I don't think anybody is being sensitive. Rocky is just sick of it and I don't blame him. I don't take offense to anything fin D says and I doubt if u, finster, Jdang or Sexton do either. He can be condescending all he wants but if he keeps showing a lack of respect and intelligence toward everyone who disagrees with him, which is basically everyone but Resnor then he's going to get the same disrespect back. He's free to his opinion but for a 41 year old he lacks many of the things he calls others out for. It does get old though. Thill needs to start playing lights out or baseball needs to get here soon. Unless you're a Marlins fan, then you don't have much to look forward to thanks to Loria. I agree it's time to move on tho
Ya man...asking somebody's occupation, as if it has anything to do with discussions about the team, is the example of maturity too right? Pot...kettle? Lotsa guilty parties...on both sides of the argument...myself included.
Interesting tidbit. Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline, Charles Clay. How are they doing without Tannehill? Not good. Ghosts.
His numbers are on par with last year. Slightly worse, but not overwhelmingly worse like his former receivers.
As for Lazor, we have struggled as an offense all year. Where are the adjustments? He hasn't changed anything to help the unit. He still doesn't want to run the ball. He still won't design more plays involving Tannehill's legs. He still doesn't do enough protection wise. He acts as if the offense is a well-oiled machine. It's not. Yet he doesn't change anything.
His "numbers" are a result of multiple check downs for the most part. He needs a Mike Wallace right now, and a Mike Wallace needs him. They both have had terrible years.
Also, not surprisingly those 4 games were Tannehill's best games of the year. The real culprit is Lazor. I can't wait until he is gone. I actually miss Dan Henning.
I agree. Well, not about the Dan Henning part lol. But yeah, we need better coaching on that side of the ball.
Our offense is scoring 5 less points per game this season, we had a bad OL and rarely ran the ball then either. Taking away Charles Clay and Mike Wallace may have not been as wise as some want to believe, Ryan looked better throwing to those 2 than ANYONE this year. Also we have Bill Lazor who appears to be getting dumber with age, but GD....5 less PPG!
Pretty good is fair. My point is everyone assumed losing Wallace was addition by subtraction....they were wrong. The goofball himself MR Joe Philbin cost us another one. You don't take a 114.9 rating and 10 TDs away from your QB and think everything will be fine.
That's a very interesting point. For all the lack of chemistry those two had downfield, (which i think is safe to say never happened because of the inaccuracy tannehill showed deep last year combined with Wallace and his struggles to locate and adjust to the ball) it really shows that Wallace appears to have done a bit better job keeping defenses honest than Kenny stills has this year. We're seeing better drop connections this year, that to me, still look inaccurate at times, but stills and Landry are doing a better job adjusting. Some of the they're have been better too. I think it's a combination. The loss of clay had obviously been huge. There's no other way to put it. It's very fair and realistic to look at the the loss of both these guys, and if it's contributed to our struggles. We may not have connected deep with Wallace enough for a variety of reasons, but I think we're seeing the value he brought to the offense without even being a target on some plays though. To say that Tannehill, and Wallace miss each other and needed one another, even if it didn't always end up in a drop connection, it seems very valid. I'm not sure the two ever would have became that deep connection we all thought, or wanted, but it still has/had an impact. It may not have been effective much longer if that deep connection allways failed, but who knows. Either way, very interesting point to look at. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
20 pages after our qb posts yet another 90+ rating, lmfao...if this isn't proof of troll conspiracy I don't know what is. I expect future gifs of Tannehill to be laden with subliminals like "your quarterback sucks!" You know, sometimes you have to recognize the other team making plays, also.
Here's something interesting...Miami is 31st in third down conversion. Miami is 11th in average yards per play. We're 31st in rush attempts per game.
Why does it matter so much? You shouldn't be setting yourself for 3rd and longs anyway. Offense shoots themselves in the foot and don't make enough plays so they continue to see 3rd and longs. It's still an indictment on the offense.
It matters alot, since one of the complaints lodged against Tannehill repeatedly is third down performance. We'd like to know what he's being asked to do on third down.
It's his fault for setting himself up in that position. If he made more plays he wouldn't see 3rd and longs. The best QBs aren't wasting 1st and 2nd down. They set themselves up for success on 3rd down. Play better and you won't see the 3rd and longs. Who's fault is that? You really think this exempts Tannehill from his bad 3rd down conversions? Lol
In 2014, Tannehill's average 3rd down distance-to-go was 7.4 yards: http://www.footballperspective.com/which-passers-were-most-effective-on-third-down-in-in-2014/ If you're wondering how that compares to everyone else (they have that in the table also), the mean of that distribution is 7.45 and the standard deviation is 0.5. So Tannehill's average 3rd down distance-to-go was average for the league.
Seeing as we run the ball pretty well when we do run it, it would seem that any 3rd and long situations are caused by something in the passing game.
Uh, we have plenty of penalties setting us back. And it was dumb because he's, again, putting it all on QBs.
Here is where I'm going to agree with you and at the same time, shift the blame from Tannehill, (which you seem to be one that enjoys using him as a punching bag) and assign the blame to where is truly belongs...Bill Lazor. I posted this earlier in this thread. Last Sunday's game against Dallas; -Miami's first play from scrimmage; hand off to Miller up the middle for 12 yards and a 1st down -Miami's second play from scrimmage; hand off to Miller for 9 yards; 2nd down and 1 to go. With that level of production in just 2 plays, Miller will be handed the ball only 5 more times throughout the entire game Ajayi will only touch the ball 4 times the entire game. We have beasts of running backs that are producing when they are given the ball but they aren't being given the ball and who does that fall on? Bill Lazor who wants to throw, throw, throw. Lazor is setting Tannehill up for... -3rd and long -league leading most sacked quarterback -interceptions If I'm an opposing team's DC, I'm telling my unit to be patient. Don't let their running backs break out in any long runs; if they rush for 10-15 yards, no big deal, Miami won't stay with the run, just contain their running game the best you can; I'm disguising coverages, blitzes and reiterating being patient...Tannehill will make a mistake because he's not an elite NFL passing quarterback and Lazor is trying to make him be one. Yes, Miami shouldn't be putting themselves in 3rd and long situations consistently, but they consistently do so because of the inept play calling by their offensive coordinator.