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Post Traumatic Dolphin Syndrome

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by 2socks, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Why is all I want to know?

    Why do I torture myself?

    Why do we get clubbed but I cant wait for next week to get here?

    Why have I been doing this for 40 years to myself?

    I must have something really short circuited up stairs. Its easy to just pick up on a team like New England or Green Bay who seem to win consistently. But no matter how good they are it doesn't seem to matter. Scarey part is there are many like me. Why? What have we done to deserve this mediocre bull**** for 15 years. There is no end in sight either.

    Why not throw the hands up in the air and go talk about how frigging good Tom Brady is? They make sure you know how to spell Belicheck's name on the web site before you sign up..........lol Philbin who?

    Since 2000, there have been 21 different head coaches between the other teams in the division.

    Miami Dolphins: 8 Head Coaches Since 2000

    Dave Wannstedt (2000-2004). 73 games coached, 42-31 record. Won AFC East in 2000.
    Jim Bates (2004, Interim). 7 games coached, 3-4 record.
    Nick Saban (2005-2006). 32 games coached, 15-17 record.
    Cam Cameron (2007). 16 games coached, 1-15 record.
    Tony Sparano (2008-2011). 61 games coached, 29-32 record. Won AFC East in 2008.
    Todd Bowles (2011, Interim). 3 games coached, 2-1 record.
    Joe Philbin (2012-Present). 38 games coached, 18-20 record.

    Buffalo Bills: 8 Head Coaches Since 2000

    Wade Phillips (1998-2000). 48 games coached, 29-19 record.
    Gregg Williams (2001-2003). 48 games coached, 17-31 record.
    Mike Mularkey (2004-2005). 32 games coached, 14-18 record.
    Dick Jauron (2006-2009). 57 games coached, 24-33 record.
    Perry Fewell (2009, Interim). 7 games coached, 3-4 record.
    Chan Gailey (2010-2012). 48 games coached, 16-32 record.
    Doug Marrone (2013-2014). 16 games coached, 6-10 record.
    Rex Ryan (2015-Present).

    New York Jets: 5 Head Coaches Since 2000

    Al Groh (2000). 16 games coached, 9-7 record.
    Herm Edwards (2001-2005). 80 games coached, 39-41 record.
    Eric Mangini (2006-2008). 48 games coached, 23-25 record.
    Rex Ryan (2009-2014). 80 games coached, 42-38 record.
    Todd Bowles (2015-Present).

    This is not a story about New England but what has become the norm for all of us: The Franchises, the fans. Football has become an illusion and switching teams is Benedict Arnold in my opinion.

    But then again would history remember - I wonder.....................................
     
  2. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    It's infuriating but becoming less and less of a factor in my life.

    I was ready to walk away from the season if we didn't fire Philbin.
     
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  3. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I remember really until about when Ricky retired, just couldn't wait until the weekend got here. Now there are a lot of times I don't even watch the game. Just check the score later on or come on here to see how everyone feels.
     
  4. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    76Ers fan in basketball, and Fins fan in football, and I am as equally as passionate about both of these teams.
     
  5. number21

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    I actually have the same thoughts at times about this team but I don't give up because when we will eventually be good I would hate myself that I gave up or even worse just switched teams.
     
  6. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I admit I think about it much less then I used to. The joy is gone and has been since the season after Ricky retired to go smoke urb. Often when we lost/loose my weekend was shot out because I was miserable. Not in a long time have I got like that, I am just miserable and have a tough time getting up for anything this franchise does because it is ALWAYS a failure. It comes thru in my posts because I have a cynical outlook from being pumped up then beat down so much. This season was an example. I was one of only a few that didn't buy into the SUH Sweepsteaks and openly said it would be a bad bad idea to sign him.. Great player - sure, worth 120 mil not even close. Not now. If we were a player away from the trophy -ok but were not even close to sniffing that thing as evidenced Thursday.

    I still think we are 7-9 or 8-8. Instead of letting Campbell continue, we will try to make a splash. It is the Dolphin way and probably a mistake. Worst part about it is Campbell will probably end up on the outside looking in or with another Franchise and that just doesn't seem right.
     
  7. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I get angry and frustrated, but giving up just isn't on the table for me. I've been a Dolphins fan since I was 8 years old, and diehard since I was 13. We haven't been to the AFC title game since I was 15, but my love and passion for the team will never wane. The team is a part of me. To stop being a fan would be like asking me to cut off my left arm.

    The people who are part of the problem will eventually be gone. We can only hope that those who replace them will be better
     
  8. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    I don't know about a splash, but I'm not uncomfortable with Jackson being the likely successor.
     
