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Would you be willing to trade Tannehill for a 1st rounder?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by LBsFinest, Dec 5, 2015.

Would you trade Tannehill for a 1st??

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Only for a top 15 pick

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  1. cbrad

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    And it was tragic the Dolphins had multiple opportunities to get Brees, from the draft (I still remember that.. wanted Brees and we took Jamar Fletcher!!!) and from FA. Man, this franchise would've probably had at least one Super Bowl win in the last 15 years if that one mistake wasn't made.
     
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  2. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    I've posted plenty of stats before on several occasions and made several arguments but I'm still called a troll.


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  3. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    While I agree that Idra's post was uncalled for, there have been many here who did think Tannehill looked like **** all along (myself included). And those folks have tried to have a conversation about it for four years stating things like-

    - Overall accuracy
    - QR rating in December
    - QB rating on 3rd/4th down
    - Ability to finish game-winning drives
    - Ability to sense/escape pressure
    - Ability to hit receivers in stride, etc. etc.

    Many of the folks posting in this very thread were the same ones flaming the ever-loving crap out of us for the above observations. It is sort of hard to let go of THOUSANDS of instances of being called names for sharing an opinion; especially one that turned out to be 100% right. Or did we forget about the pact to "flame people who don't like Tannehill until they quit coming here"? Because that's four years we could have enjoyed with our Fins brethren if not for the blind haters.

    Directly calling people out would be wrong, but several here owe the community an apology. Not for being wrong; but for being a total jerk to others while being wrong as well.
     
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  4. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I'm always personally attacked by several posters. Tends to be the same ones but still.

    It bothers me and others when we hear comparisons that are just stupid. So when I drill it into people's heads and point out "worse" QBs could do the same things as Tannehill, I'm called a troll, I'm told to get a life, my fandom is questioned, my literacy and intelligence are questioned, just everything.

    Then we see clear evidence on several occasions today that they're wrong.

    People here are toxic and can't stand when they're wrong. Then they can't take it after they dish it.

    Learn to take criticism. Learn to admit when you're wrong. Then maybe we can have a better community of posters.


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  5. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Well If any team is stupid enough to offer a first rounder for tannehill im all for it.I just watched the other qb who earned a big contract this year and he threw 5 tds in a shootout to bring his team to 12-0.
    Kudos to panthers with money well spent.Panthers defence played like **** but the 2015 mvp played like a true franchise qb and carried his team.When has tannehill ever carried this team in 4 years?
     
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  6. CaribPhin

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    Do you watch CFB? Lynch, Goff, Cook are all great prospects with guys like Brissett not too far behind.
     
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  7. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    You are better off not posting on anymore tannehill posts because trust me you will keep having the arguments with the same posters over and over again calling you a troll etc.
    Sooner or later you type the wrong thing and get banned its not worth it.
     
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  8. jw3102

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    I agree that a 2nd round pick would be the absolutely best pick they could get for Tannehill. Because of his huge contract for any team wanting him for more than one season, I think a third or fourth round pick is all another team might be willing to give the Dolphins for him.

    I think any team looking for a young QB in the first round of the draft, they would be better off taking one in this years draft instead of trading for Tannehill. Because at this point these younger QB's appear to have more upside than Tannehill going forward.

    I believe that by 2017, Tannehill will be no more than a backup in the NFL and I don't think he will any longer be a Miami Dolphin.
     
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  9. finsfandan

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    Good advice. I should listen to it.

    It's sad that I'm the enemy despite all the personal attacks against me but if it were to happen, I guess we'd be under mob rule. I've reported all the personal attacks so that's on my side.


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  10. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I used to get sucked into these debates but its not worth it.I have my opinion on tannehill and they have theirs.Nothing either side is going to say will change the others opinion.
    Time will tell if tannehill is still around in 2017 or not.
     
  11. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    You're completely right. Us going on and on when we don't need to is like throwing a slant as opposed to running a HB draw for a SB win.


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  12. KeyFin

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    I have too when they attacked me, and I guarantee that we were reporting the exact same 4-5 people. But notice that they suddenly stopped posting in this thread as soon as I mentioned their "pact" to ignore the site's rules and harass any anti-Tannehill fan until they quit posting here....so don't expect to ever hear "I'm sorry" from any of them. But they know who they are and hopefully their abuse to the community is finally over.
     
  13. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    One poster in particular has continued to personally attack me after this post but I'll just keep reporting him. Luckily he's the most extreme Tannehill supporter so I know I'm not in the wrong.

    Edit: make that two posters. They're obsessed with me.

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  14. BicketyBam

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    I'd be extremely upset if the Jets gave up a #1 for Tannehill. And that's not because I think he sucks, but he certainly isn't worth a #1. Plus I love the heart of Fitzpatrick. He has plenty of limitations, but the guy has the heart of a lion.

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  15. pumpdogs

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    I would say at this point fitz and taylor are better qbs than tannehill.
     
