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If you could get rid of one guy....

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by sad dolfan, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. sad dolfan

    sad dolfan Banned

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    who would be the biggest addition by subtraction?

    For me it's Lazor.

    The sooner he is gone the better. When was the last time we had a competent OC??
     
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  2. Silverphin

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    Dallas Thomas or Fox. It's a coin flip with those two.
     
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  3. Vertical Limit

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    Tannehill
     
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  4. muskrat21

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    ross
     
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  5. Ohio Fanatic

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    Tom Brady
     
  6. Vertical Limit

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    I don't know about that, I'd start Ross over Tannehill. I think Ross can complete a pass over 4 yards.
     
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  7. sad dolfan

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    Best one yet!
     
  8. dullfandan

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    one guy isnt going to do it...

    this team needs a complete overhaul...
     
  9. sad dolfan

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    That's the rule. One guy. Who is it?
     
  10. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Lazor should be a goner after this year. He's the last of the three headed idiot that was him, Philbin, and Coyle.
     
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  11. muskrat21

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    guess you missed the 2 perfect passes of 20+ yards to stills. it's okay your hate blinds you.
     
  12. We already got rid of the guy that needed to go, Philbin.
    What they need to do now is find a great HC
     
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  13. number21

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    Lol wow. Come on now.
     
  14. Ohio Fanatic

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    while that's true for about 25-30 teams in the NFL, we don't nee dot get rid of one guy right now, we need to build an Oline that isn't a joke and has some real depth.
     
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  15. KeyFin

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    I'd say Tannehill as well; he just has to go and it can't happen soon enough.

    Why? Because he's just a hair too talented for his own good. If he were a little bit better prepared for the game, then maybe he wouldn't have back to back safeties or a habit of turning everyday sacks into hand-offs to the opposing team. But we are going to keep seeing this week after week, and Tannehill himself has told us why a hundred times already- he just ignores the bad plays and keeps going. That's why we saw him laughing on the sidelines about 45 seconds after he gave Buffalo a 2-0 lead, and why he was standing alone and smiling after fumbling the ball. He just doesn't give a crap and that's the worst possible type of QB any team can have on the field.

    But sadly, I thought Tannehill otherwise had a really good day. He threw the ball well, led his targets properly on a good number of his passes and stayed mobile. And that's why he will continue to start....even though he has no business on the field at this time. Ryan Tannehill is an immature train-wreck of a player and I just don't know how many more games I can stand watching him at this point. In 3-5 years, he will probably be a perennial Pro Bowl quarterback...but I just don't have 60 more games of watching sucky attitude and stupid mistakes in me. Tannehill desperately needs to be benched for his own good...at this point, it's the only way he will develop quickly.
     
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  16. sad dolfan

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    Missed the game today, huh?
     
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  17. I completely agree. It is disgraceful how long they have been trying to assemble the O-Line and how much has been invested into it, and how little they have to show for it. Its mind-boggling
     
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  18. sad dolfan

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    Especially when considering Philbin was the offensive line coach for GB, should have been good at it!
     
  19. KeyFin

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    No, unfortunately I saw every miserable play....including the 5 drives that Tannehill ended with brain-farts.
     
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  20. so was sporano, this issue predates philbin
     
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  21. sad dolfan

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    So 306 yards, 100.3 rating no int.

    Sucks huh?

    OK, thanks.
     
  22. jw3102

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    It really isn't close. Ross purchased a team which had gone 11-5 the year before he became majority owner and it has not had a single winning season since he took over.

    I have no doubt he wants to put a winner on the field. I just don't believe he has a clue how to go about putting the best people in place to build a winner in Miami.

    We have a head of football operations who was fired from the Jets because he put the team in cap hell and by the time he was fired, the Jets were one of the worst teams in the league.

    We have a GM no other team had any desire to hire for that position. So far other than Landry and a slightly above average James, his two drafts have left a lot to be desired.

    Ross decided to stick with Philbin after three years of mediocrity while many people felt Philbin needed to be fired after the 2014 season. By keeping Philbin around, Ross merely made 2015 another wasted season.

    I really don't see anything changing for the better as long as Ross remains the teams owner. So if I could get rid of anyone in the organization, I would start at the very top and get rid of Ross.
     
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  23. jw3102

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    You don't win games with stats. You win by putting up more points than the other team. 17 points is just not enough to win many games in the NFL.

    The problem with Tannehill is most of his yards are produced in the middle of the field and not in the red zone. I imagine you could probably have similar stats if all you had to do was pass the ball a 1-5 yards on 90% of the passes while the RB and WR's
    make the majority of the yards after the catch.
     
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  24. sad dolfan

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    True, but the defense could at least pretend to stop the other team. 266 yards on the ground is horrible. No two ways about it.

    He averaged 8.6 YPA today.
     
