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Will we be able to rebuild the OLine before we have to get rid of Tannehill ?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dolphinzdawgg, Nov 15, 2015.

  1. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Shouldn't all of us agree on what we are referencing? Are we talking about how "good" a QB IS or how good he has been halfway through 2015?
     
  2. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Im done this guy is clueless.Unlike some people I have a life and I am not spending the rest of my night online fighting.
    Some people need to go out and find some vagina.
     
  3. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Um he can read fine. Can you guys, the article says this:

    Numbers are hard I know, but tell the class which is higher on the ranking 3 or 5. Don't panic, this is an open book pop quiz. Take your time. I believe in you guys..
     
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  4. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Did they specify what they considered each tier and who was in which? Serious question. Would be a fun read.
     
  5. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Lmao of course. Only the people that agree with you (who are in the minority) are credible sources who know football.
     
  6. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't see the irony.
     
  7. Sceeto

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    So, back to the OP: Will we be able to rebuild the OLine before we have to get rid of Tannehill ?
     
  8. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Lmao! He doesn't know what the word means. I bet he is using Google now. If he knows how to use that.
     
  9. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Well one more post for mister no it all before I leave.Where do you see in any post I mentioned cam newton?Ill answer that nowhere.
     
  10. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    I'm with ya. I have a bunch of work I need to do to get this flip house on the market. I've been dragging my feet because changing light sockets and putting in light fixtures is boring as hell. Good news is I'm real close to getting this bad boy done. Night all
     
  11. Phins Up Wins Up

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    The guy is a joke bro. I'm about to head out myself. College. Got to study.
     
  12. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    WTF are you talking about? That was from the stupid ****ing article you touted. Seriously you guys got problems.
     
  13. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Look how mad he is. Ha ha!
     
  14. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    huh?

    I set those parameters awhile ago and you're only now getting your panties twisted about them?

    Go to bed, the adults are talking.
     
  15. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    good point actually. i think people have different reference points. some take a history into account some are just in the moment. i mean for me you would have to group qbs into groups where they are playing on similar teams. you wouldnt compare a qb with a 25th off line and a 25th defense to a qb with the 3rd best offensive line and a 6th ranked defense
     
  16. Fin D

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    I'm not mad, I'm stumped. I'm not sure how guys get even dressed in the morning.

    the ARTICLE you guys touted listed Cam above Rodgers. Not only do you not understand that, you jumped all over someone who tried to tell you that.
     
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  17. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    yes
     
  18. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    they did specify what each tier meant. dont remember if they had a list or not. maybe jdang can find that list. i dont remember which thread it was in
     
  19. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    You get confused easily. The fact you gotta use a 6 game stretch LAST year when he's played 3 1/2 yrs speaks volumes. The adults are making fun of you. Goodnight
     
  20. AdamC13

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    Only 5 out of the 36 put Tannehill in Tier 2 which is 13.8%

    Just a suggestion...start being honest if you want to be taken even the slightest bit seriously.
     
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  21. Fin D

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    No it doesn't.

    The problem is you don't understand a simple conversation.

    I said when he had an oline that played decent he played at a Top 10 level. I didn't just randomly pull those games up.

    The point, Chucklenuts, is that I said he needs a decent oline. Go back and follow the conversation. This is not that hard, but keep looking silly. Its all good by me.

    By the way, you've argued with me for hours now, didn't you say doing that sort of thing was a waste of time? Also, you never explained how that proves you don't care what I think.
     
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  22. Fin-O

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    Watching the Titans efficiently drive down the field, it really makes me realize just how much of a problem Bill Lazor is. MM is dropping back and delivering...boom boom boom...the pressure doesn't have time to get there rather it would have or not. Good OC's can compensate for OL issues.
     
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  23. Fin D

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    We finally agree.
     
  24. Fin-O

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    Oh FML...
     
  25. Fin D

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    Been doing that for awhile. Its why you call me daddy.
     
