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Game of Thrones - Season 6

Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Fin D, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    http://imgur.com/a/p2mfe

    Sansa's letter decoded for anyone interested...


    Also, I've got a question about the Wildlings... How is it possible that they only have 2,000 fighting men? At one point, didn't Mance say they had 100k? Of those 100k, not all were warriors. Fair enough. But now, we're down to 5,000 total, with 2,000 warriors. I know they lost men and women during the Wall siege, and Hardhome. But the numbers aren't adding up at all. 95k are gone?
     
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  2. MikeHoncho

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    Looks like they are now wights.

    Would have needed quite a few more boats to get those numbers south.
     
  3. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Game Of Thrones thread... guess I'll do both.

    [video=youtube;X8bjvoHOSFs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8bjvoHOSFs[/video]
     
  4. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    So great that someone decoded her letter... although, not surprised to find out its contents.
     
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  5. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Another Theory about GoT. This one has to do with Bran and his potential legacy.

    Since "The Door," there has been a lot of speculation as to what Bran can and can not do in regards to "Time Travel." For non-book readers, one of the best parts of the series ASOIAF is the layered and awesome history that GRRM has created. His world building is truly amazing, IMO. One of the histories noted throughout the series, is that of Bran the Builder. He's a legendary member of the Stark family, known for having built the Wall and Winterfell... The new theory goes like this...

    Interesting... After reading that, I remembered another "Brandon Stark." The possible Night's King. The Night's King was formerly the 13th Lord Commander of the Nights Watch. He eventually married a women, who's features resemble a White Walker. He and his bride declared themselves King and Queen, and ruled the Nightfort (one of the Castles belonging to the Night's Watch). During this time, all sorts of horrible things were said to occur, such as sacrifices made to the White Walkers. After the Lord of Winterfell defeated him, his name was erased from history. Although, old Nan (Bran's nanny, seen in season 1), claims the original Night's King was a Stark... Named "Brandon."

    These theories don't have a lot of evidence going for them, but since we don't know the nature of Bran's time travel ability, anything's possible...
     
  6. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    6x8 is not my favorite episode of the season, that's for sure. Arya's conclusion wasn't satisfying whatsoever. Tyrion's plot was terrible. What's the point in making him Hand of the Queen if he can't do his job properly? Basically, he was filler. Wasting away telling dick jokes at Vary's expense and trying to make small talk with Greyworm and Mis. The writers couldn't come up with anything more compelling? Nothing to make his plot as Dany's hand worthwhile? This was the best they could come up with? Embarrassing, really. It's hard to believe anyone could be less competent a ruler than Dany, never mind Tyrion of all people.
     
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  7. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    The silver lining of Arya's story in Braavos is that it is finally over.
     
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  8. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Not a great episode. I enjoyed Clegane's scenes, but the end to the Arya storyline was weak. It feels like a waste of time. I didn't like how they left the end of the Mereen portion of the episode. Although I did enjoy Tyrion chatting with Greyworm and Mis. I didn't care for the writing in the Blackfish portion either. I would have expected those men to have more loyalty to the Blackfish than Edmure.
     
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  9. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Agreed, especially with the Blackfish. When they held the knife to Edmure's throat in the previous episode, no one objected to the Blackfish taking the lead and saying no deal. Edmure was as much their Lord then too. Even as a "free man," Blackfish made a sound argument, saying that Edmure's orders were not his own. And given how incompetent Edmure has shown himself to be, why would they stray from the Blackfish? It's a shame that Blackfish turned out to be such a minor character, I enjoyed him. At least he went out with some style... "I haven't had a proper sword fight in years, I suspect I'll make a damn fool of myself [/wry smile]."

    I did like Jaime's sequence though. Finally, he's starting to come alive again after being dreadfully boring for 2 seasons. Same for King's Landing. That part was good too.

    Question, when Qyborn said that there was more to the "rumors" that Cersei had him looking into, what did he mean? I forget what Cersei asked him to find. I remember the scene in which he became master of whispers, but only recall Cersei saying she wanted information on everyone who meant to make the Lannister losses their gains.
     
  10. Serpico Jones

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    The Kingslayer acted out of character. In the books he doesn't care about Cersei anymore and considers her evil, in the show he's still in love with her...sometimes.
     
  11. MikeHoncho

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    Weaksauce.
     
  12. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    I like this theory http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/13/game-of-thrones-is-this-cersei-lannisters-master-plan
     
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  13. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I kinda liked the episode. Sure, there was a lack of fighting scenes... I guess we could have seen Arya defeat the Waif. We could have seen the Blackfish go down. But you did see Clegane do his thing... and him meeting up with the Brotherhood Without Banners is baller.

