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4 things that cost us the game

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by GISH, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    • Going for it on 4th and short in the first half instead of taking a FG was the difference in the game
    • Our defense is still tough when it doesnt count, and soft when it counts.
    • The offense needs to be more vertical. The play calling seemed far too focused on lateral movement, which never works against good defenses.
    • Having that kick blocked was all Franks fault. He is kicking way too low.
     
  2. Pennington's Limp Arm

    Pennington's Limp Arm Well-Known Member

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    Hahah Franks?

    and no Mention of Stills?
    C'mon man he cost us 7... no two ways about it. Flashback to the Ginn days.
     
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  3. JShady

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    I like the going for it. I remember people would always get on Tony Sparano for never going for it and always taking the three.
     
  4. Oghma

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    The defense were on the field for so long I feel bad for them. But I'm also tried of being in those situations and knowing that we will give up a long drive for a TD. Seems like it's been that way for decades. I knew we were going to lose as soon as we scored

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  5. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    1. Kenny Stills
    2. Kenny Stills
    3. Kenny Stills
    4. Kenny Stills

    Honorable Mention: Kenny Stills.
     
  6. cbrad

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    Sorry you can't blame the defense for this. They were great. Giving up 12 points to Seattle? Ultimately it's points allowed that's the best measuring stick. And when it's the offense that's primarily responsible for the 10 minute difference in ToP, don't expect the defense to hold up the entire game.

    Offense lost this.

    And regarding coaching, Vance Joseph might be the coach we got lucky with. Gase hasn't shown he can fix this offense yet. Of course it's only 1 game so we'll see how the season turns out.
     
  7. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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  8. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Going for it on 4th and short was the right call.

    Stills dropping an easy TD LOL.

    Franks LOL
     
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  9. DolphinGreg

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    I think some people tune in for just the last 30 minutes of games.
     
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  10. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    First of all, guys, you can do this every single week. There are always going to be critical plays in games that break your heart or that you casually forget about when they go your way.

    The blocked FG was just as much Laremy Tunsil as it was Franks. The Seahawks got through Tunsil and the kick was low. The two things combined to yield a blocked FG.

    It's the offense that worries me in the long run. Why didn't the team get more aggressive in the 2nd and 3rd quarter? Why did the offense wait so long before switching things up? You can't put your defense on the field for the entire game by constantly letting the Seahawks kick your teeth in as you run short stuff and hand-off knowing they're going to eat it up.

    Tannehill threw for 186 yards today with the highest receiver have 60 yards. That's pretty pathetic even against Seattle.
     
  11. brandon27

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    Yeah... not mentioning Kenny Stills dropping that easy TD is #1 for me.

    I thought we played soft coverage the final drive though. Defense was outstanding all day though. Questionable decisions not to call holding,e specially on that final drive were pretty brutal.

    Hopefully Gase sends alot of this tape to NFL head office for review though.
     
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  12. jdang307

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    Can't blame the defense. It's not like they gave up the gwd to Mark Sanchez or someone. They could have won the game for us (stopping Wilson) but didn't lose the game for us, if you get what I mean.
     
  13. JDelenne

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    I think going for it on 4th down was the right call. Though I think it should have been a QB Sneak rather than a handoff.
     
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  14. Vertical Limit

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    4th and short is fine, if you called a qb sneak..

    Kenny Stills is the biggest loser of the day..
     
  15. Finrunner

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    We left at least 13 points on the field, pure and simple. The missed 4th down that should have been a sneak. Kenny Stills' dropped TD, the blocked FG...

    ...while you might say we could have stole one on the road, I kind of feel like Seattle stole one at home. They had more turnovers, and the Dolphins probably outplayed the Seahawks marginally.

    This one hurts.
     
  16. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    What cost us the game: Kenny Stills is a f**king bum.
     
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  17. DolphinGreg

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    I don't think you can call a QB sneak when you watched Steen get blown up multiple times against Atlanta in preseason. I didn't like the 4th down call for the simple reason that it's a low-scoring affair in which 3 point can mean a lot (ahem!) and you're on the road against a good defense with a line that hasn't necessarily given you any particular reason to feel they can gain even a yard when called upon to do so.

    Gase showed A TON of faith in the O-line calling that 4th-down play and I for one have no faith in the line right now so I wouldn't have made the call. Easy for me to say, I know. I'm not on the sideline but man, that's a brash call.

