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Landry and Stills at end of game

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  1. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The problem happened at a walk through.. A walk through. Campbell blames Pouncey so that must mean he is protecting RT? If Campbell blamed RT, would he be protecting someone else? Its easier to believe that than Pouncey made a mistake and snapped it early? And if you read that article, RT got upset because guys were disrupting a walk through. He gets upset, and people say he needs protection. He is calm and people say he has no fire.... Head scratcher.


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  2. finfansince72

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    So Tannehill has a bad game against the Patriots and now his career is over? You could write a laundry list of Qbs the Patriots have made look bad over the years. Luck, Peyton Manning, Russell Wilson...bums like that right? It was one game, it was bad but you judge Tannehill after the season is over not after the Patriots game. The mains are trying to be in after a loss, so much blaming and ridiculous, silly posting that it hurts your eyes to look at sometimes.
     
  3. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Great post. Nailed it.. A lot if this stuff hurts the eyes


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  4. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    I'm not judging off of one game. I predicted a loss before the game anyway.

    We're in what, his fourth season already? What has he shown you to make you think he's special? His middle of the road QBR and Passer Rating? His zero playoff appearances? Choking at home at the end of the season? His best season being tied to Miller's best season? His regression this season, then record, then regression all tied to Miller's performances?

    Tannehill's career isn't over. It's just mediocre. He shouldn't be on this team anymore if his trajectory remains the same once we can opt out of his contract. Not for $100 million. You've gotta have a special skill set for that.


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  5. Bumrush

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    The facts are the facts.

    I have many close friends that are fans of other teams and diehard NFL observers.. They all laughed at me when I told them Tannehill would turn into a very serviceable to elite QB. Sadly, they were spot on. Nobody in here wants to accept that fact, neither do I. But at a certain point you have to balance yourself out with reality - And the reality is Tannehill has been a mediocre QB his entire career, and the probability of him making that leap is low, given his subpar intangibles.

    Go tell fans of the other 31 teams that Tannehill is the type of QB that can lead this team through a deep playoff run. See their reactions.

    The one common theme in Miami since Marino left was that no QB could carry this team. When a QB performed, understood the play clock, understood TOP, understood how to manage the game, we won the division. The rest of the time under Henne and the other cast of scrubs, this team has been mediocre to horrific. The one common denominator whether it was Sparano, Philbin and now Campbell is being hamstrung by a QB that cannot make big plays or carry the team on their back.

    Is it fair to put it all on the QB? Hell no. Does the OL factor in? Of course. But at the end of the day elite to very good QB's can be the difference between mediocre and playoff glory. We don't have that X-Factor and if we can somehow find that X-factor you move on from Tannehill. Otherwise, expect more of the same. We can swap WR's, change OC's and do all the shennigans we have been doing (Wallace and Marshall anyone) and the outcome will remain the same. 7-9, 8-8, 6-10, 9-7.
     
  6. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    That's right. I know lots of fans of other teams. They watch Dolphins games down here because they're South Floridians. They all see the same thing you and I do. They're not biased. Nothing in it for them to be pessimists. Me either. I wish I could say my QB inspires confidence. Just doesn't.


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  7. Fin D

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    Holy crap! Why didn't you tell everyone that your friends laughed at you over Tannehill????!?!??!?!?

    Those are facts we needed this whole time. So many arguments could have never happened.
     
  8. Bumrush

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    Don't be a prick HeisenD.

    You know exactly what I mean. I haven't spoken to one non Dolphin fan that see's anything special about Tannehill. They have no pre-existing bias and watch as much football as we do.
     
  9. Fin D

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    Yes, I know what you meant and that's PRECISELY the kind of evidence we've needed all these year!!!!!!!!
     
  10. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    How about this fact? 26-29. Does that mean anything to you?
     
  11. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    Where are the stats that point to anything other than mediocrity? Check his QBR and Passer Rating. Some of those guys behind him are more accomplished, like Flacco and Eli. Heck, Newton too. That's just off the top of my head.

    What is he exceptional or good at? Throwing? Running? Deep balls? Scrambles? What? What are his redeeming qualities? He's just mediocre at mostly everything.


