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****The Official 2015-16 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by TiP54, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 ZT = H.O.F. Club Member

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    Yes David Griffin is a winner. As VP of Basketball Operations from 2010-2014 the Cavs winning led them to win the lottery 3 out of 4 years. I think their record was 97-149. Huge winner there. The guy lucked into LeBron coming back. He gets ZERO credit as far as im concerned for winning that Championship. There are tons of GMs that are better than that clown.
     
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  2. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Lollll^ Fin o is trolling dont even fall for the bait
     
  3. MikeHoncho

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    ^^ :sidelol: @ Before and after LeBron James

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    Can't wait to hear your thoughts on Knicks getting their guy.
     
  4. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    I think we all know who the real GM of the Cavs is...
     
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  5. MikeHoncho

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    The dude with the 17' dong.
     
  6. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    "It's all part of the plan"

    Those lottery years led them to Kyrie and Love. The guy didn't have the luxury of fine weather, restaurants and women....yet STILL is an NBA champion.

    Crown.


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  7. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    I know
     
  8. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Stupid
     
  9. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Calling it right now, Kris Dunn will be the best player to come out of this year's draft by a large margin. I loved me some providence and that guy can definitely play and will be a superstar.
     
  10. biggiesmalls3k1

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    He definitely has the build. He has good size to defend 2-4, to me he seems like a more offensively polished version of Justise Winslow. Minnesota has a very intriguing group of players, if they can flip Dunn for someone proven like Jimmy Butler as rumored, the pick is even better.
     
  11. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    I dont like comparing anyone to Wade, everyone that has been compared to Wade has been a bust so far.. But his attacking ability and post game, his vision on the court and playmaking ability, l plus very solid defensively. At 6'4.. Hes got the most polished and complete skillset in this draft and i think he will ascend to be a great player in this league.
     
  12. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    No. He had the Luxury of winning the Lottery 4 years in a row, and the luxury of LeBron James tumbling out of his mothers Vagina in Akron.
     
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    Celtics butchering their trade talks, and then butchering their draft...was DELICIOUS.
     
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    LOL. Yeah..David Griffin is the GM.

    BTW, LeBron James is friends with Brandon Weems, who is boys with Kay Felder.
     
  15. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Knicks with a spectacular post draft signing: Ron Baker SG Wichita St.

    Supposedly knicks chose not to buy picks because a) the amount those 2nd rounders were going for b) A lot of the players they want were still available.
     
  16. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    And now let's talk about Tyron Lue.

    One HELLUVA coaching job that will go unnoticed. He changed the pace of a team who outpaced the best pace team in the league.

    Tyron got a job, hey Tyron!


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    I thought he did a great job in changing the Team's playing style. Yes.
     
  18. Stitches

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    Griffin wasn't GM until 2014. Chris Grant was the GM in all those lottery years. As VP of Basketball Ops he didn't pick players.
     
  19. finfansince72

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    Anthony Bennett. I'll give them credit for that pick, taking a guy who can't score, play defense or even be on an NBA roster a few years after being taken #1 overall was really thinking outside the box.
     
  20. biggiesmalls3k1

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    The Celtics really overplayed their hand, they had all of these first round picks to play with the last 2 seasons and did the bare minimum with them. Danny Ainge has to be kicking himself for not coming through with that trade with Charlotte or Miami to take Justise last year.

    This is just my opinion guys. David Griffin, Dan Gilbert, the rest of the clowns that have done anything in Cleveland the last couple seasons have nothing to hang their hat on. The way that team performed when LeBron left is a true measure of that franchise. Yes they are Champions, that is 100% on the back on one man, David Griffin and his predecessor Chris Grant handed out contracts like candy to guys that are pretty much fillers on a roster. Shumpert got paid, Mozgov got paid, Love got paid, Tristan Thompson's contract is atrocious despite his run in the Finals. The guy is not worth half of what he's getting.

    The fact is this, had LeBron James not been born in Ohio, had Pat Riley pulled a Dan Gilbert and allowed LeBron to run roughshod over the organization and do as he pleases, and I think also his wife had a part in going back, she saw what happened to Dwyane's high school sweetheart marriage once he got to Miami, LeBron never leaves Miami to go back. The fact that he went back to a Franchise that won 97 games in 3 seasons and "Won" the #1 Pick 3 of the 4 years he was gone, is still baffling to me. As a Heat fan it is still a slap in the face.
     
