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So what exactly is the Adam Gase offense anyway?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan7171, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. cbrad

    cbrad .

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    Yeah, good read. It all comes down to Ryan's ability to execute, as the article itself points out. We'll see.
     
  2. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Good read. Helped me fill in a few blanks. I'm really optimistic that Gase will do a much better job of using the players we have than anyone in the last decade.
     
  3. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    This gave me an idea of what it could be. I just don't know if it will look different from what was shown in the article.
     
  4. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    16 points a game is lethal?
     
  5. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Who scored 16 points a game?
     
  6. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    was it 19? The Bears? I would not call it lethal, but whatever.
     
  7. dgfred

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    Hard to compare with the Bears WR being injured alot this year. I would like to see the TE used like they did especially the first of the year. I am not sure tho that they used the TE more because of the injuries at WR or actual game planning.
     
  8. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    They scored 20.9, good for 23rd. This in a year where they lost their TE and both starting WRs and their starting RB in stretches.
     
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  9. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    The Bears scored 20.9 this past season, so about 5 points more a game than 16 (which would be really horrible). They also suffered a huge amount of injuries, had an OL almost as bad as our own, and played six games against the top 10 defenses in the league. I would argue that Gase squeezed as much out of them as he could have.
     
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  10. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention his system probably requires more from the players mentally, it probably will not run on all cylinders year one... the players will have to get used to it before they can run it effectively. I think next year we'll see an upgrade in offensive output, but likely not what most people are expecting.
     
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  11. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    That's fair considering that it may be difficult to pick up all at once. If may be interesting how much they can grasp in year one.
     
  12. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    Considering Chicago went from 27th in the league in rushing to 11th under 1 season of Gase, I can't wait. (also up to 6th over 30th in attempts, and 12th from 26th in rush TDS).
     
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  13. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    That's a good point there my man. I think we might be in the top 10 in rushing very soon.
     
  14. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Yup.
     
  15. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    Heh... "interesting" is the result when we fumble for safeties in the endzone.
     
  16. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    As long we are getting the two points I'm cool with it.
     
  17. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I'm glad someone else commented on the horrible route combinations in the previous offense. This is something I have cited when people continue to criticize Ryan Tannehill. The route combos did not give him very much of a chance at success.
     
  18. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    The more I think about it, the more I love it. Adam Gase will do something Bill Lazor did not or could not do. He will find a way to create space on the field with his route combos for his play makers.

    Jarvis Landry's numbers are about to jump up. Not on a total receptions basis, but on a per reception basis. He is already one of the best YAC receivers in football, and now that he is in a system that will create space for him and vary his routes more, I have a feeling his 10 YPC stat is about to take a big jump. It will not surprise me to see Miami's top 3 receivers average over 16 yards per reception in 2016.
     
  19. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    Exciting. Get that line fixed so the receiver can get a little depth.
     
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  20. cbrad

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    Yeah we'll see. The QB still has to do his part in this equation (that's the big unknown). It's not like you know beforehand which receiver is going to be open. So I do like the idea of spreading out the field so that the chance of an open receiver increases, but Tannehill has to take advantage of that too.

    Maybe he can, maybe not. I gotta see to believe, but yes it's definitely possible.
     
  21. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Tannehill is excellent at spreading the ball around.
     
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  22. cbrad

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    I meant that he has to recognize what the defense is doing and make the proper decision. That I haven't yet seen like he'll have to do in Gase's offense.
     
  23. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I wasn't giving you crap, just stating something.
     
  24. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I was reading an article recently, from like four years ago, about Tannehill (don't ask me where, it was buried in threads on here, I found while looking for something else), and they were talking about what a great job he was doing at identifying blitzes, and changing stuff at the line. Goes right along with what Lazor said last year, or season before, about Tannehill being as good as anyone he's worked with at identifying presnap and making the right choice.
     
  25. cbrad

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    I remember that too, though doing something in a practice vs. in a game is different. Still gotta see it.

    One thing worth noting though is Gase's approach is perfectly suited to ramping up the complexity of the offense based on what the QB can actually handle. It'll be a good test of how football smart Tannehill really is (or better: can be, because I maintain he's made a lot of stupid decisions in the past).
     
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  26. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I believe that article was talking about game situations.
     
  27. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    It was.
     
  28. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I do agree that Tannehill needs to do his part. Where I disagree, is that if you are an intelligent QB who knows your routes and the defense, you should know who will be open pre-snap. At the very least who SHOULD be.
     
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  29. cbrad

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    Yeah I was clarifying precisely that in post #23. That is, "know beforehand" depends on QB ability.
     
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  30. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Yes. If you understand the route combo and read the coverage pre snap, you should know based on the coverage who will be open. It does change a little when the coverage is disguised though.
     
  31. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I'd be curious to see how many times Ryan went to the line, read the coverage, and realized that no one in the route combo would be open while not having the permission to change the play at the line.
     
  32. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    Something tells me that he will have full access to the plays at the line. At least I see it as he is being given a chance to play his best without limitation from someone else.
     
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  33. Rock Sexton

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    He won't even know the full playbook in Year 1.
     
  34. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Interesting. Ben McAdoo is being hired by the Giants as their head coach. His choice for offensive coordinator? Joe Philbin.

    Makes me really wonder why he did not take the job in Miami in 2014.

    Interestingly enough, McAdoo's resume is not that different than Adam Gase's. Gase has one more year as a coordinator on his resume. Where Gase was a gopher for Nick Saban in college, Ben was an assistant coach at a high school. McAdoo is also one year older.
     
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  35. jdang307

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    Lol if only you knew what lazor thought about Tanny. Let's just say whatever good things he said about Tanny publicly ... Is bs.
     
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  36. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I tune coach-speak out. They're never going to dog their player publicly, so you never know what they REALLY think of a player.
     
  37. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Exactly! Also why I added the last part about "should be"
     
  38. Dolphin Dundee

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    Didn't Forte have a hell of a year last year and was Gase OC then? If so the future is bright for Miller if they keep him.
     
  39. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    That's true but whatever he knows he may be able to use fully without restriction.
     

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