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Alex Smith or Ryan Tannehill

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Shane Falco, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. Shane Falco

    Shane Falco Banned

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    A popular stance for the anti-Tannehill crowd is that he is another Alex Smith.

    I don't see that being a bad thing. 30-0 in the playoffs?

    I'd take that from Tannehill.

    I hope he is another Alex Smith lol.
     
  2. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    :deadhorse:


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  3. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Right now Alex Smith is a better QB than Tannehill. But Tannehill has a much, much higher ceiling. If Alex Smith had Tanny's arm he'd be one of the best.
     
  4. PSG

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    Agreed. But if Tannehill had Smith's brain.........
     
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  5. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well, that's the same thing as Alex Smith having tanny's arm right? Because athletically, Alex Smith can move his legs purdy good. Just lacks that arm.
     
  6. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I agree. My point wasn't to be a dick. More to say their skill set is a bit different.
     
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  7. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Oh, I didn't take it as such. Just discussion no offense here.

    As to the OP, I think Tanny critics say he's not even as good as Alex Smith ...
     
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  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    alex smith isnt better. he's simply on a better team
     
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  9. Sceeto

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    derrrrr
     
  10. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    hmm,put a good Qb on a good team

    Davis scored on a kick off, to open the game, ST setting the tone vs the bottom rung ST unit

    Blame Tannehill
     
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  11. Colmax

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    I think I may have coined that comparison.

    My point (and my only point), was that Smith went through a bunch of offensive coordinators early in his career. And I am not sure Smith (and possibly Tannehill) could get a firm footing on any concepts the offenses wanted to display. I think it messes with a QB a bit to have to learn all of these new concepts, which could mess with their confidence, etc.
     
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  12. Georgia Fin

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    Stop and think about this, who is his coach now??? Same guy that makes all of his guys look good even the backups. If there is one thing Andy Reid can do its get the most out of his QB no matter who he is. AJ Feeley ring a bell????
     
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  13. MikeHoncho

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    That's a bingo
     
  14. evo8904

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    Smith has better coaches. Andy Reid even made McNabb look great.
     
  15. Alex44

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    I wanted us to sign Alex Smith and I pretty much got laughed at and blasted, said he was actually one of the most talented QB's in the league who had seen a bunch of crappy circumstance and had a chance to grow into himself.

    So F everyone who said I was wrong :lol:
     
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  16. Stringer Bell

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    So what you're saying is that the anti-Tannehill crowd isn't anti-Tannehill???

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  17. Shane Falco

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    Lol no. They say all that will amount to is an Alex Smith.

    I just said I would take that.


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  18. evo8904

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    I think that Tannehill has done fine considering this horrible offensive line. I saw defensive players just run past Fox without him doing much. Also, Alex Smith has had better coaching. Andy Reid has had very good success with QBs.
     
  19. PSG

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    At this point in their careers, Tannehill isn't as good as Smith. IMO.
    But he probably has a higher ceiling.
     
  20. DolphinGreg

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    It takes time for QBs to develop. Alex Smith has over 10 years experience in the NFL and is now paired with Andy Reid, a solid supporting cast and a strong defense.

    I hope that with that kind of experience and those advantages Tannehill could succeed too.



    That said, Alex Smith wasn't exceptional yesterday. His opponent didn't score at all and his team was the beneficiary of 5 turnovers. Fact is, Alex Smith never had to do anything to win that game and had nothing but opportunities to keep his team moving.

    It's sad that the Texans made the Play-offs. It really is. That AFC South division was straight garbage in 2015.

    Alex Smith essentially had a bye week. I think Brian Hoyer pretty much ended his NFL career yesterday.
     
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  21. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Dude. Cool your jets. The Dolphins beat the Texans even.
     
  22. number21

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    The AFC south has been trash for years excluding the colts to be honest.
     
  23. jw3102

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    It takes some QB's time to develop. It certainly didn't take Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Russell Wilson, Dan Marino, Andrew Luck, and most of the other top tier QB's more than one season to show they were special.

    Average QB's can show a little improvement if they are surrounded with quality talent and great coaching, but they will never be more than slightly above average at best. Right now that is where Smith is as a QB and Tannehill is still trying to get to that slightly above average status.

    I still feel next year will be his last year in Miami. Starting in 2017 his contract calls to him to be paid as if he is a top tier QB and I just don't ever see him being that type of QB.
     
