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  1. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    We've been seeing the same thing for years from this team. No one should be surprised by it at this point.
     
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  2. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Tannehill didn't look like he needed to be replaced in the first. The offense was out of sync, but let's not be melodramatic.
     
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  3. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    It's bad enough making crappolo look like a HOFer, just how the **** you can't stop the run if you know they're going to run?
     
  4. cbrad

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    To me he did. You know we have different thresholds for replacement.
     
  5. BigNastyDB13

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    If you have hope youre going to be disappointed. I wouldnt put more weight in 2 qtrs of mostly garbage time than 6 qtrs of the game being played at full speed. Its mind boggling anybody would be optimistic or happy with the way they have played. They have been the worse offense in football the first 6 qtrs of the season. Their D predictably got run over by Blount of all people despite knowing the run was coming. You have hope after beating yourself week 1 due to inept offense and trailing 31-3 to a team without their 2 best players. I wouldnt be at all surprised if Cle beats us next week. Id be shocked if Miami finishes the season with 8 wins tho. We have Parker and Jones, 1 guy on each side of the ball who are legit playmakers and a whole lot of avg to pathetic players in between. We literally look like we just picked up a football for the first time for large chunks of the game. Fumbles, drops, mis throws, missed fgs, jenkins wirh his head up his ***, missed shotgun snaps, cant even tackle a qb once you have them wrapped up, play 12 yards off on 3rd and 9, almost get hit in the face on a ball that shouldve been picked. List goes on and on. Its embarrassing to be a Dolphins fan and its boring as ****. The offense is incredibly boring and the defense is soft as ****. The team is incredibly predictable. I called the Landry and Ajayi fumbles. Could see it coming a mile away. Get used to the **** show.
     
  6. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    You arent wrong. We had what 3 passing yards for the first qtr and a half? Lol...the only decent drive we had at the end of the half and thill throws it out of bounds to Parker resulting in a fg. Couldve been the difference in the game. Didnt give him much of a chance at the end of the 4th either. And why are we throwing that 3rd down, next to last play to Stills? Stills isnt winning s contested ball. The guy is garbage. Tannehill is what he is. He isnt going to drastically get better and he still fails to even give a guy like Parker a chance to make a play on that final play. Hes not a winner. Never has been. Not all his fault but im not the least bit surprised when you look at his college and nfl career. He has never won a damn thing. At least he still has fun losing. Nice to see him smiling while leading one of the most embarrassing offenses in the league. No big surprise he put up big numbers in garbage time either. Next week will be fun. Maybe we can beat a team more on our level. Going to be a battle with the Bills to hopefully get out of the AFC East cellar this year.
     
  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i know. sad it is
     
  8. ChrisKo

    ChrisKo Season Ticket Holder

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    3 pages in, so maybe it's just me, but I'd rather see our team play a full 60 minutes. :sneaky:
     
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  9. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    We go into the biweek 3-7
     
  10. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Well, your problem is simple- just stop being a Dolphins fan and you won't have to focus solely on the negatives any more. And grats on mystically "calling the Landry and Ajayi fumbles". I can't imagine any fan actually taking pride in that just to create an argument.
     
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  11. khat

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    You guys have to realize that it's the team's second game in a new system. We just played two perennial playoff teams at their places, on opening day, and almost came out with wins. If these games were played later in the year, we win. We need to be patient and let the team gel.

    By the way, there is no way you can put this loss on Tannehill.
     
  12. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Garrapolo was on fire. He really played outstanding, that's tough he's a China doll, though. Kiko is what, 237 lbs.?

    Their TE Bennett was outstanding,as well. Glad Cameron caught that TD.

    Well, good thing Mercury in retrograde is over on the 22nd. Communication sucked to the point of Tanny's headset malfunctioning.

    Brown's at home, finally.
     
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  13. BigNastyDB13

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    I wish it were that easy. I wish i could be clueless like yourself and see positives in a game that was 31-3. We got dominated vs a team in our division despite being riddled with injuries. Enjoy your letdown when the Dolphins finish in last place again. I dont mind if you want to be a blind homer. I would just wait until the team actually plays competently for a game before proclaiming a rosy future. It wasnt hard to see the turnovers coming. The fins are incredible at beating themselves.
     
