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Game of Thrones - Season 6

Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Fin D, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. MikeHoncho

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    Oh in the show, Mance is dead. He's very very dead.
     
  2. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    I know - I am speculating his role from the books is taken in the show by
    Osha/Rickon in some manner.
     
  3. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Great episode with great ending.
     
  4. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    So... body double / CGI or no?
     
  5. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    [​IMG]

    And spectacular


    http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/15/game-thrones-emilia-clarke-dany
    Not sure why everyone thought it was a body double. She's been nude more than any other actress on that show, by a longshot.
     
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  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I think she's actually hotter in her natural (brunette) look:

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  7. MikeHoncho

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    Agreed.
     
  8. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    By a long shot. Brunettes are always better than blondes anyway.
     
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  9. Ludacris

    Ludacris Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The person casting for GoT has the best job on earth.
     
  10. MikeHoncho

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    Was this ever posted in S4 thread?
    [video]https://i.imgur.com/5jNrRt6.mp4[/video]
     
  11. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Episode 5 leaked early. I won't post spoilers. Suffice it to say, all stories are moving forward (some faster than others), game pieces moved around the board, and the crescendo moment of the episode was fantastic to put it mildly.
     
  12. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Holy ****. Hold the door.

    Overall a solid episode, though I want something to come to fruition with the Arya line. But damn, that ending though. Some feels man. Right when she said it the first time it was like daaaaaaaaaaamn noooooooo!
     
  13. Two Tacos

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    Anyone else think that shot was in response to this Southpark?

    [video]https://youtube.com/watch?v=XjzC2DRgEo4[/video]
     
  14. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    :sad:

    although... must have gif of this.

    :sidelol:

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  15. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    That was the saddest death to date.
     
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  16. MikeHoncho

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    Hodor, Hodor.
     
  17. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Moving past that though ... apparently the White Walkers are a
    weapon of mass destruction created by the children of the forest to combat invading mankind. Curious to see what kind of effect that has on things down the (getting shorter) road. Seems an awful big detail to include if they don't have a plan or need for it.
    Minor nitpick. Bravo to Hodor for holding the door ...
    but really how far is Meera going to drag Bran before the wights finally break through. It's not like the fog is a physical barrier - thousands of wights could pretty easily track and find her. Oh well, maybe that will be next week, or maybe just left to "fantasy."
     
  18. BlameItOnTheHenne

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  19. MikeHoncho

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    First though

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  20. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    My take on the White Walkers, Bran, Hodor, and the three eyed Raven.



    Obviously, the highlight of the entire episode. Every scene had importance to the overall story. Lets start with the White Walkers... Apparently, they're not beings that exist within the world naturally. They were created from men, to kill men, from magic. Magic also appears to be their biggest weakness, if not their only weakness (Dragon Glass and Valyrian Steel).

    Even despite getting an origin or sorts for the White Walkers, we don't yet know their motivation. Are they simply mindless killers, executing their mission for which they were created? Or did the Children of the Forrest royally **** up, creating super soldiers that would eventually become "self aware" and evolve into having their own ideologies and culture? Given that they're creating more of themselves, I'd say the latter. I'm not sure how I feel about the origin of the White Walkers... I always liked believing they were natural beings from a distant time, slowly but surely acquiring numbers, and planning their attacks for an agenda that was truly purposeful, beyond just being "evil." Having said that, their origin being rooted in magic, does still leave some interesting possibilities for plot lines. Especially if their endgame motivation is ultimately satisfying, so I won't complain just yet.

    Poor, poor Hodor. I was pretty neutral on Hodor as a character. He lacked depth to make him interesting, but I always liked that he was without an agenda, just trying to protect Bran. This season, we've seen a little more character development with the flashbacks/time travel. When I saw his young self transform in this episode, I couldn't help but think of Bran's amazement that "Willis" wasn't always a simpleton a few episodes back. And the conversations with Hodor following played in my head, asking Hodor what happened to him... Ouch. That scene was sad and heart breaking. Bran wargs into Hordor, forcing a future/destiny onto Hordor, for which he never had a choice or understanding of, leaving his mind broken until death.

    Magic has a price. That seems to be the most important message to take away from this episode. It's not an all-powerful dues ex machina. GoT has always been about consequences, this is just another reminder.

