With Rob being fired, I know this thread will be inevitable. How he failed in NO with some of that talent though... Its curious to me though (and why I stared the thread) that Ryan was also asked to compact his playbook. What gives? these athletes are being paid MILLIONS of dollars...yet they cant take in a whole play book? This league is getting lax. I know a lot of these kids tend to go to state universities and its not exactly hard to get degrees, but c'mon. You cant complain about learning a play book when you play the most lucrative sport in the world. We had to do it, NO did it...Im sure others have. Does anyone have any insight into this? It just boggles my mind how these players keep demanding easier jobs.
Interesting question but it's really about getting production out of people. If these guys can't handle the decision making that the coordinators want to install, it's probably a commentary on how dumb some really are. Even we as fans have heard reports that many Dolphins through recent years have struggled to learn the play-book. Then again, the play books of today are thicker than they've ever been.
Rob Ryan stinks. He's never been good and has rode the coattails of his father and to a lesser extent his brother. It's not just a scheme that's successful, it's maximizing your players within that scheme and knowing when to call the right blitz.
I think it has a lot to do with the coaches being able to put it to the players in a way they can absorb it, for years the Steelers ran Lebeau's D, and were elite year in and year out while running one of the most complicated D's ever. One of Lebeau's critical traits is being able to connect with players, and all his players have said that, and they really loved the guy, look at Harrison, he was the proto typical problem child of the NFL, so bad that he was cut 4 times(3 by the Steelers and 1 by the Ravens) before sticking with the Steelers, and he credits Lebeau for that. So imo, I think it has everything to do with coaches being able to give it to the players in a way they can digest it, and they usually didn't play rookies on D for that reason as well, year 1 was for learning. Just a theory based on observation on my part though.
Quietly, the Saints front office has been rebuilding the team from a complex high powered team with finesse players into a more power run team with easily and cheaper individual parts. Rob and his complex defense don't fit.
excellent observation and i think its why coaches like philbin fail. one of the reasons i like campbell. there's other areas a coach has to be good at like being able to get the right coordinators and coaches and having a feel for in game plays and momentum but the ability to connect, make players buy into the system and then work their asses of in that system is crucial to long term success
Is that not what Belicheat has done for years? His discipline and system work (who knows how much assisted by the cheating...we'll never know). He's the master at getting the right players for his system and getting them to produce within it...no matter what round. Lets pro-bowlers leave and doesn't skip a beat. For the life of me I can't understand why his Cs always leave and fail everywhere else they go...he gives them the blueprint. Is he just that good at picking talent for his systems?
Not quite the most lucrative sport - especially considering the average career is probably the lowest of any on that list. http://www.businessinsider.com/sports-leagues-top-salaries-2015-5 Nonetheless, the game is getting faster. You don't want to hamstring a guy's reaction time because he's thinking too much. These guys don't become the top at their position from HS to college because of the schemes they play in. They do it based on physical talent. Don't limit that athleticism, instinct, speed, etc. because they're making multiple reads. Sometimes less is more.
It's not really a learning and retaining the playbook issue as much as it is a play-speed issue. There's a lot of stuff that gets done between when the offensive personnel package is identified and the snap. You have the initial play-call, but then you've got adjustments based on how the offense lines up, any motion, etc. and so on and it can get complicated. If your players are thinking too much it's going to hurt their reaction time and make it more likely that someone screws up.
Lets also be honest. Rob Ryan didn't really have a lot to work with in New Orleans. Their defense right now has a big lack of talent IMO. I do think sometimes the system can be over complicated. When you start asking guys to do too much thinking, in a game that plays this fast on field, that thought process can cause a delay in reaction time, and boom, just like that you're out of the play. There is a such thing as too much as well IMO.
I once had a math teacher that was brilliant, he knew his stuff really well. However, he could not teach what he knew as he could not understand why others didn't get it like he did. It is a lot coaching, you have to be able to speak it so people can understand it and put it to use.
Actually the NFL is by far the most lucrative sport in the world. It has nothing to do with how much the players get paid. How lucrative a sport is, is determined by the income generated by each team in the league and the total television and other media revenues earned by these teams. No other sport is really even close when it comes to generating income for each of its franchises that the NFL does.
Gotta look at what Tone_E was responding to. What matters in that conversation is how much a player is getting paid, not how lucrative the sport is. So while you're right, average salaries was the appropriate stat.
