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Dolphins hire Vance Joseph(for reals)

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Disgustipate, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I would guess new coordinators actually have more short term success. Its harder for teams to game plan for a new scheme and a new DC, especially early on in the year. IMO That is why a lot of first year coaches actually make the playoffs and fall off right after.
     
  2. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    Being able claim you were right.
     
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  3. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I've been saying that no one should rule out a LOS player in the first round of the draft. If the Dolphins do change to a 3-4 scheme, this could bump a guy like DeForest Buckner up their list.
     
  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Personnel packages, basically would mean a defensive rebuild, add in it is far far easier to find 4-3 Dlinemen who are ready to step in and play via the draft, then convert 4-3 DE's to OLB and fit into the scheme without a long learning curve (potentially)

    Credit to Joseph, he has experience in both systems that performed at a high level, if he is a good coach that experience+accurate assessment of the players likely to still be here and fit into his system is not an impossibility, it is a likelihood

    If he can light a fire under Jordan's backside, that would be icing on the cake.

    As for Suh, keep in mind many many snaps this yr after Wake went down Suh played DE in passrushing situations.

    Aside from Jordan's potential value recovery, we have a small cadre' of high pick Db's who have not done much at all besides being poor players for 2 yrs, another opportunity
     
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  5. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    "Winning culture" is a genuinely bizarre sort of platitude and I'm not sure what it has to do with Vance Joseph being a good DC or not.
     
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  6. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Where'd you see that?
     
  7. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    nothing - nothing at all:pity:
     
  8. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I doubt the validity of any reporter saying what defense Miami will run before Vance even has an opportunity to take a look at his players. Because OV and Cam are not the ideal ends for the Cincinnati style of 4-3, I don't think we will maintain the scheme unless we completely redo the DE position with taller, longer players.
     
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  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The bengals denied the Broncos last year from hiring him..
     
  10. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Nowhere that credible.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ns-hire-vance-joseph-as-defensive-coordinator

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10328/vance-joseph

    There was this article that said he is expected to keep a 4-3 in an earlier version, but they edited it out. Wonder if someone corrected Abramson. The google cache of it has it quoted, but it no longer appears in the article http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachp...s-hire-vance-joseph-as-defensive-coordinator/
     
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  11. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    Some had Fede's best position coming out of the draft as a 3-4 end. Bronson Kaufusi and Adam Gotsis would make nice additions to that defense and they are projected in the mid rounds, at least for now, Kaufusi could sky rocket if he blows up the combine.

    I might just try to sign both Derrick Johnson and Jerrell Freeman if they both hit free agency. Not completely sold on Jelani Jenkins and Sheppard and Misi must go.
     
  12. 757bred

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    This makes me feel a little bit better about his hire.

    http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/p...artments/8f01fa59-e106-44c2-9ba6-03ec56e5b733

    A former NFL cornerback, Vance Joseph brings 11 years of experience coaching defensive backs at the NFL level. He spent the past two seasons (2014-15) as the defensive backs coach for the Cincinnati Bengals, where he helped the team lead the league with 41 interceptions and limit opposing passers to the lowest passer rating (77.4) in the NFL during those two seasons. During Joseph’s tenure in Cincinnati, the Bengals were the only team to have more interceptions (41) than passing touchdowns allowed (36). Cincinnati also led the league in interception percentage (3.3 percent) and touchdown percentage (2.9) and ranked fifth in fewest yards allowed per attempt (6.60) during that span. In 2015, the Bengals ranked second in the league in fewest points allowed, surrendering just 17.4 points per contest. The defense intercepted 21 passes, the third-best mark in the league.

    As the defensive backs coach for the Houston Texans from 2011-13, Joseph helped make major improvement to Houston’s secondary. He inherited the NFL’s worst pass defense (267.5 yards allowed per game) and, in one season, improved the unit to No. 3 (189.7 yards allowed per game) in the NFL. The Texans led the league in opponent completion percentage (51.9) by nearly two points and were second in opponent passer rating (69.0). Prior to Houston, Joseph spent six seasons (2005-10) on the San Francisco 49ers coaching staff, including five years as the team’s defensive backs coach. He also coached defensive backs at Wyoming, Colorado and Bowling Green. Joseph was a three-year letterman at Colorado where he played quarterback and running back for the Buffaloes. He signed with the New York Jets as an undrafted free agent in 1995 and played defensive back for two years with the Jets (1995) and Indianapolis Colts (1996), starting six games and recording two interceptions.
     
  13. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I think I like Joesph as the DC
     

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