QB option

Moore kind of got nixed in the mix, but the truth is he actually EARNED the starting job and never got his chance.

 

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Dude, this is purely absence makes the heart grow fonder. Matt Moore is not the answer. Although, as I said a week or so ago, I'd like to see Moore get significant play time, just to see what the offense looks like with someone else under center.

Maybe my recollection of Moore is off base.

 

I guess nobody remembers that Moore turned the ball over 6 times in his last 3 starts?

 

Yeah, I mean, there's a reason he became a backup to begin with.

 

Well Matt Moore certainly isn't the answer. Tannehill should get a fifth season, but his leash should be short. Too many unknown circumstances were created this season to make a final call on him. I'm more down on him than I think i've ever been. I don't think he's the answer, but if we go into year five with him as the starter, so be it. I'll always support this team, and if that's the case we'll have tohope he finally gets "it".
I definitely think we need to draft a QB. Not necessarily in the first round, but if a talented name falls to the 3-4th round we should take that player.
Either that or bring in a vet that will push Tannehill and compete with him. Give Tanny a short leash and roll with said Veteran should that occur.

 

Who would be available?

And please not Manning!

 

I don't want to waste second or third round picks on QB. We tried that for like 7 years before finally taking the plunge and going to get Tannehill. If we're going to get a QB in the draft, you need to use whatever resources to go get the best QB in that draft.

If you're not going to do that, then just take oline and defense this upcoming draft, and let Tannehill play out his fifth season, then determine if you still want to sell the farm for a QB in the next draft.

 

Doesn't look to me there is a stud QB in the draft. Maybe Connor Cook? But he is not consistent.

 

we already have a not consistent qb, no thanks.

 

3 seasons !!!!!!!

 

Looking at the free agent list, I wouldn't honestly take any of those guys over Tannehill. That's why I think we roll with him for another year. I think he deserves that fifth year anyway, it's just at this point I know he'll never be a franchise carry us on his back type of QB. That's ok, I just think a lot of us expected more from him this year.

 

Tannehill is about to get his 2nd offensive coordinator fired. Let that sink in.


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And neither one belongs in the NFL.

Let THAT sink in.

 

Yeah also Tom Brady Rodgers and co get crappy offensive coordinators head coaching jobs. At least they are good enough to get those guys better jobs for awhile. Our qb just gets coaches fired. He's a joke.


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Again, he gets coaches fired who have no business in the NFL.

Do you know where Sherman is now?

Didn't think so.

#notinnfl

 

The idea that Tannehill is getting viable offensive coordinators fired is staggeringly dense.

 

oh, so not only does tannehill have to play perfect and win to make up for our shi t defense and special teams but he now has to get his coaches other jobs to be considered good.

 

I'd agree with this.

That "coverage" sack yesterday in the fourth, that led to Campbells boneheaded decision to punt with 6 minutes left... Classic example. He had time. Plenty of time. An eternity really. He stands there. Everyone is covered. He stands there. Dallas Thomas finally gets beat (shocking, I know, but he held up for more than long enoguh), Tannehill senses it way too late, tries to escape, but it's too late and down he goes. If he moves once he recognizes nobody is open, the WR's can move with him, someone might shake free. Someone my leave their coverage assignment in fear of Ryan scrambling for positive yards which may open up someone downfield. DO SOMETHING. Don't just stand there. He shouldn't need a coach of any caliber to tell him that. That's instinct. Something that it appears he's severely lacking.

 

I guess nobody remembers that because it didn't happen. I think you're thinking of Tannehill earlier this season with his 5 game multi-turnover streak, or maybe even his safety streak. Or maybe just his strip-sack streak....it's hard to keep up with him setting so many of those NFL records in such a short span of time.

But yeah, Moore's last three games- two wins with a 95+ QBR and a loss to New England.

 

Once again another made up stat by the Tannehill crowd. Thanks for double checking on that to see what really happened.

 

actually on the replay they showed Still running wide open down the field and the TE was opened on a curl route, but Tannehill decided to take the sack.

