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Will we be able to rebuild the OLine before we have to get rid of Tannehill ?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dolphinzdawgg, Nov 15, 2015.

  1. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Just picked them up off the waivers. Couldn't believe they were there considering how well they've played as of late.
     
  2. Phins Up Wins Up

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    So you're saying our quarterback can never bring us back in the game when we fall behind? Doesn't sound like a franchise quarterback who can take over a game. And falling behind early so often doesn't have anything to do with the offenses slow starts right? This offense if I'm correct is the worst scoring 1st quarter offense in the league. And has been for a couple years. But yeah let's blame all that on the defense.
     
  3. Fin D

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    No, what it means is that we're forced to be one dimensional. We have to abandon the run. This is football 101 stuff man.
     
  4. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    That depends on how much the team is down. There's been times when they abandon it far too early in a 1-2 score game.
     
  5. Fin D

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    Also true, which hurts the offensive output, which is a Lazor problem and not a Tannehill one.
     
  6. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Dude....you are picking and choosing to try and prove a point that does not exist. Give up, you're drowning.


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  7. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Where do you rank Tannehill relative to the other QBs in the league?

    Honest question.




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  8. Fin D

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    You're just not making sense.

    The only question I have at this point is if you're intentionally being a douche or you literally have no idea what you're talking about.

    Again, tell me how those quotes are different from your point. Don't be a ***** and deflect like always.
     
  9. Phins Up Wins Up

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    When did the Pats make the playoffs without Brady? 2008 they didn't make the playoffs with Cassel at QB. Dolphins won the division. You don't remember that? Lmao! Shows how much you know about Dolphins football. Did you just become a fan? When did the Packers win without Rodgers? They went 2-6 without him in 2013. No wonder you're ok with mediocrity. You call a 2-6 record winning. With Big Ben Steelers are 4-2. Without 2-2. Really the Steelers are winning without him you say? Cowboys 0-7 without Romo completely different team. Colts were 2-14 without Manning and Luck. When did the Colts win without Luck besides beating the lowly Titans and Texans this year? So I'm confused by your post. When did the Pats make the playoffs without Brady? And when did these teams win without their QBs? Hey buddy how about next time you actually try to refute my post instead trying to make stuff up.
     
  10. Fin D

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    I dunno. I don't spend a lot of time watching all the other QBs.

    I think, in general, we over define the categories that a given QB can fall into.

    I know, however, when our line performs at an average overall level, we are competitive on offense. I know, like last year, when the oline performs, Tannehill is a Top 5-10 QB. That actually happened last year. Once he got accustomed to the new offense and before Albert went down, he and our offense were one the better in the league. Its fact. Its not complicated. I'm also not alone in this observation either...heavyweights like CK, Boomer and rafael all have seen/said the same thing.
     
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  11. Phins Up Wins Up

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    So falling behind early has nothing to do with the offenses slow starts and being one of the worst 1st quarter scoring offenses in the league?
     
  12. Fin D

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    Have you seen the points our defense was allowing? Also, why is a slow starting offense only the QB's fault in your eyes? You are aware that while Philbin was here started EVERY game with a script?

    No, its all Tannehill. He's a boogyman.
     
  13. pumpdogs

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    Yea I picked them up last week to play against grandpa and it.paid off
     
  14. Fin-O

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    Heavyweights.....Rafael said before the season Ryan was already better than Matt Ryan...seems like a blatant miss. CK is always a great read...but he misses on evaluations as much as anyone. Me and Boomer agree on about 90% of all things Ryan...sooooooo

    And top 5?? Thats a tad ridiculous but its also your opinion that I asked for so I will say no more.
     
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  15. BigNastyDB13

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    I don't know why you waste your time Fin-O. We both know you aren't going to learn anything from that guy and he has the complex reasoning of a 5 year old. His football knowledge is on another planet than everyone else. You dont need the headache man.
     
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  16. AdamC13

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    You don't spend a lot of time watching all other QBs, yet you feel competent to declare Tannehill a top 5-10 QB when oline performs...interesting, but not surprising. Have yet to see a post from you demonstrating why and how Tannehill is a top QB.

