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Being a dolphins fan is the worst.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by magicap, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. magicap

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    Go ahead ban me I am sick of this disgrace of a franchise. Blow it up and start over. Geez


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  2. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Gonna be a popular sentiment this week fo sho.
     
  3. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    We may have to accept that this will be a long year. But I think the expectation was we would start 0-2. I wished we were competitive this game to feel better about things


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  4. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This kind of game makes you wonder if "staying competitive" is going to be the goal. That's typically what you hear from teams who win 2 or 3 games. Staying competitive is not a phrase you want to hear...​ever.
     
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  5. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    On the road first two games is what I meant


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  6. Not So Fast

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    Had us pegged at 5-11 this year, so this pretty much what I expected. Belicheck is demonstrating his prowess over Gase.
     
  7. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No excuses this week. Everything was in line for this to go Miami's way. They're being exposed.

    My #1 problem with this team is that they don't win. I know that sounds stupid but for real, they just don't win. Good teams aren't necessarily getting better breaks, they simply find ways to make plays that Miami doesn't. Last week was no moral victory. It was a heart-breaker. It wasn't a game you put up as a moral win. It was a game you bury and try to forget: dropped balls, missed kicks, big plays given up on D, etc.

    This week it's just painful to watch.

    As I write this, Garropalo is going out so maybe Miami can be competitive now.
     
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  8. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't really know what to think. There's like a stink looming over the roster.. it's intangible but it's just the way it feels.
     
  9. magicap

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    Thanks guys for not putting me on blast mode I just really needed to vent. I am so frustrated. Year after year.


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  10. BigNastyDB13

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    They wont be conpetitive regardless of who is the QB for NE. Its not so much that this team sucks because most of us expected that. Except for the fans who still havent realized Tannehill is a below avg QB who will never win in this league. The rest of us arent shocked. What bothers me and is laughable at the same time is the complete incompetence. Its 1 thing to lose but the Dolphins cant do the easiest of things. Even taking a snap is a challenge for this bunch. I literally said as soon as Landry caught that pass "dont fumble fighting for an extra yard dumbass" and sure enough. If the offense wasnt so boring and incompetent it wouldnt be so bad. If this team at least had a future it wouldnt be so bad but we have almost no young talent. No playmakers on either side of the ball other than Reshad Jones. Hell, if we just had a good young QB there would be hope. But we dont. We have a veteran who in a good year is middle of the pack and his next big win will be his first, even going back to college.
     
  11. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    And as soon as i say "i wonder how they will screw this up" thill throws a pick right to the guy on 2nd and 2. Lock right onto him thill. Lol...this team is complete garbage. Tannenbaum is just stupid enough to keep a scrub QB for big money.
     
  12. cbrad

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    Everyone's playing bad today. Pathetic offense and pathetic defense (except for the injury to Garoppolo).

    Yeah, if this is what we look like rest of the season, best to blow things up and start over.
     
  13. DolphinGreg

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    Watching the Dolphins makes you angry because it's a lesson in hype.

    Every year we hear about how a bad organization is going too turn it around and it never happens. And at the same time we always find some reason to believe the good organizations are going to fall off or get exposed yet they continually rise up against adversity. Any defense of this first half in regards to the HC, the play-calling, the QB, the defensive performance or the schedule is rightfully going to sound like a homeristic apology.

    Apologies are not only meaningless but they stop you from realizing where you're lacking and from moving on. For that very reason I promised myself that I wouldn't apologize for the QB this year or talk-up the unproven HC.

    Instead, I chose to wait, be patient and let those guys prove to me what they are. Last week, we saw this team fail to win a very winnable game that would've made a statement. This week, they show up only to be outclassed on every level by a team riddled with injuries.
     
  14. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    I may be beating an old drum, but bringing in "big name" free agents clearly isn't a recipe for success. All we have done is effectively bandaged a wound, when the ****ing leg needs to be cut off.

    New England acquires football players who know the game from a film-room perspective, whose play styles accentuate each other's strengths and hide each other's weaknesses, and ultimately reinforce the coordinators schemes. They do not bother with the players Miami salivates over. For Christ's sake, look at New England's offense today - not a single household name, and they mopped the floor with our "star-studded" defense. If that doesn't send a loud and clear message to the Miami management, I really don't know what will.
     
  15. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes and no.

    I agree with the point you're making but the only expensive, big-name FA is Ndamukong Suh and by and large he does his job.

    The other guys are the kind of FA additions you find on all teams. Jason Jones, Mario Williams, Kiko Alonzo, Byron Maxwell and Isa Abdul-Quddus are not high-paid, high-profile signings. They are all guys who were brought in to fill out the roster and play a position.