  9. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Jackson?
     
  10. Finster

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    I'm not as emotionally attached at this point, it's simply a self preservation thing, you get tired of feeling like someone kicked you in the guts every sunday so i've become emotionally detached.

    A big reason for this also, is that I haven't had faith in the FO for a few years, basically since Ross took over, but it was more based on Ireland at the time, however, when Ross came out and said we're going to the SB with Henne and that he was going to be as good as Dan, I immediately started doubting him, and he hasn't given me much reason to change my mind yet.

    These dark times will make the resurgence that much sweeter though, hopefully it's sooner rather than later.
     
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  11. yogi superstar

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    Me too! I literally was registered on the Jags website, but the next day Philbin was gone.
     
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  12. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I dont really know why anyone is that upset over Thursdays loss outside of losinc Wake for season. Next weeks game is the one to vomit after if we lose.
     
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  13. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Why would anyone give up? Something you truly love you cant just give up. Its a part of your person.
     
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  14. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    For me there was the hope of Dan Campbell.

    Second this thread is not about giving up. It is about what makes us keep going and supporting these dumb mother ****ers year after year after year. Same stuff over and over. Kind of like the movie - Live Die repeat

    the biggest glaring thing about what happened Thursday is we are far away from being a team like New England. It just humbles you. And again you ask the question - why do I deserve this?
     
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  15. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Why does anyone stop doing the same thing over and over and over?

    Do we really expect a different result or is the mirage built in to the fact that if we get our 10th coach in 15 seasons that maybe, just maybe he will do something different this time that puts this team on a different path.

    Yes you are correct, and it is an excellent way to put it, we dont give up because the team has become part of us. Very well articulated.

    Now I got to figure out a damn way to get it out of me............exorcism???
     
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  16. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Because at the moment...every NFL team short of Green Bay is far away from NE.

    We arent in their class at the moment, is what it is. But we will get there...and I believe we will have a season we wil all feel pretty good about at the end.
     
  17. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Shrugs if losing bothers someone that much...could always be one of the fans that hops from contender to contender. Then you will never be disappointed.
     
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  18. number21

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    Someone would give up if they're tired of holding out hope to have nothing happen for year after year.
     
  19. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Just wish I knew when that was going to be because I been waiting since 85's last super bowl appearance, that is now 30 years ago. Who would have ever thought that one of the best QB's to ever play the game would never make it back and that this team hasnt even come close
     
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  20. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Much like most of life, hope is all that we have.
     
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  21. Onehondo

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    I lived and grew up in south Florida, my Dad and I were excited when they decided to put an AFL Franchise in Miami. We were fans from the start, when George Wilson was the coach and Dick Wood was the quarterback, and Flipper was just outside one of the end zones. We suffered through the expansion years until Don Shula arrived and everything changed, We watched games together being excited and enjoying the wins and the disappointment of losses. My Dad and I shared the excitement of the 1972 undefeated Super Bowl winning season, and we again shared most of the 1973 Super Bowl season. My Dad passed away before the Super Bowl win. My Dad Loved the Dolphins, loved to watch them with me. They had a special place in our lives. They are a legacy to me that I inherited from my Dad and now my Son shares it with me. The Dolphins have been struggling for a long time now with different owners, different coaches, different GMs but I wont ever give up on them. I will love the Dolphins and I will maintain my hope until I pass away.
     
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  22. finsfandan

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    I was born in 92. At least some of you saw some damn playoff wins.


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  23. djphinfan

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    after a loss like that, I get obsessed with trying to figure out why we looked the way we did..are they that much better than us talent wise, is the difference in qb'ing make one team look completely superior than the other...were we just as hyped as the other games yet totally got outschemed leaving us flailing for answers that were not there, were they just flat and tired and mentally were not ready to play.? all scenarios that go thru my head..

    couple things from going back looking at things...jmo here, doing some physco-analysis, im not saying im convinced of this, but, it just looked to me from watching the pregame stuff, watching him walk around in stretch drills and hours before kickoff interacting with his team, that he was feeling empathy towards the players, when I was watching him walk up to players I thought to myself he looks like he's grateful to them, just by how he touched the shoulder pads and shook their hands, some of the expressions he had, it was different, its hard to explian, I think he felt grateful to them for giving him all they had {especially physically} the past three weeks after the firing, and I think he thought that asking them to give more during a very short week, was simply asking to much from them..

    in his presser if you noticed he said, ''these players deserved some time off''...

    as crazy as it may sound, from what I saw, I dont think he wanted them to use up their energy for this game, I dont think he felt right asking them to give their all, and everything he did with his one on one interactions demonstarted such..
     
