from the guy play to play let alone game to game. And he has TERRIBLE command of the pocket. The subtle moves to avoid pressure and buy time. He lacks it big time
     
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  20. Rock Sexton

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    The difference is MASSIVE. I mean Marino makes Tanny look like he's got Asperger Syndrome.

    I miss those days though. If Fox were his right tackle, he'd be up in his face letting him know that kind of play is unacceptable. He's be putting guys in their place and demanding they raise their level of play. He wouldn't just trot off nonchalantly to the sideline after yet another failed drive vs. the division's best.
     
  21. finsfandan

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    So true. Anybody remember when Brady was banging his fist on the ground after failing to make a play in the end zone against us? The director replayed the scene and the commentators noted what intensity he brings to the game. I don't see that from Tannehill. Marino had it.

    Of course not every QB has the same personality. Brady isn't always intense. Sometimes he just wants a high five on the sideline. But when he's on the field or in the zone, the guy turns into another person. I can't imagine him shrugging off a safety that was clearly his fault the way Tannehill did. He'd make up for it with a vengeance like he's doing with the entire NFL.

    I think Campbell has the right idea. He wants the players to feel sick about the loss, including Tannehill. He's too nonchalant, he seems disconnected. It's like he doesn't realize he should be embarrassed after being annihilated on national television.


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  22. resnor

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    How exactly was the safety his fault? You guys stretch this stuff so badly.
     
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  23. Chuck Wilson

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    You're missing the bigger picture. The guy doesn't have the fire IMO. I'm tired of HOPING he's the answer at QB for us...
     
  24. Finster

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    Yoga trolls, what's the world coming to???

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    NAMASTAY AWAY!
     
  25. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    It's pretty easy, everyone except him was ready, no guessing needed.
     
  26. LI phinfan

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    Campbell said in his press conference that Pouncey snapped the ball on the wrong snap count. No guessing needed when we have facts to use.... Let's just assume it's Tannehill's fault lol. And the hits just keep on coming!


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  27. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    That's DC covering for his QB, am I supposed to believe DC or my lying eyes? Everyone was in sync but Tanne, EVERYONE, if Pouncey had snapped it too early then multiple players would have been caught off guard, that's just common sense.

    Simms pointed that out, and he's a QB, I think I'll take his word and my eyes over whatever spin comes out of Dolphinland.
     
  28. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So if DC blamed Tannehill you would believe it.. Absolutely. Why would he cover for Tannehill and not the OL.. Cmon.. So better to guess than listen to what is said . You have to be better than this.


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  29. Patssuck

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    It is very distressing to have fans on this site who I assume are adult make such flimsy statements about the character traits of a person they have:
    A. Never met
    B. Never spoken to
    C. Never seen him interact with anyone

    The assumptions people make are laughably unwarranted and they say them with a straight face. Guy is a decent qb, who is not a franchise guy for sure. But we can't leave it at that can we? We have to smear the man, who we can all agree gives it his all and is tough as ****en nails. Guy never *****es about teammates to the media and seems like a pretty professional guy.
     
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  30. finsfandan

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    It's just speculation on my part but here's my take on it.

    I've heard Campbell put the onus on Pouncey twice. During his press conference he challenged Pouncey. Now he said the safety was Pouncey's fault.

    Remember the reports of Tannehill being at odds with the practice squad? Supposedly Philbin told them to go easy on Tannehill to help build his confidence. This is a guy that's never been spectacular in his college or professional career.

    Something tells me Pouncey is somebody that can take the heat. He's a Pro Bowler with a great career so far. Not sure Tannehill can handle the heat.

    FWIW, nobody outside of the Dolphins fan base thinks that safety was on anybody but Tannehill. He wasn't focused. He already had time to scan the field. He wasn't calling an audible.


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  31. resnor

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    Tannehill was looking out to the left side of the field. Only on this forum does anyone think that a snap at the wrong time is the QBs fault.

    The practice squad thing again? Really? The guys were jumping routes and picking off balls in a WALKTHROUGH. Just stop already.
     
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  32. Finster

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    If Tanne was a real leader, they wouldn't do it to begin with, so there wouldn't have to be someone asking them to stop, you think that would ever happen to Brady? Definitely not twice I can tell you that much, and he wouldn't have needed a coach to sort it out.

    It could definitely be looked at as a sign of lack of respect for Tanne.
     
  33. resnor

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    If there were leaders on defense, it wouldn't happen either. You could argue there are no leaders, because leaders wouldn't allow anyone to do that.
     
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  34. LI phinfan

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    Can people please read what res wrote and stop with this ps thing.. Just like he said, it was a walk through. So now DC blames Pouncey to protect Tannehill??! Isnt it easier to believe the coach instead of "guessing " ..so if he blames RT fine.. If he blames the OL it's RT. Funny how that works. Facts be damned.. I know better. Btw.. I heard the clocks go back an hr tonight.. They say they do this every year.. Not sure...I think they are making this up to protect RT.. He Needs an extra hr sleep.. .. But I'm just guessing


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  35. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    That doesn't make Tanne any more of a leader though does it, and yes I agree there are no leaders, but that includes Tanne.
     
  36. Bumrush

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    Tannehill has that same demeanor every big game... 2013, need to win 1 of 2 at home. No fire.
    2014 at home against the Ravens to give us a high playoff probability. No fire.
    Campbell era gets off to a fast start and all we need to do is compete against the Patriots- No fire.

    The guy not only lacks in pocket presence but he lacks in huddle and leadership presence.
     
  37. finsfandan

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    I'm just calling it as I see it and as the reports show.

    Pouncey keeps taking the heat because he can take it. Campbell lays into him because he's a leader. Philbin shielded Tannehill because he can't take it.


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  38. LI phinfan

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    The team as a whole has had no fire in all those games. We get it. You are not convinced he is the guy.. You have every right.. But can we stop criticizing body language and demeanor now as a evaluating tool. Its ridiculous. All players are different. All QB's are different. This is honestly silliness


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  39. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What reports are you talking about? I can understand you forming opinions by what you see.. But by what you don't know or are guessing about? Makes no sense. So you made this assumption about Pouncey taking the heat from what exactly?


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  40. finsfandan

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    The report on Tannehill being at odds with the practice squad and Campbell's press conference when he challenged Pouncey. Plus another poster claimed Campbell blamed the safety on Pouncey.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...out-squad-denies-belittling-teammate-paycheck

    http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/10/6/9460627/dan-campbell-im-going-to-challenge-these-guys




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