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  12. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Holy Crap Fin D, I have friends that think RT is a very good QB,.. Would love to have him on their team. That's a fact. So now I can assume he is a really good QB? You said it. So many arguments could've been avoided!


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  13. Fin D

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    For a qb? No. Record is not a QB stat.
     
  14. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Gotcha. QB's have no influence on a team record and haven't been known to make extraordinary plays to keep games competitive.
     
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  15. Fin D

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    lol, did I say they have no influence? No of course the I didn't.

    The opposite is true though based on your logic and that is what you and every other person that makes record a QB stat is saying..and that's that no other player or coach matters when it comes to wins and losses, its only the QB.

    The sheer monumental stupidity of this effing argument is eventually going to crush itself under its own weight.

    W/L is a team record because football is goddamned team sport.

    According you and every other person that tries this crap, then the Ravens first Super Bowl win was thanks to Dilfer and Marino was the reason Marino never won a Super Bowl.

    DO NOT argue that AND maintain the same logic that wins & loses are a QB stat, because then you become a hypocrite.
     
  16. Buckeyetroop

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    Actually what's silly and ridiculous is not recognizing that a QB who is smiling on the sideline after a safety and a pick, given his resume and lack of sustained success, is a major flaw in our "franchise" QB among other things.
     
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  17. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think what is ABSOLUTELY silly is that you have ANY INSIGHT to what was being spoken about...or why he was smiling... And even worse, attributing your perception as a major flaw ... Just floored the leap some make by seeing an image of a QB on a sideline with out any clue what is actually going on that you are not priveleged to... Wow.


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  18. Buckeyetroop

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    His demeanor on the sideline and on the field says it all. Some just don't want to see it.
     
  19. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wow. That is just laughable. Is it true because you said so? The only one with blinders on is you. I'm saying that a person can't make the leap you are making without any context of what is going on or being said... But you can. Special powers you have that no one else has? Now if someone on the team came out and said RT was laughing and does not give a hoot about winning, then I can understand.. That's basing an opinion on a fact. Basing it on watching a face on tv and your super powers is asinine.. Wow, my head hurts.


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  20. Buckeyetroop

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    Are you new to sports?
     
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  21. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yep, played baseball in College, coached all kinds of sports for kids and adults. Even umpire college baseball games now. I have watched Football since 1972. Love it... Love all sports. While I'm not an expert by any means, I think I know plenty about sports. Know what I know plenty about? Guys who make ridiculous statements about what is going through someone's mind by seeing a picture on a tv screen and making foolish decisions on what it means! Does that make it any clearer for you.


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  22. Buckeyetroop

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    If you've been around sports like you claim, you should see it. I wanted RT to be that guy that I hoped he would be, but he CLEARLY isn't.
     
  23. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm not saying he is the guy, I'm saying the leap you are making is not justified. Plenty of other things to judge him on...if my tone was offending, my apologies. Im sure you love this team as much as I do


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  24. Buckeyetroop

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    Not offended at all and no need for apologies. I'm sure we want the same things and it's been frustrating for too many years.
     
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  25. cuchulainn

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    If people have never seen Tannehill get pissed, they're not paying attention. He was visibly upset in the Pats game over the drive killing drops and especially the 2 INTs and issues with Matthews, but also in the Texans win Tannehill was pissed over Dion Sims not catching that last pass. What he does is swallow his anger, retain his composure, and go talk to the players about what went wrong. Is he too nice at times? Yes, probably, but so what?

    Go back and watch the games and you'll his anger flash before he quells it and moves on. As @LI PHINFAN said, most of the people making these claims are already Tannehill detractors who are making much ado over a few sideline shots to fit the narrative they already beat into every other thread. Rocky's points are dead on as well.

    And really, if he were to throw a Greg Hardy-esque fit, the same crowd would be saying he lacked professionalism and can't control his emotions.
     
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    I'd also like to see some fire from Tannehill, but I stopped thinking top athletes need to show fire (in terms of outward emotional expressions) once Fedor Emelianenko came on the MMA scene in the early 2000's. He became the most dominant heavyweight MMA champ of his time and the guy almost makes Belichick look like he's emotional.
     
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