    Remember Adam, this ain't Denver! ;)
     
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  18. RoninFin4

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    Four things that most cost Miami the game:

    1) Going for it on 4th down in the 1st quarter and not taking the FG.
    2) Kenny Stills' drop.
    3) Tunsil's gaffe on blocked FG.
    4) Defensive breakdown on Seattle's 4th down conversion on their TD drive.

    Miami, and this is one of the few times you can say it and mean it, should have had that game put away before that Seattle drive.
     
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  19. DolphinGreg

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    Well said. I agree 100%.
     
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  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    It was Cam Chancellor who stopped that play.

    I would have went QB Sneak. He just needed a few inches and the defense was not ready for a qb sneak. There was no one over Steen during that play as well.

    I think a line up and quick sneak would have worked.
     
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  21. DolphinGreg

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    Ah, well, if that's the case then yeah, you'd like to have a QB who's going to recognize that and just take it himself. That was a huge swing in the game, no doubt about it.
     
  22. texanphinatic

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    That's the kind of thing Brady does all the damn time. We need more awareness in situations like that.
     
  23. resnor

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    Convenient talking about Tannehill's stats, but they look very different if he has the yards on Stills drop + the td. Those would be respectable numbers against Seattle.

    And, AGAIN, Tannehill was getting smashed on most plays.
     
  24. djphinfan

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    Offense sucked, play calling sucked, QB sucked, receivers sucked, oline sucked.
     
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  25. Dorfdad

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    We got 15 more! I'm upset this was a chance to get 1 up in the division.
     
  26. muskrat21

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    if it's a 30-30 game and the offense has 900 total yards of offense and 1 turn over, but that turnover lead to the other team winning, it's still the offense fault for the loss. same thing applies to defense. the simple matter is, the offense got the lead and there was less than 2 minutes left and the defense decided to visit the original starbucks instead of play the last 2 minutes.
     
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  27. muskrat21

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    when the WR blocks the tackler into the ball carrier instead of letting him overrun the play doesn't help.
     
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  28. Pennington's Limp Arm

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    17-29 for 246 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT (If Stills catches)
    5 carries for 17 yards and 1 TD

    If Stills catches, Franks Hits FG/Tunsil blocks, and Gase takes the FG early the Dolphins actually put up 23 points.

    Not saying it was a great performance, very blah at times. But if a couple simple (very, very simple) plays are executed... its a different result.
    Also, aside from the Tannehill bashing, the run game s very static and uninspiring too.
     
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  29. Vertical Limit

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    Im not gonna put any blame on Tannehill in this one after what Kenny Stills did..

    Cant give blame to the defense either, allowed a game winning touchdown but if youre only giving up 12 points, then they did their job.

    Gase did not have this offense prepared for the crowd noise. Im going to have to give him the bulk of the blame here.
     
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  30. Silverphin

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    Yeah, Stills really screwed the pooch.
     
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  31. Brasfin

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    Gase said in his post-game presser that he did not regret that and is going to do it a lot more during the season. In hindsight, it cost us the game, but I liked going for it in that situation at the time.
     
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  32. Pennington's Limp Arm

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  33. Fin-O

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    I can't call it a breakdown when our DT beat his man, and was about to plant Wilson into the ground before his jersey was mugged. RIGHT IN FRONT OGF THE OFFICIAL.
     
  34. GISH

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    Are you more upset that stills dropped tannehills first ever accurate deep pass? Or more upset that every vertical pass for the rest of the game was uncatchable?

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  35. Destroyer

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    best reaction ever. the only good thing to come of this game.
     
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  36. Shane Falco

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    I would have caught that 10 of 10 times.


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  37. dWreck

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    Just think, there are a ton of people out there right now blaming Tannehill for this.
     
  38. Shane Falco

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    Just stupid people and I ignore them


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  39. cbrad

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    That's a terrible way of assigning blame. What happened to get to 30-30 matters. You act like it doesn't.

    You have to add up the credit/blame for all the plays in the game, not just the ones in the last 2 minutes! I mean.. the way you state that the amount of blame is the same even if there were 4 pick 6's and a safety on either side of the ball.
     
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  40. BigNastyDB13

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    Did he even throw a vertical pass the rest of the game? He had to have thrown more passes short of 6 yards than over 6 yards. We had no intermediate passing at all this game. Everything was dink n dunks despite it obviously not working against the zone. Thats the most disappointing to me, the lack of adjustments from Gase and the offense. Its clear that no matter who is calling plays this offense will never threaten a defense with Thill at QB. He will also never threaten a defense by breaking the pocket on his own.
     
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