    Sure explains why all you really seem to do on this forum is be a "stalker and mocker."
     
  17. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Excellent point. Will be interesting to see how it gets twisted.
     
  18. BigNastyDB13

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    I'll save you the time and use his go to...Take lots and lots of pills! Lmao...I'm starting to think this guy's downfall began with a bottle of pills.
     
  19. pumpdogs

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    HAhaha.I can already smell the bull**** thats going to come next.
     
  20. Fin D

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    Do you or do you not understand that "all" qbs is not the same most or many or even 3?

    But I'm sure you chuckleheads spend equal hours on every QB in the league right?
     
  21. jdang307

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    The "heavyweights" other than rafael have questioned Ryan's decision making right now in the Club and out here. So. Fin D, you know where Sec gets his info and what has been said about RT as well. I don't think everyone is that far off from where we think he is now. The question is, what is his ceiling and what are his chances of getting to that ceiling. Fin D you asked Boomer to come post in the mains and this is one of the things he posted:

    http://www.thephins.com/forums/show...es-Tannehill&p=2676860&viewfull=1#post2676860

    And this:

    http://www.thephins.com/forums/show...es-Tannehill&p=2677212&viewfull=1#post2677212


    So you have Boomer, who you specifically asked to post, saying the very things us Tanny "haters" say.

    We ask how many times has he carried his team to win. Boomer says he wants to see Tanny carry a few games on his back, win a tight game down the stretch.

    He's gotten worse this season.

    Despite the bad situation around him, Tanny still isn't being the best QB he can be. Again, his decision making has been called out several times in CL.

    We all have high hopes for Tannehill,b ut he isn't nearly there yet. Even with an improved Oline he will be better, but will he be good enough? His decision making has taken a step back this year for sure. He needs a legit QB coach.
     
  22. Fin-O

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    Curious if these guys argued with Boom over his comments about needing to see Ryan carry the team on his back a few times.....surely he intervened with "No, Wins are a team stat" "And nobody has an it factor" or maybe even the "defense is the reason we lost" even though our offense is scoring a whopping 19ppg.

    Please tell me he isn't picking and choosing who gets these ridiculous replies.
     
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  23. Rock Sexton

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    They don't have the balls to troll Boomer with their nonsense.
     
  24. Rocky Raccoon

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    That Boomer post is pretty accurate. No where did he say Tannehill isn't a franchise QB or that we needed to look for a replacement. Just that there are certain things he needs to improve on.

    Which pretty much every single Tannehill supporter has also said. Not one person has said he's a perfect, elite player.
     
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  25. Fin D

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    What the **** are you talking about?

    Seriously, I'm so tired of the insanity of you people.

    Not one bit of that refutes a single goddamned thing I said.

    Do you even realize that you admit I asked Boomer to post that exact thing you think refutes what I said? Why would I want him to post something that was different than how I feel? Think about it.

    Before you PITAs post on this again read this how many ever times you need to, to get it through your collective thick skulls:
    They all agreed that during the timeframe I mentioned he was playing like a Top 5-10 QB. Your post is not only stupid because you missed the point, but its also stupid because that is not anything any of us have been arguing.

    Its so effing infuriating, that thread after thread, post after post, you chuckleheads keep lying about the opposition's stance. Over and over and over and over.

    Tell you what, I'm done. You guys keep ****ting on Tannehill. Keep felating each other about ****ting on Tannehill. Keep lying. Keep on keeping on.

    But when we get an average oline and Tannehill breaks the Top 10, then I hope you all have the sack to admit you were wrong and apologize for all the bull**** you've caused. If we get that average oline play and he doesn't, I will apologize and admit I'm wrong, I've proven I will do that...not a single one of you has, of course.

    So let's just **** play out and see which one of us was right and which of us is man enough to admit they were wrong.
     