    Now... the problem. I'm worried about the time traveling element. While the 3 Eyed Raven suggested that you cannot change the past, it's apparent that the past can be... I don't know the right word, but tampered with to create unnatural event with echos (literal and figurative) created. Ned Stark hearing Bran before climbing up to the Tower of Joy and now Hodor. What does this mean for the show? Was the 3ER lying? Maybe the past can be altered and he just says it can't be because he knows Bran is mature enough to grasp that power and the consequences just yet. Or maybe he's being honest and the past cannot be changed, but echos can be created and he knows Bran isn't mature enough to grasp that power and the consequences in turn. I'm nervous that this episode that opened a can of worms that might really undermine the plot and endgame.

    No doubt that Bran will continue his Jedi training and D&D described the final moments with 3ER and Bran, as the 3ER "uploading" his knowledge into bran at breakneck speed. Too fast for Bran to truly comprehend at the moment I imagine, but the pieces of the puzzle are now in his head to put together. Maybe we'll get more past events. In order to truly understand the White Walkers, I think Bran will have to travel back again. Perhaps we'll get the "Long Night" fight, when the realm banded together to defeat them the first time and in doing so, finally understand their motivation (assuming they have on, besides wanting to kill simply because that's the purpose for which they were created).

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    Anyone play the Mass Effect video game series? I feel like there's a lot of parallels between that series and GoT.
     
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  21. Uncle Tom

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    White walkers were not created by man in the episode I saw

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  22. Paul 13

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    The time travel thing... just in general... seems like some great shows always use that as a way to explain things in the end. Lost... Fringe... I could go on. It irks me.
     
  23. finfansince72

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    When they start using it to undo characters dying, that sort of thing it tends to derail good shows/books/movies. See the bad stuff never really happened! I thought it worked well with this episode though and worked into the storyline and created a great moment in the show's history.
     
  24. Stringer Bell

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    Couldn't one travel in time and prevent the whitewalkers from being created?

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  25. ToddPhin

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    Damn, 5 episodes in and still no Ian McShane yet. [​IMG]

    He must be one of the guys Jon Snow needs to fortify his force.
     
  26. schmolioot

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    The 3 eyed Raven told Bran that the past was "written in ink"

    Everything that is happening now has already happened. We just saw Bran fry Hodor's brain now, but to Hodor it happened decades ago
     
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  27. Fin D

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    Hodor is the only significant character on the show to die heroically, that I can think of.
     
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  28. Clark Kent

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    I kind of feel the same way (although, I didn't mind with Fringe given the nature of the show). I liked that 3ER/Bran could visit the past as a means of learning and understanding, sort of like a magic history book, but I feel like GoT/ASoIaF took a step too far in the wrong direction. Hopefully they tread lightly.
     
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  29. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Ned Stark? He was willing to sacrifice everything to save his children. Mance Rayder in his own way too, but he may not be "significant" enough.
     
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  30. Fin D

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    Ned Stark did not die heroically.
     
  31. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    I think he meant literally doing something heroic in the process of dying. Maybe Jojen?
     
  32. Fin D

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    Maybe Jojen. (I'm only saying "maybe" because I can't for the life of me remember how he died)

    Ned was doing nothing heroic when he died nor did he die under heroic circumstances. He died an ideological fool, on his knees. He got played.
     
  33. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    He did sacrifice his ideals to save his children.

    Joffrey just reneged on his deal
     
  34. Fin D

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    He was tricked into it though. He had way more power and influence then he realized and could have saved his family. In the end, his actions killed his wife, son, daughter-in-law & unborn grandson while also putting his eldest daughter through torture and his youngest daughter and son on the run for their lives.

    His intentions were noble, but he did not die heroically.
     
  35. Stringer Bell

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    We have seen Bran essentially talk to Ned Stark in the past.
     
  36. Paul 13

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    I disagree with that. It's a chicken v egg thing. Can't say with certainty one way or the other. Which makes it stupid.
     
  37. rafael

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    I agree. I'm not sure if the 3ER said that things in the past were written in ink b/c it was the truth or simply b/c Bran wasn't ready to learn that he did have the power to make changes.
     
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  38. Paul 13

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    Could also ask the question... was Bran only able to make that "change" because he could warg into Hodor? This ability is supposed to be limited to animals... yet he could gain access to Hodor.
     
  39. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Ned threw his ideology in the trash by admitting to treason, which he didn't commit, in order to take the black and save his family. That's heroic, IMO. Hard to say he got played, when all involved (excluding Joffery), knew Ned was more valuable alive than dead. Joffery did what he did for no strategic purpose and started the war of 5 Kings.
     
  40. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    He wasn't tricked into it.
    He knew exactly what he was doing at the end.

    He through away the ideals and was ready to take to the Black to save his family.

    Up to that point, his ideals did put him in a bad situation, however at the end he was willing to sacrifice them to save his family.
     
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