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Am I the only one who thinks we should not re-sign Lamar Miller

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Newmpiece, Dec 23, 2015.

  1. Newmpiece

    Newmpiece Banned

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    Sure he is a good running back but not a great one and with all the money committed to Tannehill and Suh we simply can't afford to pay him. I think Ajayi can put up similar if not better numbers if given the opportunity. Any money we can spend in free agency should be spent on the offense line with the majority of our draft picks devoted to rebuilding one of the worst defenses in the league. It will take several years to turn this thing around so there's no use wasting money on players like Miller now
     
  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    On a team almost devoid of real talent (outside of Tannehill, Suh, R Jones, Landry) I wouldn't be turning away someone who's a potential top 5-10 talent at his position.
     
  3. Dolphin Dundee

    Dolphin Dundee Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it matters anymore. If we keep him we overpay than hardly use him.Why run when got an elite QB leading the way?
     
  4. dullfandan

    dullfandan Active Member

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    I love Miller but rbs are a dime a dozen, if we continue to be pass happy he is expendable
     
  5. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yes, probably you are.
     
  6. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    Who would you consider to be the best RBs in the league going forward?

    Jamaal Charles
    Todd Gurley
    LeVeon Bell
    Adrian Peterson
    Doug Martin
    Lesean McCoy
    Lamar Miller

    Give or take a couple guys? I mean he's borderline elite right now and 24 years old.

    I also think that expecting Ajayi to match Lamar is asking a lot. I like Ajayi, but Lamar is fantastic.
     
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  7. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    You need a multidimensional offense. Passing so much hasn't worked and probably never will.
     
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  8. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    um, how do you know he isn't great? WE NEVER RUN THE BALL TO KNOW
     
  9. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    I think the better question is why wouldn't you want to keep a RB who's averaging almost 5 yards per carry behind the sh**iest OL in the NFL?
     
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  10. caliphinfan

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    well history shows we dont keep talent, so i wouldnt be surprised if he isnt resigned. we always let players with potential walk. drives me crazy. how can you let one of your better players walk on a team so devoid of talent?
     
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  11. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I find it interesting the OL gets the blame for Tannehill having issues, but that same argument is not made for Miller. Imagine what he could do with a real OL
     
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  12. Fin D

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    That would interesting if the people defending Tannehill were also advocating for Miller to be let go...but they aren't. In fact, the people defending Tannehill all think we should run Miller more not let him go.
     
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  13. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Miller is a great talent. We need to keep great talent on the team to be better. No way in hell we should let him walk. I don't want to overpay for him, but he needs to stay put if possible. He also needs to be used more.
     
  14. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much.
     
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  15. Makados10

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    Love Miller. Need to keep talent if it can be done in a fiscally responsible contract. Problem is he may be a casualty of other monster / bloated contracts & a number of holes to fill.
     
  16. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    Y e s
     
  17. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Depends on his cost.
     
  18. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Unless it's for a reasonable price then no, I'm with you. I'd offer him roughly 7 mil a year. That's a big pay bump. If he doesn't take it I'd let him walk.
     
  19. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Well the predominant reason we let players like Miller walk is because we overpay massively at other positions. Ironically we never get returns on those players we overpaid for nor do we get them on the cheapies we sign to replace the talent that walked.
     
  20. jdang307

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    Love to keep him but it's all about cost and don't think he's not pissed off the past few weeks at Miami. We'll see. Money talks.
     
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  21. dgfred

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    I hope we sign him... then USE him.
     
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  22. Sceeto

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    Yes, this franchise has proven that it's an absolute great move to let go it's proven talent only for it to come back and **** us in the ***.
     
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  23. bakedmatt

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    Our OL coach excels in run blocking in a zone scheme, and already know we abandon the run at the first sign of adversity. Don't go by ypc for why Lamar should be retained (in my opinion).

    He sets up blocks, has game breaking speed, has a lot of yards after contact, and has improved his pass catching.
     
  24. Ohio Fanatic

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    Well, we may have one thing to thank this current coaching staff. Their insane underusage of Miller may lower his cost if he resigns with us.
     
  25. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    His agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Not a chance.

    We only get a break if Lamar wants to stay in Miami. I would be surprised otherwise.
     
  26. jw3102

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    I have a feeling we aren't going to have to worry about resigning Miller. After the way he has been used this year, I have no doubt he will be happy to get out of Miami.

    Based on the lack of quality RB's the Dolphins have had over the last quarter century. I think assuming Miller can easily be replaced is a huge mistake. We have no idea if the next head coach will be more run oriented than Philbin and Campbell have been. So I would love for Miller to remain with the Dolphins beyond this year.