    In reality, it's more about the talent that's left the building: Sean Smith, Vontae Davis, Karlos Dansby, etc. You trade Vontae Davis for a 2nd round pick and use it on a CB that's now gone? I mean...there's no defending that. That's a straight up loss of talent.

    So, to use your analogy...it's more like cutting off a limb each year and wondering why you seem to be growing less productive.
     
  16. cbrad

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    Well.. like the defense was a potential ray of hope last game, this game it was how the offense played in the 2nd half.

    Of course.. defense **** the bed, and we'll have to wait for the next game to see if the 2nd half offense was real.

    Either way we lost.. again.
     
  17. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Reality check.

    This Miami team had major issues last year. Getting a new coach and a couple new pieces doesn't automatically fix that. This isn't Madden; starting a new season isn't like hitting reset on your PS4. Yes it's frustrating to lose, and yes we had a surprising opportunity to beat the Pats at home without Gronk and Brady, but we are where we all expected we would be, with a new coaching team, new offense, and a long road ahead.

    A lot of people can save themselves some serious stress this season by resetting their expectations. Expect to lose. Expect mistakes. Watch instead for signs of growth as the season progresses, and try to just enjoy each game for what it is.

    If you can't, and you're only desire is to see the Phins make the Superbowl, or playoffs, send me your Twitter account or something and I'll page you when its time.
     
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  18. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Reality, I am afraid is Garrapolo doesn't get hurt , they put up 63-70 points. Please dont let this comeback take away who this team is


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  19. mlb1399

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    I figured we would be a 4-6 win team this year. As much as it sucks, it is the reality of the situation. We have major holes on this team on both sides of the ball. you just can't start over every 2-4 years and expect to be successful in this league.
     
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  20. rdhstlr23

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    For me, the problem is I have zero faith in the people in charge of filling those holes and making this team better. We continually try to acquire players that aren't as talented and hope we can "coach them up", while we allow players like Lamar Miller, Olivier Vernon, etc. to just leave with little return in comp picks, which again...same guys making those picks.

    Mike Tannenbaum should have zero decision making ability on personnel matters. Zero.

    To the credit of the organization we poured in resources to improve LB, CB, and OL this offseason. However, the person making that decision (Tannenbaum) is someone I have no faith in. We also created a MASSIVE hole at RB.
     
  21. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I we win 4 games this year, then everyone should be fired. I mean everyone.

    We have some gaping holes, but this isn't a 4 win, Top 5 pick team. It just isn't. The talent level isn't that poor to be picking there. Not with winnable games against Cleveland, Baltimore, Buffalo (x2), Rams, 49ers, and the Chargers. Not to mention the surprise of a win here and there against team(s) we don't expect which happens every year.
     
  22. mlb1399

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    What makes you say that?

    We still don't know what we have in Tannehill. Our RB's are a backup and a guy who has spent the last 3 years injured. Our TE can't catch the ball. We've invested 4 first round draft picks in our OL and they are still average to below average. We have two good receivers, Stills can't be depended on.

    On defense, Suh hasn't lived up to his big pay day. Our big, bad DL was absolutely stonewalled by NE's OL. I'm not sure any of our LB's would start on a good team. Maxwell was given away by Philly. We have very little depth. Factor all of that in with a rookie head coach.

    This NE game was over by half. They outmanned us in every phase of football without their two best players.

    I'm not trying to be a negative nelly here but just don't think we are very good. We are a couple of injuries away from being the worst team in the NFL.
     
  23. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    Well, I also pegged them at around a 4-7 win team, but you always hope to be surprised to the upside because it keeps you interested. It should, for sure, get easier, but actually sitting down and watching a 6 win team and the reality of doing that going forward isn't a very satisfying way to spend Sundays.
     
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  24. BigNastyDB13

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    Agreed except on a few things. We have 1 talented, young playmaker on O in Parker. We have a good T prospect in Tunsil. On D we have 1 playmaker in Jones. 1 overrated wasted paycheck in Suh and a bunch of garbage @ linebacker. Alonso is the biggest ***** ive ever seen, jenkins is clueless, almost gets hit in the face with a pass without even knowing it. Agree completely with the team lacking talent.

    I disagree on a few things tho. 1) we do know what we have in thill. He isnt young anymore. Been in the league almost half a decade now. We already know he is below avg most days and middle of the pack on a good year. 2) the oline is pass blocking really well. Thill had all day to throw. The run blocking still sucks but our halfbacks are the least talented bunch in football as well with Foster predictably hurt
     
  25. Tin Indian

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    WE all knew this team had holes especially on the defensive side of the ball. I think we got a bit of fools gold last week from the D. Today they played like I thought they would before the season started. Maxwell does not look good and Howard looks like, well, a rookie. My biggest gripe is that the coaches seem to be adjusting a bit too slowly.