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    Wow, this post is a mess. I dont even know what to say.
     
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  26. muskrat21

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    people complain about miami's dink and dunk, but when the pats dominate the league with it people say how good brady is...
     
  27. resnor

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    Look. Tannehill is able to accumulate pretty good stats behind a line that might as well not even have someone on the field on the right side. The defense had decided that stopping the run isn't important, and they let teams like the a Bills put up 36 (well, 34 minus the safety). That's pathetic.

    It's been pointed it before, regardless of the fact that Wilson has elite talent running, that Tannehill will never have, how many games has he won when his defense allows 24 or more? The defense makes a huge difference.
     
  28. CaribPhin

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    Come on guys, I don't believe we're letting teams do things to us. We suck, we're that bad team in the AFC South we like to laugh at.
     
  29. Boik14

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    Everyone not named Suh, Landry, Jones, Lamar Miller, Parker, Ajayi, James, Tannehill, Albert, Pouncey, Misi, and Jenkins. So basically most of the other 40 or so players unless the new coach wants them here and all coaches.
     
  30. muskrat21

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    do you not know the definition of one?
     
  31. gunn34

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    I agree with tannehill.
    Someone messed up and told him it was a big game and he does what he always does in big games.
     
  32. KeyFin

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    You want to go numbers? Okay, let's go numbers...starting with the first snap. Tannehill has the ball hit his hands, and despite being humiliated last week by doing the exact same thing, his first play of the day is to give Buffalo 2 points.

    When he finally gets another chance at the end of the 1st quarter, he throws a screen pass. Then another. Then another. Just rotating through the roster...a screen to Miller, Landry, Matthews, and so on. Miller runs decent, everything is going well until we face a 3rd and 5. Bills blitz, Tannehill locks onto Landry and throws the incompletion (on a pass that just as easily could have been picked off).

    He does have a good drive at the end of the 2nd quarter, where he only slightly underthrew Stills for what should have been an easy TD lob. But we won't count this against Tannehill YET because it was a 1st down, after all. Just like we won't count his 3rd down pass where the receiver cut inside and Tannehill threw the other way....that didn't count because of pass interference. But at the end of the day, he had 5 plays in the red zone to throw a TD pass....and he failed. He threw to his primary read every single time though- now we're at -9 points for Tannehill.

    In the third quarter, Tannehill had another very nice drive and capped it with a TD. Very nice, he's only -2 points on the day now. But then he sees the pressure coming, runs backwards 6 yards to avoid the sack and manages to fumble the football in the process...which sets up the Bills next TD. So he's back to -9 points on the day.

    Now, that's not horrible since the refs gave the Bills +14 on their own with ridiculous calls....but Tannehill hurt us far more than he helped on the day. And I agree with you guys, he looked darn good doing it. But that's the tease you get with Tannehill; he shines at times, is deplorable in other situations, and always finds a way to let easily winnable games to slip away.

    That's our QB folks. Because if you look at the throws that ended EVERY Miami drive, he looks for Landry or Matthews and fires the bullet whether they're open or not. He had 3 drive killers to today to Landry today alone.....with others wide open yet not even on Tannehill's radar. On one 3rd down, Still's defender checked him at the line and fell down....easiest TD of the year, yet it was a rocket over the middle to a well-defended Sims.
     
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  33. CitizenSnips

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    This is seriously the most slanted description I have ever read in regards to a completely blown block by the RT. He just did his drop. He didn't run anywhere, Hughes was on him 2 seconds flat.
     
  34. bakedmatt

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    You picked one out of the lot?
     
  35. adamprez2003

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    what about the three drives fox singlehandedly killed. remember the sack when we were driving, remember the pass to landry on the sideline called back. remember the other holding calls. jason fox might as well have been wearing a buffalo bills uniform today the way he played. the fact people still expect us to win with this sorry excuse of a line is ridiculous. we're not winning with this offensive line. the game is won in the trenches. we will lose almost every matchup, every week. it will be one sorry *** dline we face the next time we have a chance to win a game
     
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  36. CitizenSnips

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    That specific one really blew my mind. How anyone saw that play and thought anything other than "wow that #74 is ****ing awful" is crazy
     
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    seriously. can anyone name a worst starting tackle for the dolphins in the last twenty years than fox. i seem to recall brian griese having a turnstile at ROT. How many years ago was that? whats really scary though is i'm not sure if i want to get rid of fox. i mean how bad is jeff linkenbach that two coaches would rather suffer their fates playing fox? does linkenbach just turn around on the snap and block his own players?
     
  38. 2socks

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    Tannenbaum and take SUH with him
     
  39. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Four headed idiot. Ross.
     
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  40. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Yes because he does that on a regular basis. And no I'm not talking about those long YAC gains in the Titans and Texans games.
     

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