Ryan Tannehill’s struggles in divisional road games mirror those of Miami Dolphins

Oh I know. Just that NFL.com hasn't calculated his rating yet and I'm too lazy to calculate it. But I saw what he did today. Very efficient. Rushing yardage was low though (he was average 6.0 until today).

 

cam newton is flawed in the passing game as it gets but my goodness is he aware of situational football, and really understands how to put his offense in the right play at the LOS...I owe him an apology..

I dont know how far he can get with his arm, but his legs are as important..

 

i was just posting it because you had 70 % completion..

 

He he has made strides with his arm IMO, I don't like making a ton of excuses for QBs (I know I'm funny like that) but when Ted Ginn is your second most targeted weapon I feel for you.

if Kelvin Benjamin had played this season, Cam would be the MVP of the league. Hell he still might. He is a QB you could put on the Phins tommorow and I'd be ecstatic.

 

I have watched Tannehill for 3 and a half seasons. I have seen Taylor in the two games against Miami. I just see a better overall QB when I look at Taylor. He can throw the short passes as accurately as Tannehill and he certainly throws a great deep ball.

He moves in the pocket and as I stated earlier, he has an awareness in the pocket that just seems to be something Tannehill lacks.

I am not saying Taylor is or ever will be an elite QB in the NFL. I just like the things he offers as an NFL QB more than the things I have seen from Tannehill over the past 3 plus years.

 

Tannehill is third best qb in division at this time.

 

Tannehill is very high vs. the blitz.

Do your homework before posting next time, ace.

 

Has he been a winner in college or pros?Has he been outplayed by rival afc qbs almost every game?

 

Means nothing.

College often does not translate to NFL success. See, Tebow, Tim and Ware, Andre.

You hate him, and you have just made up your mind.

Admit it.

 

In meaningful games? I think not

 

You are correct.

 

Oh I see. I whipped your weak argument so you change the criteria.

Typical.

 

Oh boy

 

You got me all wrong dude.Tannehill is my qb in two fantasy leagues but he has dissapointed on both fronts.
He is not a big game qb but at least I can admit it.

 

But rarely do you see successful QBs in the NFL who wasn't dominant in college. It happens, but rare.

 

When has a semi half decent O line, not the worst in the NFL, I will decide then.

Right now my grade is I

 

So winning means nothing to you. Obviously you think Tannehill is the man and whether he ever leads this team to a winning record or not is totally irrelevant to you.

To some of us, winning is the ONLY thing which is important and we understand that with Tannehill at QB, winning seasons just might not be possible.

 

I think whats so polarizing about tannehill is that he doesn't suck. It'd be so much easier if he did. For the most part he had a solid day today. His only mistake, imo, was believing Jason Fox would play well for 4qtrs.

Yet here we are, again, having drawn out arguments over tannehill.

It's because there's no argument about our secondary, our secondary sucks. No argument about our Lbs, our lbs suck. No argument about our ol, our OL sucks...

But our qb...he doesn't suck. But admitting that it's NOT tannehills fault means having to face a far harsher truth.


We really suck as a team.

 

We gave up 250+ yards rushing today! AGH

 

Tony Romo? Aaron Rodgers?

 

lol, it's simplistic to attribute wins or losses solely to the QB.

Football is deeper than that.

He would have had to throw for 600 yards and 8 TDs to overcome this pitiful defense.

Get real!

 

I say it happens, just rare. And I'm not talking being dominant, i.e. great stats.

Tannehill's stats in college were not impressive. 7.0 ypa against college defenders.

 

With all due respect..so?

He broke some of Marino's records, he just had a perfect rating 2 weeks ago, again something Marino never did. He has a TON of potential, but he needs a little help. Just a little. How about we don't have a mentally challenged OC and at least 2 half decent OL?

That would be a start.

 

Welcome back, enjoy your stay.

 

Nail, meet head.