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  26. Fin-O

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    There isn't a poster here who wouldn't gladly accept your eat-crow post if Ryan ever does become an elite qb. We ALL WANT THAT TO HAPPEN!!! And I'm not talking about a one game sample size either, we need him to be consistently good, not consistently meh...

    Problem is we recognize Ryan is struggling, we recognize the whole damn team is save a handful of guys, but when you are a 100M QB all eyes will be on you rather thats fair or not it comes with the territory.

    And enough with the dividing of fans, I'm not on a "side". When i feel like he plays well, i say it...when i fell like he plays bad....i say it. But he has been such a non factor in winning and losing, I have my doubts he will ever be a QB who can win games consistently unless all the other stars align.
     
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  27. Fin D

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    The next time you admit you're wrong will be the first time.
     
  28. Fin-O

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    Except people like Fin D are saying he is a top 5-10 QB. I've seen numerous posters saying he is a top 10 QB. He is an average QB and one reason why the offense is so lackluster.
     
  30. Fin D

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    Learn to read.

    I said last year in between learning the offense and before Albert went down he was a Top 5-10 QB.

    There's a trend with Tannehill haters, they can't read and they pretend they don't make certain stances. Its kinda remarkable just how predictable they are.
     
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  31. Fin-O

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    why did you skip replying to me proving you wrong (again)??
     
  32. Fin D

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    lol, nothing on that list was anything that you actually defended at any point. There was nothing tough about admitting those things (which likely aren't even all that true).

    Take your Tannehill will be Top 10 crap. You've spent a lot of forum real estate talking about his issues real and imagined, then you'd throw in at the end a couple of times...but I hope he gets better (or something similar).

    Its crap. You never really thought he'd get into the Top 10 and we both know it. It would be like if after every 15 th post I made in the PoFo, I said "go republicans", no one would actually believe I was rooting for the Republicans because of the 95% of other stuff I said in there.

    But you're gonna deny it. You're gonna insult me. But I've already proven you're a troll. There is literally no reason to think every post you make isn't you being a troll. You do this, because for some reason you think its fun douching up the place.
     
  33. Fin-O

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    Awwwwww, are you a bit touchy because once again another one of your off the wall accusations was shot down?? Hurts doesn't it..

    Let this be a learning experience for you. Stop making up things and trying to twist EVERYONES (its def not just me) posts to make it say what you want it to say, and I won't have all this ammunition to humiliate you with.

    It's simple.

    Now..go away.
     
  34. Rocky Raccoon

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    Would you two get a damn room already. The make up sex will be out of this world.
     
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  35. Fin D

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    At this rate, by next month you'll deny you've even posted on this forum. Apparently da' Nile is in Ohio.
     
  36. Fin-O

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    After that clever comeback......

    Im going to bed....

    With or without you.
     
  37. adamprez2003

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    wouldnt this have been the more appropriate boomer post since its in a thread debating oline and tannehill and which is more important

     
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  38. jdang307

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    the links are right there. Just silence.
     
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  39. jdang307

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    That was the original post he was asked to post and I have no beef with that. But Boomer specifically said he wanted to see Tanny carry the team on his shoulders a few times. Something a certain clique had ridiculed as nauseam out here in the mains. Not one of them challenged him on that.

    It's right there in my quotes. Also said even though Tanny is not being put in the best position to succeed, he's also not quite performing he best he can with what he's got. His decision making this year has been called into question. His deep pass is now pretty damn good looking but his decision making looks like it's taken a step back. He's got a few years left to prove himself do these Tanny threads are purely academic
     
  40. Fin D

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    Its funny you have no idea what context is. I'd think that would be an important thing to understand being a lawyer.

    He praises Tannehill and reasonably says he can show more. The crap your defending, is essentially ****ting on Tannehill in every manner and saying he never does more.

    In fact, all you've proven, is that we aren't crazed lunatics who can't handle criticism of Tannehill as we are accused of daily, but instead we are what we've told we are numerous times, reasonable fans who won't let some people control the narrative with the utterly stupid notions that the deep ball is all Tanny's fault and that w/l record is a QB stat.

    Soooo, thank you.
     

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