    I just don't think he wants to stay in Miami and he will get a very big raise to sign elsewhere. To me Ajayi is still a huge question mark going forward. I prefer having both Miller and Ajayi, but I truly believe Miller will be on another team in 2016.
     
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  27. DolphinGreg

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    The big-play ability that Lamar Miller has flashed over the last 2 seasons makes me think he’s poised to step up to the next level. The questions with him weren’t about physical ability. They were about being a complete RB, reliable enough to carry a full workload.

    Can he stay healthy?
    Can he produce yards after contact?
    Can he convert 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] and short?
    Can he pick up blitzes?
    Can he be the receiving threat that a RB needs to be if he wants to get paid?

    Well, the answer to all of those questions over the last year seems to be a resounding yes. The reliability has been there over the last couple seasons. The yards-after-contact is very good. The receiving ability is much improved. I think that as an organization Miami can feel confident handing Miller a solid paycheck and asking him to be a bigger part of the offense.

    With that said, I believe the discussions about Miller inside the organization will revolve not so much around Miller’s legitimacy as a feature RB as his value relative to an equally-skilled WR in Rishard Matthews.

    This is something Miami really needs to think about carefully because losing Matthews is just as disappointing as losing Miller. In reality, they both represent young, athletic, home-grown talent in the prime of their careers. These are not the types you want floating away in free agency.

    Releasing Rishard Matthews would IMO mean releasing the biggest WR asset Miami has. Can you trust Devante Parker to be as reliable as Matthews has been? Are you willing to part with a WR that has the toughness, the size and the speed of Rishard Matthews? Do you want to go on featuring Jarvis Landry as you have been given what appear to be the limitations of that strategy?

    This issue will be key to Miami’s offseason because losing either player is bad. The team may need to get creative in finding a way to free up money. There are sizeable contracts on the roster that could potentially be jettisoned: Wake, Grimes, Cameron, Pouncey. In my mind, Miller and Matthews are both much more valuable than any of those 4.

    I think how this team handles Miller, Matthews, Vernon and Shelby all hitting free agency together will be big. There really is no right or wrong here. It’s all about getting the pieces you feel like you need in order to build the team you want. If Miami wants to ride this offense to the Play-offs it’s hard to justify letting either Millers or Matthews walk. If on the other hand Miami wants to solidify the defense and balance out the roster, they might place Vernon (and Shelby for that matter) above Miller and Matthews.
     
  28. Shane Falco

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    Get a half conscious OC and he's a top 5 RB, and he's young.

    Keep him at all costs.
     
  29. adamprez2003

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    Depends what type of running game we run next year. If we run a power running attack in not sure he's going to be as effective . If we continue to run a similar offense I would resign him. He's ideal for that type
     
  30. Fin D

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    I disagree. If we use a power run game, we should still keep him for a home run threat and replace Ajyai with a bruiser.
     
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  31. Nappy Roots

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    "at all costs" Seems awfully crazy considering how easy it is to find talented running backs. Is Lamar Miller good? Yea I think he is pretty damn good. Would I unload a ton of money for a running back. Not unless its an rare talent.
     
  32. Fin-O

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    Lamar Miller is the best back in football that nobody knows about, and you can thank our current regime for that.

    But......really depends on what he tries to get per year. Granted we will be in better cap shape after this years dead weight is cut, but for christ sake we need some depth on this football team
     
  33. finfansince72

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    He's young and trending upward, he's improved in the passing game and getting tough yards after contact. He is a guy we need to keep. If we just let him walk how long would it take for New England or Indy to pounce on him and make us contending even that much harder?
     
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  34. Nappy Roots

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    NE would not pay big money for a RB.


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  35. SICK

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    Yes. You should be.
     
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  36. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They'd offer him a fair deal and he would probably take it. New England never has a problem getting players they really want.
     
  37. dolphin25

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    I think I read somewhere the contract would be like 4 million a year.
     
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  38. jdang307

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    Nope. Absolutely not. He's looking for over $7m I'm sure. His agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Top Dollar and they'll get close.
     
  39. KeyFin

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    That's all I needed to read because he is a great one. If he got the typical carries of the prototypical RB in this league, then he'd be in the top 3 for just about every relevant statistical category there is. It's not Miller's fault they're too dumb to hand the ball to him more often.
     
  40. NorFlaFin

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    Dallas will pay him, JJ tried to trade for him earlier this year.

    Here's the real problem. People are confusing an average-to-good talent with an elite talent.
    Miller is good RB but hes NOT an elite talent. But with Rosenhaus, he'll get paid like one.
     

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