    This is a young team that is not complete, but even so, they will learn how to win these type of games. Now lets all back away from the ledge.
     
  26. dWreck

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    accurate title. it really is the worst.
     
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  27. adamprez2003

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    six of eleven starters on defense are new. Thats more than half. Theyre simply not on the same page play to play right now. it should improve as the season goes. Hopefully by week eight we will have our defense playing disciplined football
     
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    Well away from here
    Well at least we won't have to wait very long to hear our first rounders' again this year. And **** me do we need more than one.
     
  29. DolphinGreg

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    There are some positives moving forward.

    Ja'wuan James is quietly emerging as a very solid pass-blocking RT and his run-blocking is not half bad. He had a good preseason and I've seen nothing from him in 2 games that leads me to believe he's a weakness. With Branden Albert on the other side this year and Laremy Tunsil waiting in the wings to inherit the LT position, I'd say Miami is more than set at those two spots.

    I also like what I've seen so far from Kenyan Drake. He's not a feature RB but he appears to be a weapon of some value. He's fast and can catch. A good OC will appreciate what he brings to the table and utilize him.

    Generally speaking, I like what I see from the WRs. Between Landry, Stills, Parker and Carroo I think Miami is set at the position for the time being.

    On defense I like a lot of the pieces--too many to name to be quite honest. Because of that, I'm going to hold off on judging the unit until I see more. They played well together against Seattle and today the other shoe dropped. Nothing seemed to go well. The bad news is that the temporary rushers don't seem quite up to the job of providing pressure early in the game. Without OV in the mix, Miami is without a true impact pass rusher and it showed today. The rush needs to be consistently in the face of the QB to work and there's no one on the D-line that did that today.
     
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  30. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    When? I've been waiting for them to win these types of games since 2001, with 2008 being the only year they actually managed to pull it off.
     
  31. All i know is when somebody asks me who my team is, im embarassed to answer them.

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  32. magicap

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    Jawuan James is looking incredible ain't he?



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    It's looking worse. Still feeling good about that d?


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  34. MikeHoncho

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    I just say "Manchester City" and keep walking.


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  35. Kud_II

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    If they banned everyone who is miserable as a dolphin fan there would be no forum. Sometimes I can't decide if I love or hate this team more. But I've been a fan since childhood so I find it virtually impossible to quit as a fan. It's torture.
     
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    It sucks losing, I get that. But firing a staff who is rebuilding after four games so we can rebuild again sounds counterproductive. Most of the fans I've talked to expected 6 to 8 wins this year. I do think this could be Tannehill's last year with the team. Unfortunately, I think he will be the scapegoat by seasons end.
     
  37. rdhstlr23

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    Sorry that I didn't see this response.

    My reasoning is this.

    We have a good defensive line. Whether they play below expectations throughout the course of a season or not, they're too talented to not show up for at least 6 games. They've showed up for 1 full game thus far (Seattle) and we did lose it.

    We have a solid starting defensive back group. Again, I know it's "sky is falling", but Quddus and Jones are one of the better safety tandems in the league. Xavien Howard has played well. He just got beat a few times by a guy that's an All-Pro who simply made All-Pro plays, but he really was in position to make plays and made attempts to make those plays. The starting opposite CB is a weak spot, but how many team's in the NFL don't have a CB that is "picked on". Bobby McCain is solid in his slot/nickel role.

    Our LB unit is poor. It is what it is. However, they played really solid against the run last night with the Hewitt, Alonso, Butler trio. Hewitt missed some tackles, but he's going to. He's not an overly big guy, or overly athletic guy. He was undrafted for a reason. Yet, he played admirably. We're going to get upset about this group more and more this year.

    The OL, with health, is going to be the best pass blocking unit we've had in Tannehill's time here. It was through the first 3 games and it will be when Albert and Pouncey are back. That's just true. Thus, Tannehill will have games where he remains clean. Is he inconsistent? Sure is, but he has game's that are gems. He'll have 8 games where he shows up. Hopefully we win those.

    Our running game isn't going to be good all year. It just isn't. Even if we block it better, we don't have a single guy on our team that makes you feel good about running the ball. Ajayi flashed signs last night. But, every RB is still hesitant as they are searching through holes. Foster is our most decisive runner, but he's hurt and the injuries plus age have sapped his explosiveness.

    Lastly, the coaching is just going to sure and take effect as the season goes on. I believe that. A lot of these mistakes will be minimized as we go along and they gain some confidence. Not to mention, I have faith they will start to see what these guys do well and what we can call to work.

    Again, I think our team is going struggle at times this year, but I just don't see this as a 4 win team. If there are, then I have serious reservations about the ability in this coaching staff - who I believe in.
     

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