 

I'm tired of Tannehill and the excuses every single week. He just doesn't get it and won't. I keep wanting to like him, but he does nothing to make me change. Locks on to receivers, cannot scan the field. Decides who or where he is going to throw the ball before the play even starts. 4th quarter he gets that insane sack he took. Another play he stands there 3rd and long. I'm thinking throw it "deep" maybe you get the first down, maybe you get a penalty for a first, maybe it gets INT and it works as a punt, but no he does his normal 4 yard pass play.

Anything over 3rd and 3 with him I give up hope of a 1st down occurring.

QB's all around the league pick up long 3rd downs and or escape to make something out of nothing. He basically does nothing to help his team win.

I would love to see Moore get a shot the rest of the way. One thing it would answer for sure is if it is the QB or not.

 

IF we do worse with Moore, it won't answer how much of our troubles are due to the QB, unless you're interested in how much worse the offense could get with a worse QB (that's assuming we do worse with Moore). It's only if we do much better that it would quiet some of this Tannehill debate.

Thing is.. I think we do at best the same with Moore (and very possible worse), so playing him I doubt would answer much of anything regarding Tannehill.

 

I think we do better with Moore. He is Moore of a leader, seems to see things quicker, is willing to throw the ball down the field. I think we score at least a TD more per game which would translate into more pressure on the other team. If this occurs then you know it is Tannehill. If not then you can still point to the OL as the issue.

 

The sad thing is next year we will roll with tannehill again and the avid supporters will say his shortcomings are due to a new system and he needs time. I used to have faith that he would get it, but I don't see it anymore.

 

Agreed. But you know how the blame game works. GM, HC, OC, DC, QB, whoever has the longest tenure is the fall guy.

 

Matt Moore is a career backup. He lead us to a few wins in a lost season and people thought he was something. When did he take over and lead us to a fourth quarter victory when Tannehill was hurt?

 

I think Moore's personality lights more of a fire under guys' asses and he's definitely willing to take more shots downfield to let some of these newly acquired "larger catch radius" guys go up and make a play, something more often than not Tanny refuses too do.

The problem with him is that he'll serve up a stupid pass here and there in process. He's a guy you don't want high volume when it comes to attempts. If we pounded teams with Miller/Ajayi, I have no doubt he could take advantage of the playaction ...... but we don't run that kind of offense. I don't even know what to call the crap we see out there.

 

Recheck your stats. Falco, wasn't simply talking about INTs when he said that Moore "turned the ball over 6 times". Moore has always been fumble and mistake prone.

In that loss to the Pats you mention, he threw an INT, but fumbled 3 times. In the other 2 games, he threw 2 INTs against the jets, and had another fumble against the bills.

In total for 2011, Matt Moore started 12 games in relief of an injured Ched Henne. Moore finished the season with 16 TDs, 9INTs, and 14 FUMBLES throughout the season.

Moore is a back up for a reason. No thanks.

 

KeyFin was wrong. No one made up anything.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia/2011.htm

 

Nevermind thill sunshine pumpers you all are right. He is awesome! All the wins he has. All the playoff appearances! You're right!


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Yet we're the ones supposedly being condescending and argumentative.

This place has become our worst nightmare.

Finheaven.

 

There def is some piling on happening, I on the other hand am not happy that my evaluation of him has been so accurate, i would've gladly ate a large serving of crow and had the Dolphins have an upper echelon QB.

Nobody should be happy they were right about Ryan not being a franchise qb, because the losers are our fav team.

 

Our QB is 9th in the nfl in yards, 11th in tds, and he's the 4th most sacked man in the league. Which is, unbelievably, an improvement from years past.

Our QB is, roughly, sitting in the 10-15 range. AND that's with a coaching change, poor oline, and bad playcalling.


Tannehill is just not the failure you all want him to be...It'd be easier if he was

 

That's the bottom line.

 

Yards is about as good of a measuring stick for a QB as what color his socks are. Watch the games....how and when are those yards accumulated?How many were impactful? How many attempts does he have by comparison? Those numbers mean absolutely nothing. This isn't baseball.

And define failure...we invested a high pick and a lot of money in him and for basically nothing. What do you call it.

 

In the same sentence you say rodgers is so good he gets a crappy OC an HC gig....

You...you kno who that crappy OC was right?

How can you, in the same post, point out that Philbin was a terrible coach and then blame Tannehill for getting him and the idiot OCs he picked fired???