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Merged: Bears OC Adam Gase named Dolphins HC

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phins_Fan_87, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    That still doesn't answer why the Broncos weren't interested in Gase to begin with. He was in the building and they certainly could have hired him if they had wanted to before he ever took an interview with SF.

    Saying they had already hired Kubiak is really a BS answer as to why they had no interest in hiring Gase.

    Gase was OC of the Broncos and yet the Broncos showed no interest in hiring him as their HC when they fired Fox. That says a great deal more than, "they had already hired Kubiak" does.
     
  2. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    So he's a failure at Chicago cause of his team's ranking without factoring in the lack of talent and the fact cutler had one of his better years in a long time but he gets no credit for the #1 offense 2 yrs in den and the best statistical offense in the history of the league? Riiight
     
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  3. byroan

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    Sure. Join Club Level.
     
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  4. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Rock, is there some sort of Coach's salary cap I have not heard of? who cares, it's Ross' money
     
  5. jw3102

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    I give him credit for what he did in Denver. It just makes you wonder if he was such a great coach in Denver, why was he completely ignored by the Broncos when they were looking for a new head coach after last season?
     
  6. keypusher

    keypusher Well-Known Member

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    Jackson would be a solid hire, agree. I'm surprised there are people seriously arguing we should hire Coughlin. He's going to be 70 before the next season starts, for crying out loud.
     
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  7. Kud_II

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    Won't be nearly as much of a trainwreck as the half empty brand new stadium for all the opposing fans to enjoy.

    Or the amount of fans the Dolphins will continue to lose locally and otherwise, if the Dolphins continue their decades of failure.

    It almost feels like Ross bought the team to drive them into the ground. Maybe he's secretly a Jets fan and he wants to keep us down? Sabotage!
     
  8. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Gase didn't have any history with Kubiak and what the Broncs have morphed into is Kubiak, not the Tom Moore/Peyton O they had prior to Kubiak coming on...
     
  9. Brasfin

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    Elway was good friends with Kubiak and likely already had him on his mind even before Fox left. Maybe Elway thought highly of Gase but didn't want to risk handing him the keys to his franchise yet due to inexperience. Never did I say his inexperience is not a problem. At the end of the day it's still a gamble but I'm not going to compain about the hire before I've seen this team in action under Gase.

    Look, I'm not saying Gase is going to be a legendary HOF coach, I just want to give him a fair trial before sentencing him, so to speak. Everyone here is already doing the opposite.
     
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  10. scotty_irnbru

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    Off you go then mate. Toodle fecking pip.
     
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  11. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    And Coughlin did what this season? With a better team than Miami mind you. So Hue or Coughlin would've made Chicago offense better? Your reasons are utterly ridiculous dude. Guy lead one of the best offenses of all time and helped Cutler have one of his best seasons. Cutler ended with a better rating than thill with less talent at the skill positions. Plus I've been told thill is superbly talented so...u posting the Bears stats has no more relevance than me posting the Broncos stats. None!
     
  12. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    How do you know where the bears would have been without him? How do you know he sucked last year? A single season in isolation is evidence of nothing. Pointless argument.
     
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  13. jw3102

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    My question isn't, why wasn't he hired as the Broncos OC under Kubiak? My question is, why wasn't he hired as the HC of the Broncos instead of Kubiak?

    The fact the Broncos decided not to promote him and instead hired Kubiak tells me that the Broncos FO was not nearly as impressed with him as a head coaching candidate when compared to the Dolphins FO.

    Yet it is the Broncos who consistently make the playoffs while the Dolphins can't even have a winning record.
     
  14. keypusher

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  15. brandon27

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    Again... Who cares about the strategy or the salary? It's irrelevant.

    They conducted numerous interviews, GAse was their top target all along, and they had the conviction in that, to get it done because they felt it's the best move for the team?

    If you want them to make that decision differently, apply for a job. Or save up your pennies and buy your own team.

    Learning to lead? So, you know the guy now? You've met him? You've talked to him? You know what leadership qualities he has or doesn't have? Good story bro..

    Get a grip people. He's respected by some of the biggest names in football, do a little research on the guy rather than just *****ing and complaining about everything the team does.

    Christ, we could have hired your favorite candidate and you'd still complain probably about the way we went about it. Just give it a rest, nobody wants to hear it..
     
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  16. Sumlit

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    It was because he was ready to take the 49ners job and Broncos had chosen Kubiak who already had a OC. He later declined the 49ners job because they tried to force Tomsula on him.
     
  17. Kud_II

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    Well, the banter is pointless now. It's already official. We'll see how much success Adam Gase has...

    The point is our front office jumped the gun and didn't even interview any other coaching prospects and there were a handful of names I would of put ahead of Gase.

    I think it's bad management by the front office. You're rarely going to get the best man for the job by hiring the first guy you interview.

    You interview multiple candidates for the position and evaluate, then make a decision. You wouldn't think you'd have to tell these things to a billion dollar franchise.
     
  18. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Well, Jackson has been the front runner in SF all along, but he was interviewed here...He wants to stay on the wc...that's his preference... Coughlin has not been mentioned ANYWHERE since he was run out of NY (unjustly), but all of a sudden today he pops up as a front runner in Philly because Gase is no longer available...(if you remember, Gase was the front runner in Philly before interviewing here). I don't know that Gase will be our next Shula or not (as none of us do), but he was a good hire for THIS offseason...

