Armando Stirring the Pot with the Tannehill Debate

It's marginally realistic because a highly drafted QB will free up $15M in cap space in 2017. I think it's unlikely they draft one high, but there is plenty of reason why they could.

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It's not impossible from a financial standpoint, no, but then there's all the other factors. It's bad and/or unlikely from a football standpoint, from an internal politics standpoint, from a PR standpoint, etc.

This is if anything posturing from a coaching staff that knows that they need to be worrying about finding new jobs soon. This is almost certainly straight from Bill Lazor, who has now almost certainly come to the realization that there are pretty much no scenarios in which he is retained, and a lot of issues are going to be laid at his feet.

 

i feel sry for our qb. he hasnt been placed in a good position since he has been here. we have a coaching staff that preaches the run game but totally refuse to run the ball. other teams know we refuse to run so we become one demensional. i am actually surprised that he is still alive playing behind one of the worst o line in dolphins history. i have much respect for our qb. thats one tough son of a .... any other qb would have folded by now. the whole coaching staff needs to go before he finally wilts away or worse yet gets killed back there.its all on the play calling.

 

i keep thinking of david carr and how the texans completely ruined him. tannehill is one of the toughest qbs i have ever seen. this guy could have played in the 70s

 

"We love that Memphis QB but we'll see what happens." THE STATEMENT IS ALMOST ADMITTING THAT THEY ARENT DRAFTING HIM. IT'S SAYING THAT YEAH WE LIKE THE GUY BUT THINGS WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE FOR US TO DRAFT HIM

No Im not yelling ....damn caps

You would probably get the same quote about a few wide receivers in this draft

 

when will it end?

 

I like Tannehill...now having said that what could we realistically get for him in a trade? A 1st? If so that's interesting, we get a key piece to use on Ryan's replacement and we still have our own 1st rounder to improve the team elsewhere.

 

The front office in this case consists of Tannebaum and Hickey. Tannebaum is the same guy who gave Mark Sanchez a huge contract with the Jets because he thought Sanchez was the long term answer with the Jets.

Hickey has been here for two years and the overall talent on the roster hasn't improved with him as the GM and Tampa Bay never had a top tier QB in the nearly 20 years he assisted with their draft.

In this case, I will go with the view of the coaches who work with Tannehill on a daily basis. I agree with their assessment that Tannehill is nothing but a game manager type QB and he is not the type QB who can consistently perform without great talent around him.

To me he is in the bottom half of the starting QB's in the NFL and I really don't think Tannebuam is smart enough as a football talent evaluator to realize this.

I would hope that Ross is smart enough to clean house after this season and that cleaning should start with getting rid of Tannebaum and Hickey and bringing in someone who actually knows how to judge NFL talent, especially at the QB position.

 

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Long term or short term, Eli, Drew Brees, Romo, Rivers are all better options than Tannehill who is in the same tier as Alex Smith.

I rather have 2-3 years of Drew Brees than deal with Tannehill till 2020 waiting for him to learn how to play quarterback.

 

As he has proven in the past Ross is not smart enough to clean house and we will be stuck with another 3rd choice coach that nobody else wants.

 

Yeah every other quarterback has all the pieces set around them. Poor Tannehill.

 

Surprised nobody has brought that up earlier. He also took Sanchez 5th overall.

 

the ones in the playoffs do

 

Hahaha. What context?

 

Yeah, none of the anti-Tannehill guys will answer me, but I'll ask again: what QB of a successful team is saddled with deficiencies on every part of the team like Tannehill is with the Dolphins? Which team is average to bad at every part of the team, but is winning games and getting to the playoffs?

 

Probably because it wouldn't matter what anyone said, the teams that fit your criteria have been argued, and you will deny, or make excuses, so it's just a waste of time, but I'm speaking for myself and just guessing that others share that opinion.

 

matt stafford was gone already. he drafted the second best qb in the 2009 draft.

 

there is none. the disconnect is amazing but they hold to it because its easier than admitting they're wrong.

 

Our biggest problem: play calling by the OC
Our 2nd biggest problem: the QB making so many bad decisions (has the physical tools but not the brains)

I think while OL is a problem it's not as big a problem as our QB. Why does Tannehill not roll out and give himself space and time? Why not throw it away instead of taking a sack? Why throw it to a receiver behind the line of scrimmage (or near it) that's clearly just about to get hit? Yeah.. I'm coming around to saying Tannehill is a bigger issue for this team than the OL, which obviously needs fixing itself.

 

Actually Luck took a bad Colts team to the playoffs for the last three years. Peyton Manning took a very average Broncos team to the playoffs the past three years. Without Rothliesberger and Rogers, the Steelers and the Packers would not be playoff caliber teams.

The fact is Tannehill is being paid as if he is one of these top tier type QB. When in fact he is nothing but a mediocre QB at best and more likely, a below average QB in the NFL.

Tannehill is consistently outplayed in games by opposing QB's who are suppose to be inferior to him. In fact he is probably the worst starting QB in the AFC East at this time.

 

Don't worry Tannehill has them right where he wants them

 

You surround Tannehill with very good WR's and RB's and still the offence sucks.

 

It comes down to Tannehill or Lazor. One of them is holding this offence back from putting points on the board.

 

What happens when the QB is one of the holes

But you want to agree with the evaluation by the guys who saddled this team with so many holes.

 

It's his first OC, it's Wallace, it's Philbin, it's the OLine, it's the WRs, it's the RBs, it's the defense, it's the new OC.

 

You forgot it was Ireland for a long time remember?

 

This team is deficient at every position group on the field including QB. Yes, he would look better with better players around him but at the same time, he isn't a top 10-15 QB. You can't win a football game when you play as poorly as he did today when the game mattered. I'm starting to believe he is too inconsistent and just doesn't have the intangibles of awereness, leadership, reading the defense and understanding of the game to be a top 10 QB.

 

Its funny how people say Andrew Luck is the next big thing in this league, and this season he went 2-5 as Starting QBm where Matt Hasselbeck is 4-0 as a starter, so is Andrew Luck the reason they lost all those games is it time the Colts move on? Tannehill needs a kick in the ***, but honestly, I dont want to give up on him just yet. Plus, who is out there? Who would you take right now as our starting QB going into next season, realistically, over Tannehill? Who? Moore? please

 

Ryan will be the QB next year unless whoever we draft unseats him early. But in 2017 when we can get out of that god awful contract??? He likely will be given a pink slip, barring some unforeseen play from Ryan in 2016. And Im not talking about throwing for 250 yards and 2 Tds in mop up time.

 

Have any one of those first couple aspects given you any inclination whatsoever that Tannehill let them down?

Mike Sherman is getting his *** kicked as a high school head coach.

Mike Wallace is likely to be looking to regain his 2010 form on his 4th NFL team, and has less deep production than virtually everyone on the Vikings and Dolphins this year catching passes.

Joe Philbin isn't likely going to be employed as anything other than an executive secretary with a fancy title in the NFL ever again.

Do I really even need to go into the offensive line? Because I can, at length.

 

this has been proven to be a false myth. All those teams were much better than what we have

 

here is the biggest problem dolphins fans have. they actually think every week they have a chance to win. i fell into the same trap today. we have an offensive line and defense thats ranked in the 20s. we go into every game mismatched and undermanned. the biggest problem miami has is the disconnect between the fans expectations and the reality of the personnel that are playing every week