  24. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    Nah, DJ. Campbell coaches to win every time.

    It was easier for Belichick to scheme to shut down our running game than it was for us to stop Brady's passing assault. Simple as that.


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  25. djphinfan

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    I just think he thought he might be jeopardizing them physically if he asked them to push..I swear I saw the empathy..so while he may not of been doing it on purpose per say, I think his body language and demeanor spoke for itself..I saw a clip of him coming up to a player, he put his arm around him, looked at him, gave him a bro shake and hug, then walked away shaking his head...as if to say, i can't believe you sacrificed this much for me..
     
  26. djphinfan

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    if we see crazed dog demeanor in bufflo then theres a chance he didnt want to push his players in new england...remember, he pushed them harder than other teams are doing at this point in the season...of course hes not gonna come out and say it, but if he felt that way, then players would pick up on it...this dude is fresh out of the nfl...he knows, he can read his players, when to push when not to, its a long season, maybe he's just smarter or more intuitive than we think.

    I'll say this, because if you think the team was playing with the same intenisty as the previous weeks and we just got killed based on scheme then I disagree...I think the team was emotionally checked out, and I think the head coach made it the way, on purpose or subconscioulsy.
     
  27. number21

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    I was born in 95. Only seen one winning season lol.
     
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    True.
     
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    Obviously it was easier to shut down the running game on our own. We went away from it and then got back to it when we put Gray in the game. WTF
    Also it drives me crazy to hand the ball off two yards back on third and short.
    God dam Lazorisms. :pity:
     
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  30. Agua

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    Yeah, Dad and I could share Dolphin football at times when we really didn't see eye to eye on much of anything else. Under Shula, the Dolphins were always smart, played clean, and during the 70s were tough, much the same way I viewed my Dad. I'll always be a fan. Over the 45 whatever seasons I've been watching them, I've learned not to invest so much of myself in the team, though. Setting your heart up season after season only to miss the post season due to late season collapses, missed field goals, showing up flat for games that demand the highest energy, losing to clearly inferior teams with playoffs on the line - you name it, the Dolphins will find a way to disappoint.
     
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  31. Unlucky 13

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    Holy cow you guys are making me feel old. I graduated high school in 95. You probably look at the 90s dolphins teams the way I look at the ones from the 70s.

    I respect you though. You've never had even the joy of a team that was a playoff contender every season, and yet you're still here.
     
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    I was born in 66, the same year the team was born. I wore Mercury Morris and Larry Czonka jerseys to school in first and second grades. I was the biggest Marino fan in the world in HS and college. In the 90s I would go to several games a year despite living 3 hours away. Once Marino retired, I started to lose passion, though I still attended many games per season until 2002. These last 14 years since we lost that playoff game to the Ravens after the 2001 season, I just haven't been able to get as excited about this team. I am not ready to give up on them, but I can't seem to invest as much emotionally in them as I used to.
     
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  33. dolphin25

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    So, you 2 are the reason!!!
     
  34. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I think I have conditioned myself not to expect too much, then when it happens I am pleasantly surprised. I never say, they will beat so and so next week because it always seems to jinx them and I end up being disappointed. I always root for them and always hope for the best but my faith has worn a little thin.
     
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  35. Kud_II

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    Cause we're going to beat Buffalo and people will realize the Mighty Dolphins aren't going away.

    Actually without Cam Wake I don't know if we will beat Buffalo. LOL. Next man up needs to step up.
     
  36. Kud_II

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    I was born in 85 I think the last playoff game I remember watching and winning a RB named Lamar Smith ran for like 200 yards on Indy. I think we got crushed the following week.

    We are one of the biggest jokes in the league. We are the Dolphins and no one respects us. Like the Cleveland Browns of the South. That's how I feel about the Dolphins, but I keep coming back cause I don't feel passion for any other team.
     
  37. finsfandan

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    I believe we last won a single playoff game in 2000. I was 7 or 8 at the time. I root for the Fins, the Fish and the Heat for obvious reasons.


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  38. dolfan22

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    Preparation and effort for two reasons .
     
  39. dolfan22

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    If that's the case then the interim part of interim head coach is appropriate . Oh .... add in preparation .
     
  40. Jen

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    I try to enjoy the highs of rooting for the team, and just forget about the lows. I tend to move on from losses quickly. I work in healthcare, so it's humbling. To go to work Monday morning and deal with a patient who is dying, and has a 4 year old daughter at home with no family or friends to care for her after mom passes on... suddenly, I don't care about the outcome of a football game anymore, good or bad. I do spend time trying to analyze what went wrong in terms of game planning and preparation. I love the Dolphins no matter what. I could never switch teams.
     
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