    Side note... it is a bit odd to me that we haven't seen certain people die, only to be told later that they have been killed. Stannis... Blackfish... leaves it open to interpretation. And maybe Bran doing his thing at the right time eh?

    one minute Arya is telling Lady Crane that she wants to go west of Westeroos. To see what is out there. A nod to the days of early US exploration I guess... but then she tells the guy at the end that she is Arya Stark and is returning to her homeland. I suppose that's believable... she is on the run and can't go home... but then she has her redemption and wins her freedom to go home again. Certainly appears that at the end of it all there will be a big coming together to fight the evil that is coming thru that wall. The BWB seem to be headed that way.
     
  14. rafael

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    My guess was that it was about the alleged wildfire stores under the city. It's been speculated that she may want to burn the Septon's quarters down or if desperate enough all of King's Landing.
     
  15. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Yeah, that's interesting... We did see a scene in which Bran saw visions of Kings Landing tunnels being engulfed in wildfire. Obviously, that didn't happen in the past. We also got a glimpse of Young Jaime putting a sword in the back of the Mad King when he wanted to do the same thing. Maybe that vision foreshadows Jaime having to stop Cersei too?
     
  16. MonstBlitz

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    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Not a fan of Jaime's grovelling and pining over Cersei. The book Jaime seemed to be making a clean break from her and that seemed a much better direction. As it is, could it be that she is going to go crazy setting off wildfire and force Jaime to kill her just like he did the Mad King? Isn't the prophecy that she gets killed by a brother - long assumed to be Tyrion?

    Anyway, it was a typical Cersei, heavy-handed, two-steps behind the ball. Clearly the Sparrow sent his men to test the Mountain, and when he found that he will be unbeatable in combat, had Tommen make the decree. I fully expect Cersei to go full desperation mode and do something stupid (like when she gave the Church balls again, DOH!)

    Very sad we didn't see the dragons wrecking the **** out of the Master's fleet, though speculation is that Dany wants to capture it for transporting. This scene does make the whole Tyrion line superfluous though, very much a waste.

    Another waste was the Arya line. Almost Dornish levels of uselessness. I guess we assume she is a master assassin now, even though all we did was see her scrub floors and get beat up? Ugh.

    I swear to God though, just have Ramsey die next episode, please. They are certainly setting up pessimism for it though, which with this show is worrying.
     
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  18. rafael

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    That's my guess. She assumed the Valonquar was Tyrion and some have even guessed Tommen, but I see Jaime as the odds on favorite under that very scenario.
     
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  19. MikeHoncho

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    Red.
     
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  20. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Yeah, they could have wrapped up Arya's storyline in Braavos last week.
     
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  21. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Meh, I'm OK with both the books and TV show direction. If Jaime is the one to end her, then it might be more heartbreaking if he's in love with her.

    edit: Does Jaime even know she's charged with Incest (Lancel affair) at this point? Obviously he wasn't around during that time, but I don't ever remember the issue coming up.
     
  22. Clark Kent

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    [video=youtube;lyaVJyDZYU4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyaVJyDZYU4[/video]

    Inside the episode. Forgot to post it after the episode. It did bring to mind a few issues regarding Tommen's/Faith's decree that Trial by Combat no longer be practiced.


    1. Tommen must know that he's completely screwed his mother over. Which means he must know she's guilty of at least one of the three charges she's accused of (Treason, Regicide, and Incest w/Lancel Lannister). And there is the little issue regarding his true lineage. He's a Lannister, not a true Baratheon. Marcella was smart enough to figure it out, but Tommen isn't? I find that hard to believe given how far and widespread the rumors are.

    2. Doesn't his true lineage present an issue for the Faith? Their power currently lies in the hands of a boy king who doesn't truly have any right to the Throne.

    3. Loras is also on trial for being gay. And Margery was imprisoned because she was witness to it and actively hid that knowledge. Loras is guilty without TBC and his fate is sealed with Tommen's decision. I can't believe she would be on board with this decision. Unless she has a plan to get Loras out his predicament, which she probably does.

    Obviously, none of these trials will matter. I don't even think we will even see them. I'm very confident Cersei is going to blow the whole ****ing thing up. 1). She's said numerous times that she would burn "XYZ" to the ground if need be in previous seasons. Jaime said the same thing during 6x8 to Edmure, even he knows Cersei isn't ****ing around. We've seen wildfire loaded and exploding through tunnels in Bran's visions. Back in season 2, we saw Dany have a vision at the house of the undying, where she walked through an empty and destroyed Throne room (it looked like she was walking through snow, but maybe it was ash...). Unlike other theories, this one seems to have been built up through multiple seasons.
     
