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Dolphins owner Stephen Ross: Joe Philbin held Ryan Tannehill back

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Sceeto, Mar 22, 2016.

  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article67537417.

     
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  2. cbrad

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    Failure was "probably the result of an overestimation of talent on the roster and a failure in coaching".

    BRILLIANT!!

    Like.. what else could it have been. Oh yeah.. bad decisions by the owner!
     
  3. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Too bad we still have some of the same front office that led to last year as well.
     
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  4. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    I don't know why he doesn't ever just take responsibility for his terrible decisions....he's just a bumbling idiot.
     
  5. MikeHoncho

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    Does Ross even have PR people?


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  6. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Ross bears as much blame as Philbin. His inability to make the right decisions, staying loyal when it's clear a person needs replaced and overall lack of leadership has plagued this organization. You can blame one coach but the constant through multiple coaches and GM's has been him. At this point, his cheerleading has no effect. Show us with results on the field.
     
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  7. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    To me, Ross deserves all the responsibility. He hired Philbin when Philbin had no experience ever as a HC at any level. Philbin never called plays as an offensive coordinator and you could see after one year in Miami that he wasn't fit to be an NFL head coach.

    Then after beating a bad Vikings team late in the 2014 season, Ross announced that Philbin was coming back in 2015. Even though the vast majority of the fan base knew Philbin needed to be fired. Instead Dolphin fans were forced to suffer through another wasted season while Ross finally realized that Philbin wasn't suited to be an NFL head coach.

    While I think the hiring of Gase was a definite upgrade over Philbin. I still think Ross made a major mistake in hiring Tannebaum to be head of football operations. I don't think he is effective at talent evaluation and I don't see this team becoming a winner until he is replaced by someone who actually knows how to build a successful football team.

    The burden is on Ross to hire the best people possible to turn this team around. So far in his seven years as majority owner, he has done a pretty piss poor in this area. Hopefully Gase will prove to be his first good hire since taking over as majority owner in 2008.
     
  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Actually that's an astute observation by Ross. I have been one of his biggest critics but after four years I think he figured it out. Gase is the right guy to get this team going in the right direction. Whether Tannenbaum is remains to be seen
     
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  9. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    In terms of football, he's an idiot just throwing darts. His shortcomings as an owner (specifically the right "connections") will continue to bleed out onto the rest of the franchise.
     
  10. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Because someone recognizes their mistakes it doesn't mean they'll stop making the same mistakes. I like Ross but have no confidence he'll make the right ones. Gase might be great, but we risk losing him (if he's good) if the roster sucks.
     
  11. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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  12. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    You're really using Vontae Davis as evidence Jeff Ireland was a competent GM? What did he do with those "coupla picks"?

    You could take any GM in the NFL past or current and cobble together a cherry picked list like yours. The man had no ability to build an NFL roster. I could spend an hour putting together a larger list of his failures, but I'll stop feeding the troll now and wait for the admins to figure out which banned account signed back up.
     
  13. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Haha, okay some of you guys are better at this than I am. Who is this user? Someone who was previously banned obviously to know my stance on Matt Ryan.
     
  14. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    It was answered already.

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  15. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Culture

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    Ireland got the shaft. The tools were there.

    Philbin was a joke and couldn't build a Slurpee if the cups, machine, lids and straws were staring him in the face.
     
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  16. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I skipped over it. Just went back.
     
  17. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ireland put an okay roster together. He wasn't great, wasn't terrible. For every hole in the boat he'd plug up, he'd create another one.

    Philbin was bad.
     
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  18. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I just dont think he ever got a fair shake. Sparano and Philbin - wow

    All I know is the cap was tight and he did what he could. Agree was ok - not great/ or was he? How do we really know with those coaches? Just didn't like how the whole thing went down with people in the front office aligning themselves. That's shady - I would have fired them all. Not sure how much input either coach had on who the players were? Maybe more then any of us know....

    Just for the record because I keep seeing this repeatedly on here, people like to rewrite history - Ireland could have stayed in a reduced role (we now know Philbin was the problem).

    Ireland Resigned - he was not fired
     
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  19. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Dolphins fans are so fickle. If the Dolphins have a successful season, defenders of Ross are going to say, "he's learned from his mistakes, figured it out and is helping turn the team around" The naysayers of Ross are going to simply say he got lucky.
     
  20. LiferYank

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    Yep and if we lose the first couple of games the "fans" will be calling for a new GM and Head Coach.....
     
  21. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see a list of all his draft picks and how they turned out. Also a list of some other GM's and see how their picks turned out in the same tenure
     

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