  16. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Lets face it, the guy is also better than Tannehill. No need to sugar coat it.


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  17. BicketyBam

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    If true, it isn't by much. Physically, RT is more gifted. Neither throw a great deep ball. Both can run, but Fitzpatrick has better pocket awareness. I also believe that Fitzpatrick is a better leader, but he has a lot more experience than RT.

    I don't think many teams fans would take Fitzpatrick over their current starter. He is the definition of average. That said, he is winning me over and he's been the most likeable Jets QB since Chad Pennington. He was clutch yesterday. First time I've seen him will the Jets to a win.

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  18. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    What are you talking about?
     
  19. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    Of course he & his group don't watch the college games. They have to be "told" who's good. To be so adamant about believing there's no prospects out there better than THill yet not watching a single snap is beyond puzzling.
     
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  20. Vertical Limit

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    CaribPhi even left out Brandon Doughty - which is my favorite prospect.. This draft class is deep as **** at quarterback.
     
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  21. DolphinGreg

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    You must factor in experience.

    Fitzpatrick is a 10-year NFL veteran.

    In his first 6 seasons he averaged a 72 passer rating.

    Over the last 4 seasons that's risen to an 87 rating.

    The last 2 seasons he's averaged a 92 rating.

    Experience matters people.


    Tannehill is doing in 3.5 years what it took Fitzpatrick nearly 8 to accomplish. If you look at Fitz' 4th season as a started he threw 23 interceptions and had a 79 rating.

    You guys just aren't fair.
     
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  22. dolphin25

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    I LOVE Doughty!! Went to watch him play again this past weekend. He can do it all. Great leader, great guy, studies film..... love him
     
  23. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    This has essentially been the argument going on 4 years.
     
  24. DolphinGreg

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    It's fine to knock him. Let's just stay legit about it.

    Like I said, the lack of effort in the criticism is what gets me. Just Google this stuff guys.
     
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  25. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yes.

    For instance, I remember, Greg, when you and I definitely did not get along, mostly from my end. I really felt that you were just kind of doing the same sort of criticism that others do. However, I realized that you were not doing that. We are actually able to have good discussions, and probably agree on more than we disagree.

    I have always had an issue with the unwarranted criticisms of Tannehill, or the extrapolating that occurs.

    I have zero issue with appropriate criticism of Tannehill.
     
  26. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Who determines what is appropriate?
     
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  27. Stringer Bell

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    You're about two years too late. Tannehill is in Beck/Henne territory. You're not going to get insightful debate at this point because everything was discussed ad nauseum in the past.

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  28. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    And in both instances the "realist" turned out to be right.
     
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  29. Fin-O

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    Bahahahaha!!

    You grasp on the coat tails of anything to try and save face at this point. In life it is better to fail forward.


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  30. Fin-O

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    Fair? Why should I have to throw in semantics to say Fitzpatrick is a better QB than Ryan?? Why do I have to have "yeah but's"?? I dont.

    We are talking about an undrafted Ivy leaguer vs what some ppl around here claimed was the next Aaron Rodgers....yet I should have to sugarcoat my statement?

    I dont think so.

    Ryan doesnt deserve any more excuses in my book, he gets plenty as it is.


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  31. Vertical Limit

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    it's never appropriate... guy had a great game yesterday because he made one deep throw to Parker,...
     
  32. Bumrush

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    Oh and he also eats up far more salary cap than most bottom tier QBs. You have to factor the big contract in a capped NFL world. He is producing at a level similar to Brian Hoyer and below scrubs like Tyrod Taylor that make a fraction of what he makes.
     
  33. miami365

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    Rodgers had 77 yards in week 10 on more attempts, it happens even to future Hall of Famers. Can we just let the season play out before running people out of town. People were calling for Tannehill to be benched after week 3 last year and he ended up having a pretty good season so let's see if he improves over the last four.
     
  34. Stringer Bell

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    You are comparing Tannehill to a journeyman QB - that should say everything. They are playing at the same level, but one costs a lot more.
     
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  35. dolphin25

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    comparing Rogers to Tannehill? That cannot be serious.
     
  36. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Appropriate, like, not blaming Tannehill for all the issues with the team.
     
  37. miami365

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    And if I wrote Sanchez has had sub 100 yard games that would be any better. Had you read properly my point was bad individual performances happen, the D bailed us out for a change lets see how the next four play out.
     
  38. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Who are you going to get to replace him that is a proven NFL QB?
     
  39. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Nobody is doing that.
     
  40. RevRick

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    Bull Roar. Put him behind an EFFECTIVE Offensive Line with an EFFECTIVE coach....(probably somewhere else since we have not had either in Miami since Shula retired) and we will be looking at him winning all the games you local pundits think he should be winning by himself here for other teams - perhaps in our own division. Keep stirring the pot, and we will be doing the same thing we did after Marino retired for another twelve years and looking stupid doing it. Whoopee.
     
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