It's a hard realization. It's easier to replace 1 guy than an entire team and coaching staff.

When the team is losing, just get a new QB and problem solved, right? Except the QB goes 27-36 for 306 yards and a passer rating of 100.

He doesn't suck, at all. And that upsets people because as you said it'd be a lot more convenient if he did.

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Our team as a whole is mediocre to bad. Tannehill is mediocre to good. We're finishing last in the division after coming in third twice in a row. We are the punching bag of the AFC East. There's always next year, maybe decade or century.


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Yeah, Tannehill looks mediocre to good while playing on a team that is mediocre to bad, more heavily leaning on the bad side.

 

He broke some of the most useless records there. Yeah, that means he's not a terrible or bad QB and I don't believe he's bad.

25 completions in a row? Yeah I guess. Since half them were at the LOS or behind, and most were less than 10 yards. And Dan played in an era where DBs were basically buttfu**ing wide receivers down the field. Tannehill remains a limited QB. He can do fairly well when we have a good OL but newsflash, we're never going to consistently have a good OL. Unless you're Bill Belichick good OL's are fleeting.

What is, just a big if, this is his ceiling? Sure Andy Dalton seems to have taken a step forward in year 5. But Jay Cutler is Jay Cutler after all of these years.

 

Very true, but Dalton has some real weapons. Green, Eifert, Jones.

We have Landry and sometimes Stills. Matthews is way too hit or miss.

 

Isn't Matthews leading in receiving yards on our team?


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He's seemingly disappeared the last couple games.

 

Ryan Tannehill’s struggles in divisional road games mirror those of Miami Dol...

I don't know how much of that is Tannehill's or Matthews' fault.

Honestly the more and more I see Tannehill not being able to elevate our team in big games the less I believe in the guy. I used to say he could win a Super Bowl with a good team but I'm not so sure anymore.

These divisional games are horrendous. One of the two wins he's gotten against division opponents, Moore stepped in once he was injured. We scored 35 against the Jets. Not saying Moore is necessarily better or that the one game is a huge indictment against Tannehill but 1-8? Is that the stat for away divisional games in the Tannehill era? At some point you've gotta take that as a huge red flag against the guy.




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What are the average points allowed, man?

The first two seasons are kind of a wash for me, when it comes to Tannehill, as I didn't expect much, nor should anyone, as he was young and raw. Last season was a crapshoot with which receiving corp would show up, and which defense would play. This season, the defense again seems to love to allow the opposition to bend them over a barrel.

 

Not sure but I know if your offense can't stay on the field and score points, your defense will suffer. The opposite is true. If your defense can never get off the field, your offense will suffer or at least won't be able to keep up.

It just seems he can never elevate us in big games no matter what's going on. Division games and end of the season games to make a run at the wildcard, he hasn't been very good at all.


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So, the offense having troubles means the defense can't force their own three and outs?

People say stuff like "elevate his game" as if that means something. Tannehill had a good game today. The defense was terrible. The refs were abysmal. At least two touchdowns shouldn't have occurred.

 

Matthews hit or miss? He was thrown to 4 times today and caught all 4 for 54 yards.

On one 3rd down play today the announcer was critical of Tannehill's decision to throw to a blanketed WR that was easily broken up for not throwing it to Matthews who had a couple of steps on the player defending him as he ran a crossing routed right in front of Tannehill and would have been an easy 1st down.

Over the last 4 games he has caught 20 passes out of the 25 times thrown to him for 276 yards and 1 TD. That would equate to a QB rating of 126.

For the season Matthews has caught 33 passes out of 47 targets, for 500 yards and 4 TDs. That would equate to a 133.29 QB rating and 15.2 YPC and 10.64 YPA is OUTSTANDING!

That Matthews is only getting targeted a little less than 6 times a game is not Matthews doing. That Miami is not feeding the beast more is insane.

 

Spot on, Adam. I don't get it either. That's decision making and it's on Tannehill.


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