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  24. Limbo

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    Alex Smith has long been Tannehill's best comparison. The question is whether you're okay with Alex Smith as your qb for the next 6+ years. I think you need more than that at the position to be a consistent SB contender.
     
  25. Finster

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    Smith didn't get paid until he proved something, and is overpaid imo anyway, it's all about playing well in the clutch.
     
  26. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    If KC goes up to Foxboro and beats New England, this topic should be brought back up. I personally think Smith is good enough to win a Super Bowl with a good team. As amazing as KC has looked for the last ten weeks, he may get his chance this year.
    If that is the comparison Tannehill draws, i'm good with it. Smith is an underrated QB in my opinion. Tannehill has much a higher upside, but like Smith it'll really take some time for him to really reach that peak. Smith was in his seventh year (his first with Harbaugh) when he finally started to get it, but he also had a complete team around him.
     
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  27. jw3102

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    I really don't get the view that Tannehill has a higher upside. To me Smith is better in the pocket and has more football smarts than Tannehill at the QB position.
    Smith is a QB who may not have the arm Tannehill does, but plenty of strong arm QB's have failed in the NFL. Joe Montana was never seen as a QB with a rifle arm, but I have no doubt everyone would admit he was one of the best QB's of all time.

    I think when their careers are over. We will be able to look back and see that Smith was a much better NFL QB when compared to Tannehill.
     
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    Well, the Dolphins were up 35-0 before Houston even gained a yard. I've mostly given up on Tannehill ever becoming a true franchise QB but he is still solid IMO and I would still take him over Smith. Tannehill on the Chiefs with Andy Reid the last few seasons would be better than Smith was I think.
     
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    Luck and Tannehill really arent that far off one another. Ive actually never seen a QB more overhyped than Luck is. Not to say he's not great, just to say the legend is greater than the man at this point.
     
  30. MikeHoncho

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    Can I just have one Andy Reid and/or one Jim Harbaugh?


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  31. dolphin25

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    Luck has a bad team, and bad OL.
     
  32. dolphin25

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    Smith was very solid with the 49ers! Thinking they are thinking OOPS! on letting him get away.
     
  33. resnor

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    So does Tannehill. Point?
     
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  34. Shane Falco

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    There isn't one. There never is.

    It's a trolling hallmark.
     
  35. Fin-O

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    There is nothing wrong with being a blueprint of Alex Smith. He matured in to an efficient playmaker. If love to have one of those.


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    Today I was watching a bit of a rerun of the Chiefs/Pats game when the Patsies got blown out. Smith was very good in that game. He made some great reads and throws. He had great touch on his passes. He plays smart.
     
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  37. Fin-O

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    I like KC and the points this week because they are so efficient.


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  38. Limbo

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    Yep. For the early part of his career he was a lot like Tannehill (accurate, conservative, a little robotic, didn't fully engage/utilize his athleticism). But he's started threatening more with his legs and extending plays to hit downfield. Made a huge difference in his game. As did the fact that he's now with an excellent coach who gets what the role/impact of a QB should be in his offense.

    I think Tannehill has that type of HC now in Gase. Question is whether RT can break his conservative tendencies and start taking some chances and making plays on his own. It's what dj has brought up approximately 20000 times: can that be coached/learned, or is it an instinct you either have or don't have?
     
  39. Mcduffie81

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    Comparing Tannehill to Alex Smith is one of the more aggravating ideas tossed around. It's an insult to Tannehill.

    Alex Smith has had pedestrian numbers his entire career and it's only within the last 4-5 years that he's been anything more than a guy who hands the ball off to Frank Gore or Charles and makes a few short (horrible ypa) throws to keep the offense moving while playing ultra conservative.

    If we are talking about Smith NOW after over a decade of experience and comparing that to Tannehill after 4 years of experience, well then that is completely ridiculous and unfair to Tannehill. The data provided isn't even comparable!

    If Tannehill isn't run out of town and allowed to actually develop he will BLOW anything Smith has done out of the water.

    All I see as a comparison is that they are both about the same size and athletic.
     
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  40. dolphin25

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    I've brought that up too. I did see the last 2 games Tannehill do something like that. but again there was no pressure and the games were meaningless, so we shall see.
     

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