Dolphins rookie QB Brandon Doughty happy to return home to Miami/ Combine vid

Dougthy also had 11 TD's and 3 INT's against ranked opponents. I'll take that! And the Marshall game you posted, Marshall was a dominate defense that year, and Dougthy shredded them.

 

I find your comments interesting because when I watched the film I thought that you would appreciate how well he moves in the pocket and how he will roll away from pressure to escape it all the while leaving his eyes down field to make a play. CK posted the bowl game from last year, you should watch that one, lots of pressure but he just moves away from it much like Marino did.

 

They were ranked 5th in the nation! A little more then decent.

 

I really didn't like that game, but I went back and watched each throw, and he actually had some really nice plays. Many were called back for a penality or something. I agree with you on the second INT, the receiver pretty much stopped on his route.

 

Both of those guys played on storied NCAA teams. WKU has only been in division 1 for a handful of years. Doughty took the team from that level to being ranked at the end of last year. WKU also had 6 other players drafted or signed as FA's none of those would have been in the NFL if not for Doughty lifting the team up. The WKU defense the year before was horrible, yet Doughty led the team to a winning season. Check out the 8 TD game it took to win a come from behind game. All the pressure was on him the past 2 years and he delivered.

The knock on Ryan in college was his 3rd downs and the 4th quarter, those issues still continue in the NFL.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= multiple progressions for sure

 

Something tells me Ryan would have understood the game better against the same competition that Doughty played against. You can't simply discount that.

 

They wound up playing Texas Tech in the Advocare V100 Texas Bowl, also they did win the game by 28 pts so again its not a performance to point at and say it was great, it was pretty good against a decent higher division team. Nice but not a make or break evaluation game. There just isn't anything to substantiate your evaluation, honestly I hope you're right, I hope we drafted a 1st round talent in the 7th round, I hope the guy makes the HOF one day.

 

I don't think it's a bad thing that you don't believe in a 7th round pick, especially a QB, I know I never have, but me and a few others do see something different about this QB, only time will tell, but obviously, there is nothing wrong with you not believing in him, just saying.

Having said all that, 25 is not going to back down on Doughty, lol, but that's his guy, and 25 will be a fan site legend if he's right about him.

 

ive watched his reps, it's an overall assessment of his abilities.

 

Its not that I don't believe in him, I'm pretty much neutral on any pick we make until I see them play in the NFL. I always root for and hope a guy we draft is awesome, I mean why would it be a bad thing if we found the next great Miami Qb in a 7th round pick? I just honestly don't see any reasoning to act like its time to dump Tannehill and start playing this kid like he's a proven commodity, I mean there is literally no reasoning on this earth to substantiate this kid as a proven NFL caliber Qb. Its even a stretch to say he could have played in the SEC for a major college program. How many guys have gone from 7th round pick/UDFA basically to even starting for a long stretch in the NFL? The odds are against him, hey if 25 is right kudos to him.

 

How many first round QB's have gone on to suck? The numbers are staggering. But, Finster is correct I won't back down on Dougthy. I also don't believe he will get a legit shot unless Tannehill gets knocked out.

 

Nice to see people are still falling in love with the backup QBs. I just hope they remember they're the back up for a reason.

 

I agree with Mayock on the 2nd int, ''he stared down the receiver''.. and the ball placement wasn't good, gotta throw that ball low..watch the linebacker on the play, he looks right at Doughty when the ball is snapped, reads him and closes on the play..

I dont think the play should be one to absolve him responsibility on it..

that game had 0 blitzing except for the first int, so its a silly game to analyze.

 

Hard not to look at a slant, it is a bang bang play. The WR stopped without question, but I agree the game should be tossed out.

 

I get where you are coming from, but for me it is more than that as I watched every game he played last year and several before that. I've seen how he has taken a team 2 years into the NCAA division 1 and had them ranked at the end of last year. I've seen him bring the team back time and time again to win games in the 4th quarter. So for me this is not just some guy the Dolphins drafted, I was a huge fan of his before he was drafted to the Dolphins.

 

You mean like, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, and Brady, etc?

The truth is, he's not even a back up QB yet, but that doesn't mean he can't be a good starter either.

 

4 of the guys you listed were high draft picks and were consider to be the future of the team.