  21. Section126

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    That is not accurate. I have it with as good a source as you can, that His Wife and His Mother wanted him to stay. (They were treated like queens by the Heat Org.....His Boys? not so much.)
     
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  22. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    I...liked the OKC trade?

    I get why it's insane - Ibaka is one of the few big dudes who can be a nuisance when switched onto Curry - so it seems insane at first. But this is sort of what they did with Harden and what the Pats always do - flip an asset before you get locked into overpaying and being inflexible. Ibaka was going to be a FA and hasn't been as good the last 1-2 years as he was prior.

    Instead of looking at having Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka all staring down FA next year (or Durant knowing if he signs, those guys could be gone) now they have a clearer long-term vision. They're going to be deeper - and a big reason they lost that GS series was just that they were worn down cuz they had zero bench.

    I like the trade AND think it makes them more likely to keep Durant. Westbrook-Oladipo-Durant-Ilyasova/Sabonis/Kanter-Adams is fun!
     
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  23. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    Celtics fans woke up this morning realizing there is no Santa.
     
  24. schmolioot

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    Living in Orlando and seeing the Magic quite a bit, I truly do not understand the infatuation with Oladipo. He's ok. Nice player. But he's nothing spectacular
     
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  25. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    I guess I think they can use Dipo sort of how GS uses Iggy. Let him focus on defense and the little stuff and his scoring is just a bonus. Maybe I'm overrating his defense.
     
  26. Stitches

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    Um, when did Mozgov get paid?
     
  27. Fin-O

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    Offering 3-1 odds to anyone Knicks are a playoff team this year. #dreambig


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  28. RoninFin4

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    Do you think Ibaka helps them or too early to tell with Vogel & new coaching staff?
     
  29. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well, I don't follow them intently but a front line of Vucevic/Ibaka is really good

    I think they're a borderline playoff team
     
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    Among SG's (qualifying minutes)...Dipo shot 35.8% in catch and shoot situations. That is GOD AWFUL.
     
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    Offering 1-9 that you will be disappointed with the season come April.
     
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    It's a bonanza. Vogel is as good a defensive coach as there is, and his concepts are GREAT, when operating with a small ball roster as he showed last season with Indiana. Ibaka is among the best small ball Centers in basketball.

    It's why he gave the Dubs so much trouble. OKC doesn't have that now, and they kinda needed it in that series they took a 3-1 lead in.
     
  33. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    Questions will be -

    A) Does Ibaka re-sign there

    B) Is he worth the contract he's going to get on a team with little else and his play slipping a bit
     
  34. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    And that's fair. I just think there was no way to sell Durant on having to re-sign all 3 of their big 3 plus fill a team around them next offseason.

    And the downgrade at PF is much smaller than the upgrade at SG. Even if you don't love Dipo, his competition was Roberson and Waiters.
     
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    The SportsBuzz column is saying nothing new, BTW. They just reveal what we all knew. If they move on from Hassan, Plan B is Al Horford. I told you all that at the deadline.

    On Joakim Noah, I know they want him as a third big, but I think they are delusional if they think they will get him at what they want to pay ($24mil for 3)
     
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    That is also fair. But would keeping Ibaka, and signing a Courtney Lee.....a much better Fit?
     
  37. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    For this year - but makes next offseason nearly impossible. Just don't think they could go into one offseason with Ibaka, Westbrook, and Durant all free agents. This gives them a little bit more stability and depth to show Westbrook and Durant next offseason.

    Not saying this was a slam-dunk move. Ibaka is awesome and perfect for their biggest nemesis. But I understand the long-term thinking. And Steven Adams' emergence probably helped quite a bit.
     
  38. sports24/7

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    Any new info? Still plan A: KD? plan B: status quo? Any reason for optimism for plan A?
     
  39. ckparrothead

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    The unfortunate news in that Sports Buzz column was that a friend of Whiteside's said that tax advantages will not be a factor because if he gets traded to a state with taxes he would be **** out of luck. That seems a bit paranoid.

    That's bad news for the Heat. The Mavs are in the same tax situation but the Blazers are not, so it takes away a potential advantage versus Portland.
     
  40. Boik14

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    Personally I don't think Noah is worth that. His best days are behind him and he's constantly hurt. He may get that or more but I wouldn't want to be the team that gave it to him.
     
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