  14. jw3102

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    I am one of those posters the Tannehill backers hate. Because I never wanted the Dolphins to draft him and I often question if he will ever be good enough to help this team be anything but mediocre.

    Yet even I will admit that Tannehill is not the problem with this team right now. The defense is the major issue and the lack of a reliable RB is a huge issue for the offense. Not signing Miller was a definite mistake, because they don't have a RB on their roster at this time who is nearly as good as Miller.

    Also I think some fans are being fooled by the close score today. The reality is that if Garroppolo had not gone down with an injury, the game wouldn't have been nearly as close. The Patriots were forced to completely abandon their offensive game plan when their third string rookie QB had to take over for Garropollo.

    The Dolphins defense had no answer for stopping the Patriots offense with Garroppolo in the game.

    I still have questions regarding Tannehill, but right now there are far more problems on this team than Tannehill.
     
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  15. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Yeah, at this point i'll even take 75 mins and a tie.
     
  16. dWreck

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    What's sad is there are people on this board who refuse to acknowledge that there are people like this.
     
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  17. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    1. I would argue we aren't Tannehill backers, so much as we are posters who argue the unfounded criticism he gets. Criticize him for things within his control, no one will argue.

    2. I can only speak for myself here, but I don't hate you. I have yet to ever put you on ignore. Lol
     
  18. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I thought Tannehill's first half was just meh, I didn't really have an opinion one way or the other. Didn't really think the offense's lack of production was that much on him. I didn't think the play calling was very good in the first half and the execution was bad as well... by nearly all players on offense.

    Tannehill had an exceptional second half, though.
     
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  19. cbrad

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    Are you referring to me?

    pumpdogs was making a claim about what he thought a franchise QB should do with 1 minute or more left in the game.

    My claim (if that's what you're referring to) was that there aren't many posters here that would call for Tannehill to be replaced if after an entire season Tannehill put up way above average numbers (100+ rating at least on average) and we had the worst defense in the league measured by points allowed.

    Those are two different claims just so things don't get confused.
     
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  20. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Not you specifically, no. I know what you're talking about and that's not what i was referencing.
     
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  21. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    :smackhead:
     
  22. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I am happy you haven't chosen to put me on ignore. Because even though we might not always agree, I know that all either of us wants is to see this organization rise above mediocrity and get back to where it was during the playoff years of the Dolphins..

    I shouldn't have used the term, "hate" earlier. I should have just stated that I frustrate the Tannehill backers from time to time. Yet as I also stated earlier, he certainly isn't the problem with the team at this time.
     
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  23. pumpdogs

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  24. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Waiting for you to tell us exactly when Tannehill 'choked'?

    So in your eyes, Ignoring the defense and all other factors....if Tannehill throws 9 touchdowns and we needed 10 Touchdowns to win, he is an anti-clutch failure and a bad QB?
     
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  25. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    1:10 left chance to tie game and he came up small.
    How about in a big game make a big play for once with the game on the line and pick up a ****ty defence performce.The star qbs do it.Star he is not.
     
  26. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    You gunna answer any questions today? Tannehill didn't make any big plays today? lmao. I can't believe you're serious.
     
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  27. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I am talking about the last drive when its all on the line.Jesus do I need to be anymore clear!
     
  28. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Did you see Tannehill throw for 400 yards and lead to 3 touchdowns which is currently leading the NFL? or did you miss that part and only watch the last drive?

    which again leads me to this question:

    but feel free to ignore it like you usually do.
     
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  29. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    First of all I don't even no who the **** you are so don't flatter youself to think I ignore you.Second of all stats are for losers.Did he bring us back for the win when they were down to the 3rd string qb?
     
  30. dirtylandry

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    Let's not get too giddy on Tannehills's stats. That is what you call garbage time, and again, if Garropolo doesn't get hurt, I think they score 50. It does show me Miami's offense doesn't give up and there certainly is talent there. But this sense of urgency has to be felt earlier. Miami must do what will create points without being fancy, otherwise they can be 0-3. What I mean is if they are a two-minute, no-huddle, gimmick running team, then do that.
     
  31. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    they would love you on the patriots boards
     
  32. cbrad

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    Down 14 with a quarter left I wouldn't call garbage time. Belichick doesn't get cozy and slack off just because he has a good lead so I'd give the offense a lot of credit for the last few drives.

    But yeah if Garoppolo doesn't get hurt, then it's really garbage game, garbage time.
     