    And he was the front runner in Baum and Ross' minds so getting the guy they wanted is a plus (unlike the last 3 hires where we 'settled' for the next best option that was available.)

    The sky is not falling just yet...it fell way back in Sept when Queasy was finally laid to rest...
     
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  19. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    Any "fans" he loses over being a losing team wasn't "fans" to begin with. There's a lot of fickle, bandwagon "fans" in Miami. If you can even consider not being a fan anymore then you never were to begin with. Sounds like you should get an early start on finding a new team. Or u can just wait to see who wins the Super Bowl this year and jump on their bandwagon. I'm sure that teams forum would love to have your incredible insight.
     
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  20. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I can't believe that some poster are adults. They sound like complete morons. Faulty logic and nonsensical arguments. I will wait to see what this guy can do. I will give him a
    few seasons unless he is a total bust.

    Some of these posters should go over to finheaven, never mind I am sure some of these idiots came from there.
     
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  21. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Did he? Really? The scene in the locker room before the Pats game was the same old unprofessional Miami Dolphins culture. Actually, it was even worse from Philbin. Did Campbell really change the culture, because we still saw a team, play like crap for the most part. So he changed a few practice things, and got some black jerseys... ohh... wow.. Culture changing...

    Nothing changed under Campbell. It's actually pretty easy when looking at his game day decisions, roster decisions, and the poro discipline of the team to make the case that things actually got worse.
     
  22. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    guy is the worst poster on this site.
     
  23. Galant

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  26. Galant

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    Does he look like President Putin from that angle? :D
     
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  27. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Thanks for the article, but it still doesn't change my view. If I read this article and you told me the Dolphins had hired an experienced head coach and he was bring in Gase as the OC, I would be extremely happy about the move.

    I am just not excited about another head coach being hired who has zero experience as a head coach in the NFL. They have tried this time after time and have had no success. I think the term insanity would fit Ross and this front office perfectly.
     
  28. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    They interviewed quite a few...Gase, Campbell, Jackson, Shannahan, Teryl Austin, Anthony Lynn, Mike Smith, Marone (maybe Marone was cancelled with the Gase hire). They had Koetter on their list too, but he was denied by TB...

    The Coughlin and Lovie Smith likely were not interviewed because they came into the picture so late... Patricia and McDaniels are tied up right now but personally McDaniels wasn't worth interviewing to me...

    They did some good work in who they targeted and who they had info on...
     
  29. Kud_II

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    That's literally some of the worst logic I've ever heard. No I've been a fan for 20 years. That's a fact. I've watched every game, have owned a **** ton of Dolphins merch. But yeah you're right. It's getting close to about time to dedicate the rest of my life to a team that isn't dedicated to the pendulum swinging from bad to mediocre and being ok with that.

    I don't invest my time, money, passion, for the product the Dolphins are giving. And it seems more and more every year the franchise cares less and less about the fans so..

    I'll watch Gase for a year before I make any decisions since so many are convinced he is the right hire.
     
  30. finserg

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    Agree let see what he does
     
  31. Galant

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  32. Kud_II

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    Lets not tell fibs.

    Hue Jackson interview with Dolphins cancelled as Miami targets Adam Gase

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/1/...with-dolphins-cancelled-as-miami-targets-adam
     
  33. DevilFin13

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    Gase seems more risky than the other seeming top choice, Hue Jackson. Hue is almost a perfect storm of a candidate, experience as a HC but wasn't all that much to blame for the fact that he didn't keep that job. Gase has done a lot of the same stuff Hue has done, just less of it and minus that HC time. So if you like Hue I don't think it's much of a stretch to think Gase can be successful for the same reasons. There's always risk, even with veterans like Coughlin and Shanahan. But I'm cautiously optimistic about Gase.
     
  34. resnor

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    Haha!

    I just don't find many of the main arguments used against Tannehill to be accurate, that's all. In arguing against them, I tend to come across as more invested in Tannehill than I probably am, or, more specifically, that I think more of Tannehill than I actually do.
     
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  35. BigNastyDB13

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    The fins hired the first and only guy they interviewed? News to me. They obviously got the guy they wanted which is an improvement in itself. The only candidate I'd be more optimistic about is Hue and he may not have even been an option. Gase is a much better bet in the long run for this franchise than Coughlin or anyone else would've been imo.
     
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  37. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    You have already made your decision on whether he is a good coach so spare use the bull****. You are acting like a small child about a decisions and a coach you know jack about. If you hate this team so much, leave. If you wanted to argue rationally and logically it would be one thing, but my god.

    PS- If you leave, take EVO and Rock
     
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  38. brandon27

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    And there's reports out there saying Hue wants the SF job. Why wait? If Gase is their #1 target, and was months ago as they say, and you have an interview scheduled with a guy who you know is leaning towards going elsewhere, and you dont want him more than Gase... why waste the time? Hire the guy, let him fill out his staff and get to work ASAP. Patricia and McDaniels were cancelled too, and lets face it, they likely weren't real targets anyways. More so an information gathering session by our FO on what NE's take is on us. That happens all the time.
     
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