if it was mike wallace on that play he would have run out of bounds and the ball would probably have been intercepted
Not quite a fair statement since we took Landry when Robinson off the board. If I had my way though we'd have taken Robinson where we took James (that wouldn't have precluded us from taking Landry, but we likely wouldn't have), and this year we wouldn't have taken Parker.
It wasn't a good throw and Landry should have caught it. Not sure what else there is to discuss about the play. Yet again everyone wants a single scapegoat when in reality, it's never just one guy.
Let's move on to another throw after we have determined fair and square that the Landry throw was a negative for Ryan..
I don't understand how people can watch this and think we need another quarterback. He is capable. He is NOT Aaron Rodgers, but he'll do.
Very fair. We traded down remember? In fact we traded down twice. Allen Robinson was there after our first trade down.
Dude you need to rewatch it. I understand you're going to defend Tannehill no matter what, but you're fighting a losing battle here. First, Landry had his man beat by at least 3 steps. He has to wait up for the ball. The defender is swiping at Landry's arms before it even gets there. Landry still gets his hands on the ball and the ball doesn't come out until Landry hits the ground. So you're 100% wrong and don't make me do a series of screenshots because I'm really lazy. But I will unless you concede you're completely wrong.
do the screen shots or get the replay the showed during the game. i'm going off the replay that i remember. a photo doesnt do it
JD is 100% right on this, the ball doesn't come out until they hit the ground, with the DB yanking on his arm the entire time, there is zero blame on Landry, he possibly could have held on, but you can't blame him for not holding on, the DB is pulling on his right arm, and his left arm hits the ground, that's just too much to ask of any WR, if he makes that catch it's spectacular, that is a pass break up by the DB, not a drop by Landry.
Ok. So now we have three viewpoints. This play is turning into a football version of Rashoman. my recollection of the replay was the pass hit both of landry's hands and was dropped before the contact ever came. Now the angle was completely different. But it was a perfect shot of his hands and upper body. Look i don. 't even blame Landry for dropping the pass. It happens. I don't expect perfection out of our players. But people shouldnt be blaming Tannehill. it was a good pass. was it perfect no but it got the ball to landry's hands.
A good pass would've been a huge play and likely a TD. If you want to say it wasn't a BAD pass because i hit his hands then so be it. But if thats a GOOD pass? Your standards may need reevaluated.
I don't have another version, I'm agreeing with JD, but I love the Rashomon reference, lol, can't go wrong with Kurosawa sama and Mifune san, but you can go to the first comment of this thread and see the play, it's pretty early, just before the pick six.
Landry has the guy beat. Tannehill under throws him forcing Landry to wait for the ball. Gives defensive back enough time to make a play on the ball. Great throw. I like jump balls better rather than hitting him in stride for a TD. Lmao are you guys serious? Question though. Did he not under throw the guy forcing him to wait for the ball?
We did pass up on Robinson, but we didn't pass up on him for Landry. We passed on whatever pick we had to acquire others, not specific players. This isn't passing on Ziggy Ansah for Dion Jordan.
Oh okay, I'll cut you some slack then I thought you watched the video that is the reason this thread was created? It's about a 41 seconds in. Just check the first post it's in there. Hell, here it is: https://vid.me/cUGZ 41 seconds in.
Yeah, the ball comes out when he hits the ground, but, I still feel like he should have caught it, even if the ball wasn't where it should have been.
ive seen the play. the angle jd is using sucks. its from behind. during the game they had an angle from the opposite sideline that was zoomed in on the hands and upper body. there was no contact that i remember and the ball just went through his hands. if someone has a recording of the game and wants to send it to me i will make the gif from it
Thanks for posting.. yeah I agree Tannehill's pass wasn't good because Landry had the guy beat. I also think Landry should have caught the pass though it seems like the DB makes a good play.
whoever made that needs to go back to the game footage and include the slo mo zoom in from the opposite sideline that clearly shows landry dropping it before he gets contact
Yeah DBs get paid too. Tannehill could've thrown it a bit more out in front, Landry could've caught it, a play was there to be made and the DB stepped up, it happens.
exactly. i have zero beef with landry on that one. i have zero beef with tannehill too on that one. it happens
Well, I have beef that Tannehill underthrew it. A better throw is an uncontested completion, perhaps even a td. It's not the end of the world, all QBs miss throws. But Tannehill definitely wishes he could throw that one again.
Yes yes. Tannehill needs to move more. He's very athletic and should be utilized as such. Just sitting back in the pocket results in way too many 10-12 yards sacks, basically killing the drive. And it seems most of our sacks are at least 10 yards, not 3 or 4.
He's athletic but not very agile. Go look at the read option at 30 seconds on the original video. I see a very stiff athlete.
For all his athleticism, he's kind of robotic when he has to run, which is a sign that he isn't aware of where things are, it makes you stiff, I think he's a better athlete than he shows in games, but the fact he doesn't/can't show it in games is what I worry about. Although you may be right, he just may be a stiff athlete, lacking agility as you say.
I have to agree. But in the past we had great success with that read option, when used sparingly. I'm not so sure why it isn't working now.
All true points. That being said, I would like to see him roll out and extend plays when the pressure is coming at him. Granted, sometimes there isn't time and the sack is inevitable even with Michael Vick in his running prime, but there are so many instances when he could have extended the play even if it was just to buy time to throw the ball away and save 10 yards.