  33. MikeHoncho

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    Moral victories don't put a team in the playoffs.

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  34. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    we were 6-10 last year. anyone expecting the playoffs before the season started is crazy. maybe hoping instead of expecting for the playoffs where everything broke right. all i expect is to be better than last year, this year by two games. I will be upset if we dont go .500. next year i expect 10-6 and the year after 12-4. two game yearly improvements over the next three years will mean we can compete for the ring. expecting that now is just delusional
     
  35. Shane Falco

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    LOL, so clueless.
     
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  36. DolphinGreg

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    I would also like to note that moral victories involve actually gaining something, hence the term "victory." For me, a moral victory is a 10-0 team getting knocked off in week-11 and going on to win the Super Bowl only to look back and see that the week-11 loss relieved pressure freeing the team up and reminding them all that they are fallible.

    In short, moral victories are situations where losing is more than offset by a lesson learned and/or a reaffirmation of your goal.


    Miami is 0-2 and we don't know anything we didn't already know--You've got to play 60 minutes to win and the roster has weaknesses. From the player's perspective, Miami didn't come away having learned the importance of working hard and staying committed. Miami is in the same place it was 2 weeks ago but with 2 losses to it's credit.

    There's nothing "victorious" about that.


    There is no way in the world either loss can be categorized as providing more in wisdom than it cost as a loss. So if anyone is talking about moral victories right now, I would accuse them of not understanding what a moral victory actually is.


    I would categorize week 1 as a heart-breaker and week-2 as a disappointment.




    And for what it's worth, I think Tannehill threw a beautiful ball to the back pylon at the end of the game. The replay showed DP slowed on his route as he approached the goal line. I don't know why he did that but I think Tannehill put that ball 100% exactly where he expected his guy to be. I put that one on DP to be honest.

    I'm not making excuses there either. I hate that it was picked but watch a replay and pay attention to DP and you'll see exactly why he was 1 yard short of where he needed to be--because he didn't commit to getting to his spot. Perfect throw if indeed DP is supposed to get to the back pylon. If Tannehill is supposed to hit DP just inside the goal line, okay, bad throw, but I don't think that was the case. I think it was designed to be a jump-back in the back of the end zone, which signals a good throw and points to DP being out of position.
     
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  37. Fin D

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    Anyone ****ting on Thill after these last two games, doesn't know the first thing about football and their opinion should be null and void. Plain and simple.
     
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  38. Fin-O

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    Just watched the game.

    The Defense was atrocious in the first half..why the **** are we giving these shifty little Wrs so much cushion on a consistent basis? NE man, they just "get it" when it comes to exploiting a defense. That being said the defense played pretty well in the 2nd half but the hole had been dug too deep.

    Offense was the same vanilla average *** display we have seen the past 10 years as far as the first half goes. Run the ball? Hasn't happened the year.

    In the 2nd half? We saw a different QB than we have since the middle of last season. He looks to have developed a rapport with Parker that has elite duo potential. He anticipated well and threaded the needle on more than a few occasions.

    In typical Miami Dolphins fashion we have an offense that has looked good for one half of each game and average at best the other 2 half's....and a defense that has looked good for 2 half's and BAD the other 2. Will it all come together, ever!!??

    To me we fought back hard and fell short for 2 main reasons offensively. Ryan's INT late in the 1st half and Jay's fumble to begin the 3rd. You can't go to Foxboro and turn the ball over and expect anything less than a loss.

    And I LOVE what we will have in Parker if he stay's on the field, he is a beast and the type of WR we have needed in Miami for a long time. That being said? He totally blew that last play in the end zone....you couldn't ask for a better placed football! SMH..

    0-2 boys! And one step closer to another top 5 pick.

    By the way.. Mike Wallace with 2 more TD's today. Yea, he was horrible...real glad we replaced him with a skinny tranny who's claim to fame this year is kneeling or the anthem and one of the worst drops you will ever see. #thanksPhilbin
     
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  39. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I feel like they might be the same people who blamed Jeff Ireland for everything.
     
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  40. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    In all fairness, Wallace was not very good his latest year in Pittsburgh, and one of the years in Miami, and not in Minnesota. His second year in Miami I was pretty happy with him, although he was not really a deep threat, since him and Tannehill couldn't seem to get any chemistry.
     
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