  23. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    This season seems to be the year of the come back... ex. Blackfish... Benjen...... so what of Gendry? Robert Baratheon's bastard (right?). last we saw him, Davos helped him escape. Nothing since. As this next episode is titled "Battle of the Bastards." Only appropriate to reintroduce him now? no??
     
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  24. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Person I most want to play drinking games with..

    Tyrion Lannister
     
  25. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Mmmmmmmmm, dat Ramsey scene at the end. Poetic.

    Otherwise ... very strong episode. Action was excellent, though the Bolton Phalanx was kind of odd. The cavalry charges were ****ing brutal **** though. Wun Wun busting through the door, the Knights of the Vale riding in to wreck **** on the Boltons, the dragons doing dragon ****, the masters getting whacked, Yara bargaining.

    Legit. One of the best episodes thus far. Now, we will see wtf Cersei does next week. Anyone else catch Tyrion talking about Aerys' plan to blow up King's Landing and mentioning the fire under the Sept? More foreshadowing? Will also be interesting to see if Sansa gives Peter what he wants.
     
  26. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    The action scenes were incredible. Really well done.

    I'm kind of surprised Tormund lived. I was expecting him to fall.
     
  27. MikeHoncho

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    Finally something awesome happening in Mereen.
     
  28. Clark Kent

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    [video=youtube;1k0YsrTBEYM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k0YsrTBEYM[/video]


    That battle scene was absolutely epic. I loved the chaos of it all. Reminded me of the opening scene in the Revenant. And we got Dragons... Loved the episode. And did anyone else pick up on that Ramsey comment?

    "I am part of you now." Sansa... pregnant?
     
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    Best episode yet


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  30. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    How can u not love that episode? Sad to see wun wun go. Such a great asset to have on your side on the battlefield.

    Littlefinger timed his romp perfectly. Thinking about what happens in the north now and who has the army.
     
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    Incredible production throughout. Both battles, but especially the Battle of Bastards.

    [video=youtube;B93k4uhpf7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B93k4uhpf7g[/video]
     
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  32. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think so. It's been months in their time. Couldn't hide it at this point
     
  33. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Ramsey in saying to Sansa that she is a part of him now (or whatever that was he said)... could have something to do with her being more and more ruthless. I mean, as she is walking away from his demise/dinner bell scene, she gives that smile... She seemed to enjoy that. That is certainly something that Ramsey would have done.
     
  34. texanphinatic

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    I took it as Ramsey trying to reassert control over Sansa. Like, "I raped you, I owned you, I own you still and will forever." Problem is he didn't have his hands on her nearly long enough to brainwash her. From a figurative sense, I would pair that with Paul's idea of part of Ramsey's brutality going to Sansa. I think the difference is Sansa can control it and doesn't let it control her. Ramsey played himself too well.

    I would be very dissapointed if it was a pregnancy thing. Not only can a pregnancy be terminated via moon tea quite easily, but there would be no logical reason for Sansa to NOT do it. It would just set up some lame, avoidable and likely cliche line. I would much rather see Sansa continue to develop and hopefully treat Littlefinger and Robin with an iron fist - we know the Knights of the Vale are loyal but not happy with either of those two. Plus, we have to close off stories with the end of the season and then series looming.

    Anyone else catch that Davos is unhappy with Melisandre and that she is hiding something from Jon? Could it be about more than Shireen? I mean, what would Jon care about her? Seems more like there is a price to rebirth that perhaps she did not tell Davos or Jon. And again, the mentions of wildfire in King's Landing and the Sept keep popping up. Hmmmm.
     
  35. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I do wonder if Jon's true parentage will be revealed next week

    Because the way they are shooting Jon and Sansa is romantic, especially that preview.
     
  36. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    It is not like the show doesn't have incest.

    Also, I do believe Jon is a Stark.
     
  37. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I didn't see anything romantic about their interactions in the preview. Just a brother and sister, who're the last remaining children of Ned Stark (they don't know Arya is alive). They've got no choice but to stay together. Littlefinger appears to be the one putting the moves on Sansa.
     
  38. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If the theory is true, they're cousins. They could get married in many states in 21st century America. In Westeros this would be even less of a problem
     
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  40. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    That's what I expect will happen. Jon is a Targaryan and it may be revealed when they bury Rickon in the crypt.
     

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