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Will we be able to rebuild the OLine before we have to get rid of Tannehill ?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dolphinzdawgg, Nov 15, 2015.

  1. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    so basically you were wrong about tannehill not wanting to run. its pretty obvious from the article the coaches havent wanted him to run and he's been a good soldier and done what the coaches wanted. so this is no longer a flaw in tannehill's game since the coaches fessed up right?
     
  2. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    because sports writers are the dumbest evaluators of talent the world has ever seen. oh he's on a winning team...must mean he's good....oh he's on a bad team....must mean he's bad.. same with preseason power rankings. lets take 10 of the twelve teams that made the playoffs last year and we will make them the best ten in the rankings. we will pick two 8-8 teams to be our dark horses. at least one of the super bowl participants will be ranked number one. but since alot of posters here have the same simplistic view of the sport it makes sense to be posted here
     
  3. jdang307

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    well the poll of GMs had him around tier 3, ranked pretty low. So ...
     
  4. pumpdogs

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    $97 mil and our qb gets rated 25th.I bought into the hype before the season started and how dissapointing he has become.
     
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  5. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    So there are 24 winning teams in the nfl this year?
     
  6. Fin D

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    Yes Genius, all 60K+ of my posts are about Tannehill.

    No one on this site has argued that QBs are not the most important player. Soooooooo.....

    I very clearly said if Tannehill gets a decent line he could be Top 10 because the last time he had a line playing decently, he was a Top 10 QB. He was consistent when he had a line. Most QBs need a decent line or at least an OC to scheme around a bad one.

    I didn't ask if we replaced Wallace. I asked if the deep ball has improved. And before you miss the point again, "improvement" implies a scale not a destination. Who says I don't expect more?

    Here's the problem, you and your ilk, don't have a firm grasp of reality. See, in the real world, someone can defend a QB against false negative criticism and still recognize that same QB has areas he could actually improve in.

    Hopefully, you'll notice a trend with yourself in our "discussion". You have a real hard time understanding the ability to have multiple thoughts, ideas, things going on, etc.

    Earlier, you couldn't believe that someone could care about what goes on with the board and literally anything at the same time. You can't believe 60K+ posts can be about multiple topics, and finally you can't believe that someone can defend a QB against baseless claims and still think there's actual room for that QB to improve.
     
  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    if tannehill runs more than two or three times a game he will end up on IR like Luck. He's a straight line runner. Those types of runners take hits. The coaching staff was right not letting him run. Now that Campbell is desperate he may let the reigns loose but if he does it too much expect tannehill to end the season in a hospital. the indy coaching staff learned their lesson. they are telling luck to stop running and start using your arm more
     
  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    thats your interpretation of what I wrote?
     
  9. pumpdogs

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    Well I am sure the Gms are all dumb evaluators also.Not quite on par with the posters on this site.
     
  10. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    think how bad green bay fans feel. their qb is worse than newton
     
  11. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    25% of them had tannehill in tier 2. jdang doesnt reveal what doesnt suit him. he's a lawyer. they're sneaky that way :)

    and btw tier 3 would end somewhere around 15-18 so even if he was the worst of tier 3 he would be higher than the amatuers ranks
     
  12. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Lmao! Another lie by the Tannehill crowd. 5th in completion percentage. Lol. They really hope you don't look up the stats to confirm when they tell you he is elite in this and that. Another Tannehill fan told me the packers win without Rodgers after they went 2-6 without him in 2013. And the Pats went to the playoffs in 2008 the year Brady was out with the injury he had. And the Colts win without Luck when they went 2-14 the year before he was drafted. Unless if beating the lowly Titans is winning without Andrew Luck? And the Steelers win without Big Ben. 4-2 with him. 2-2 without. And one of those wins was against the Chargers. And how about these Tannehill fans saying he has SIGNIFICANTLY improved his deep ball throw? Thank you for doing research and bringing up the stats that disprove that ridiculous notion. Even though simply watching the games you should know that. Shouldn't need stats to know that. And his deep ball is even worse when you factor out the big YAC plays in that Texans game with those 3 long plays that were TDs. Anything they say you have to confirm it.
     
  13. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Aaron rodgers has a history of being a great qb and every player can have a down year.Tannehill has proven nothing in this league in 4 years.
     
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  14. BigNastyDB13

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    Funny you don't think it's a far off comparison now. Hmm. Like I said I'm a Mets fan and the mets just so happen to have dominant power pitcher who played in front of the worse middle infield in baseball last year. They had minor leaguers playing 3rd most the season because Wright was hurt (think Albert), they had a 2B playing SS who wasn't good enough to stick at SS in the minors (flores) think Dallas Thomas, they had a 2B who is the worse fielding 2B in baseball since Jeff Kent (Daniel Murphy) . Guess what happened? The team and starters W/L record suffered and they blew 3 leads in the World Series. But...here's the kicker, those starting pitchers were good enough to LEAD their suspect supporting cast to more Wins than losses and even a *Gulp* playoff appearance and N.L. pennant. The least Thill could do in 4 seasons is finish 10-6. He's had his chances late in seasons and has fallen on his face. Will you make excuses for him when he is on another team? Sure he needs help, the problem is he needs more help than we can seem to get him.
     
  15. Fin-O

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    ALOT actually.

    Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Joe Flacco, Derek Carr, Matt Stafford, Drew Brees and Andrew Luck all have worst defenses and running games. Only 5 of those guys are having good seasons but I think these are generally good Qb's...

    I didn't even look up QBs who are CLEARLY better than good (Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Palmer etc)




    Eli
     
  16. AdamC13

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    Do you actually believe the stuff you write?

    Seriously, are you thinking the majority of great QBs play on bad teams and bad QBs play on great teams or...?

    And you think a preseason power ranking should have teams that finished the previous year with 12 or more losses at the top of the rankings and teams that made the playoffs should be at the bottom or...?
     
  17. Unlucky 13

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    I thought that this team record was appropriate in this thread, to remember the good old days:

    MOST CONSECUTIVE GAMES WITH NOSACKS ALLOWED

    19!!!!!!!

    5th through 16th in 1988 and 1stthrough 7th in 1989

    19 games in a row where Marino wasn't sacked! To borrow a line from The Princess Bride, that's inconceivable! We can't go 19 attempts without giving a sack up.
     
  18. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Lmao now they're saying Rodgers is a bad quarterback. Lmao brilliant stuff guys. What material will they come up with next?
     
  19. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i'll go with the 25% who said he was tier 2. your 75% believe in man made global warming, think oliver stone makes great movies and generally smell like hobos
     
  20. Fin-O

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    HUH?? Arod has the 5th best rating, Newton the 21st. But with a guy like Newton thats not indicative of his value as a qb.
     
  21. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    you failed reading comprehension in school didnt you
     
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  22. pumpdogs

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    You said Sports writers are the dumbest evaluators if he is on a winning team he must be good and if he is on a bad team he must be bad.Only 11 winning teams in this league and yet they still rank 13 non winning qbs ahead of him.So whats your point?
     
  23. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Why is it when QBs are mentioned their record as a starter is mentioned as well? But that's not the case when people talk about a MLB, FS, RB, or OL?
     
  24. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    not according to the article pumpdogs said we all should read
     
  25. Phins Up Wins Up

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    You have your tin foil hat on?
     
  26. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    because people who know nothing about football always feel they can comment on QBs without looking foolish. Its a little more difficult for the casual fan to discuss the intricacies of the offensive line let alone they actually have to know their names
     
  27. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    you have your vibrator in?
     
  28. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Casual fans you say? Analyst many of who are former coaches and players bring it up all the time. During games this is brought up all the time. Casual fans huh?
     
  29. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Do you smoke crack or something?The article says he is 5th.And yes this is a down year for rodgers because he is usually top 2.
     
  30. Fin D

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    Jesus, that was a waste of 5 minutes I'll never get back.

    All your links are pointless. They aren't showing what you think they do.

    Try it from this angle, please explain for me what percentage of a win is on the QB. Show your work.

    You want to prove W/L aren't a QB stat? Fine.

    Ask me what these numbers means: 67.6 7, 2

    As for Tannehill last year, stellar job on reading what I wrote. I said between the time he learned the offense and Albert went down. Which leaves these numbers: 109, 83, 123, 73, 125, 81. So, you talk about the average QB rating at the time....wanna take a guess what his average rating was over those games? 99. Now, get you crew together and then compare 87 to 99. You guys talk it through before you answer and take all the time you need, but when you're done, tell me which is higher. K. Thanx. Bye.

    Now the deep ball. That was hilarious. You tried oh so hard to make it sound bad, but even you know it looks better and admitted as such. But then, you lose all the props I was gonna give you by qualifying your stance with "when compared to some of the elite deep passers" bull ****.

    I said he improved. Why would we compare him to anyone other than himself to show he improved? English...do you speak it? Seriously, "improved" is not a big word, you should understand it by this point in your life.

    So, yeah, your whole big triumphant post destroyed in the same amount of time it took to read it. That probably stings.
     
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    lol. so you take that to mean everybody this writer had ranked ahead of tanny was on a winning team lol. holy cow. why did you even think my comments about the writers had anything to do with tannehill. cam newton is number 3. you dont think thats because his team is undefeated? or do you think the writer hunkered down and watched 20 hours of film on every qb on his list. i doubt the guy has even watched every team.
     
  32. BigNastyDB13

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    Lol ok dude. It obviously went way over your head. I said 60k posts couldn't be about multiple topics? I actually said the opposite. You'd think someone who has nothing better to do than live on this forum would know more about the sport and not harp on 3 (which is multiple) topics. Especially with people who see you as a running joke.
     
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  33. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    and cam newton is better than him according to this sage of the pen you trot out
     
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  35. BigNastyDB13

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    Are u going to tell us why the GMs opinion on Thill are irrelevant?
     
  36. Phins Up Wins Up

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    He can't read. Forgive him.
     
  37. Fin D

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    Did you give up on making sense or are you drinking now?
     
  38. BigNastyDB13

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    how convenient that you get to decide the only 6 games of a 3 1/2 career lmao. I'm sure you're the one that called Thill to ask him when he started feeling comfortable and didn't just take his best stretch of his season to say "this is when I determined it's important". Jokes man. You got em.
     
  39. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i agree with the 25% who said he was tier 2
     
  40. Phins Up Wins Up

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    What a come back. Bravo kid.
     
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