  26. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Fixed
     
  27. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it's a total waste of time. Yes, he does need a good oline, along h with a real good running game and receivers who are good at YAC. That's the problem. Jdang, Finster or any of you other Mets fans ever post on Mets boards? If so shoot me a private message. Would love to talk baseball with u guys sometime. Unfortunately, I blew 2k dollars going to Game 1 in KC.
     
  28. adamprez2003

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    i dont think adults use rookie or 2nd seasons when judging fourth year QBs. They tend to improve over that time
     
  29. adamprez2003

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    where is the article. i'll side with 13% if thats the number
     
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  31. AdamC13

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    So in other words, you just pull stuff out of your butt, slant it in your favor, try to pass it off as fact and when someone calls you on it then you throw it on them to do the research you should have done in the first place...what a $*%^!
     
  32. adamprez2003

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    25% 13% its a minority either way. what the hell was made up? what is 25% more respectable for you? you would still side with the 75%. what thread was the article in. there are several poster here who would like to read that article, on your side too
     
  33. AdamC13

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    Pathetic
     
  34. djphinfan

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    no not at all..first off the article talks nothing about unscripted runs..2nd, if you have read previous posts you will always see where I blame the coordinator and the qb..Qb for not knowing when to threaten a defense on his own, and the coordinator for having no sense or feel as to when to run him scripted or when to roll him..basically there are three elements missing from this offense...my point is we sure could use the full arsenal of weaponry..there are no excuses..just mistakes on both parties.
     
  35. djphinfan

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    I understand your pov, but the qb not doing all three is hurting us..he is very good at avoiding hits when in the rare instances he has taken off..and lets be real here Prez, there is no harder hit I've seen taken in the NFL then last week in our end zone..they guy was almost broken in half, it still makes me wince..we have seen many of those hits on strait drop back pocket throws over the 3 and 1/2 years..the worst... we have yet to see a shot like that when on the run in 3 and a half years..so tell me, where does he have more of a chance at getting hurt?, because his season could of easily ended on that play in the end zone and then where would you argument be?..I'll tell ya, Id be right here telling you if we had all three elements in play, it would of lessened his chances of being hurt, and most importantly, slowed down that rush..don't forecast injury to back your claim when we are a losing football team and underperforming offense..
     
  36. BigNastyDB13

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    Who said they didn't improve? I think you missed the point. He's played in what, 57 games? And we re going to pick 6 of those and say "see its a FACT he's a top 5-10 QB". That's why people laugh at his stupidity. He's played in 51 other games. Take the TOTALITY of his career or take JUST THIS SEASON and he comes out looking mediocre. None of us supposed thill haters think Thill is terrible. I think he's very talented, top 12 talent with a bottom 10 mental/intangibles/playmaking ability. Add it all up and you end up with a middle of the pack 19th ranked QB.
     
  37. Fin D

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    One more time, that's not what I said. Seriously, take an English class or something.
     
  38. djphinfan

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    we all know ryan can play better with a very good line..the reason I talk about the things that I do is because thats what I feel its gonna come down to..making plays when protection breaks down in an hostile environment..cause no matter how good that line becomes it will always come down to that.
     
  39. Fin D

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    We've won games even when the protection breaks down. All we're asking for, is for the protection to break down significantly less. No QB thrives in the environment that Tannehill is surviving in.

    Show me one QB that succeeds more than not, with a bad oline and bad OC who neglects the run game (up until this year a bad WR corp too).
     
  40. BigNastyDB13

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    Totally agree DJ. If we re going to be a pathetic offense anyways then what's it matter if he gets hurt? And I tend to think he is less likely to get hurt the more he runs. Get him out of the pocket, either by design or by Thill freelancing and let him buy some time to make plays downfield or take off and pick up a huge 3rd down. Lord knows we aren't efficient at passing on 3rd down. Thill does a good job throwing on the run and most of the time when he does break the pocket good things happen. He literally sticks in 1 spot the majority of the time. He's like Brady in that sense only Brady is a premier decision maker and had mastered that dink n dunk.
     

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