Lol okay. You guys can wonder what can be with this guy if you want to.

 

That's all nice. Just wanna let you know it's very unlikely that a 25 year old rookie would overtake Tannehill and would become our savior. Even if Tannehill gets hurt. But like I said to finster, I will leave you guys wondering what can be.

 

Of course it's unlikely that Doughty ever overtakes Tannehill and becomes the starter here. That shouldn't stop people from evaluating his talent and, if it seems worthy, praising it.

I mean, the Jets took a guy at the top of the 4th round last year that recently bragged about how much better he's understanding and recognizing coverage by mentioning he can recognize an "under" front on Madden now. That's an actual thing that happened in real life. And then this year they take a guy in the 2nd round that was very literally the worst quarterback in the draft class in terms of: 1) accuracy and success rate when not pressured, 2) accuracy and success rate when pressured, and 3) rate of negative plays when pressured.

I think we should be permitted to praise a guy we managed to get in the 7th round who is by all means a better quarterback than either of those two.

 

That was really all I was saying, this is all conjecture about a QB, who was also on the radar of a lot of experts as a QB with a lot of late round potential.

If it's ok to speculate about Duarte being a Clay type player, why then can't it be speculated that this QB can be a legit starter one day.

 

There were several QB's drafted ahead of him (13) that I know Doughty is better then. He played against some of them and it was clear who the better QB was in each of those games.

 

Just don't forget who started the Jakeem Grant thread in the draft forum...It's all fun and games until Panda picks a hidden gem.

Nobody last year ate crow with the Melvin Gordon vs. Todd Gurley debate. They couldn't afford to supplicate their fragile egos any further without being completely broken...#poor sports

 

I missed on that pick..I thought Gordon would be really good.

 

Thank you, Deej, God bless you...

 

It always amuses me when people raise their victory banners and start demanding that people admit others were wrong about a draft prospect...after like, one year.

There are countless, absolutely countless examples of really good players in the NFL who were crap rookies, including running backs. But because Melvin Gordon averaged 3.5 yards per carry as a rookie (virtually the same that LaDainian Tomlinson averaged as a rookie with the Chargers), you're like "Admit it! Melvin Gordon sux0rz!"

Good grief.

Personally I didn't stake out a side on this contrived Gordon versus Gurley debate, as it pertains to their talent. Gurley was a breathtaking talent on the football field in college. So was Gordon. I had the utmost respect for both talents on the football field.

The difference between the two was that Gordon had virtually no injury history to speak of, while Gurley had an extensive injury history including an ACL tear that was expected to impact his rookie season. But the NFL gods are not without their sense of irony. A year later Gurley has been very productive in a year he was expected to partially miss due to the ACL recovery, while Melvin Gordon is now recovering from microfracture surgery.

 

So you want in on year 2?..3?...4?

Tomlinson rushed for 1236 his first year. Like you said, Gordon is recovering from microfracture surgery...This particular debate is over like Vince Carter in the slam dunk competition.

Normally, I'd agree with you, but unless anyone wants to double down on Gordon, anyone?...

 

true..its only been a year..

 

with the microfracture in question its hard to be able to look inside both their knees..

 

#intuition>leftbrainlogic

 

Fine, no takers, still poor sports, eh?...oh, these next two years of analysis are going to inflate my balls the size of basketballs.

#insufferable

time left to eat crow before Panda goes on epic, mind bending, two year reign of torment ending in three, two,...

 

you scare me when you go 3rd person like that...im out.

 

Say it, CK!

 

lol

 

I wouldn't have taken either of them early in the draft, is that wrong? lol. I probably would have taken Gordon because of the injury history with Gurley which would have been a mistake obviously. Sadly Gurley is on a loser franchise with a bad coach, he'll need to go somewhere else to win anything.

 

It doesn't help that we all like to root against whichever prospect LBSFinest is pushing at draft time.

 

After one season Gordon is Daniel Thomas and Gurley is Ricky Williams.

 

Tony Romo and Kirk Cousins say hi!

Not saying it'll happen, but it's not impossible either. Let's let the kids play.

 

Jeff Dellanbach coached Doughty in high school. He showed some clips of Doughty; in one he pulled the ball down and ran it for a first down in the OTA's.