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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by NCPhinFan, Sep 25, 2016.

  1. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Will I take away from Tannehills 3 touchdowns and 4 scoring drives due to Haden being out? Hardly. Haden wasn't even an issue last time we played them. The fact that you are comparing their defensive 'deficiencies' to their offensive deficiencies (i.e. starting 3rd and 4th string QBs) as if it's somehow equal tells me everything I need to know. You really want to act like that's on the same level? Ok. Lmfao. Clueless.
     
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  2. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    This isn't the yahoo chat room where you can get away with comments like "3rd and fourth string QB's" comments. Do I need to remind you the Patriots are 3-0 with 3 pretty convincing wins two of which were against playoff teams? Stop the nonsense, the defense has been an issue but the offense is right there with them.
     
  3. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Clueless huh...are you mad or something? Getting frustrated? Good. not much you can do about it so maybe move right along and log back into the yahoo chat room or watch cartoons or something.
     
  4. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Stop the nonsense? how about take your own advice guy. The offense is bad, the defense is much much worse. And it's not close.

    You are touting top 10 in points allowed like if it's some big accomplishment by this defense. That's to be EXPECTED when you're playing against 3rd and 4th string QBs. Let's start Brady in game 2 against us or let garrapolo FINISH that game out with how he was playing. How much do they score?

    Here...Let's say....
    Seattle plays even an AVERAGE game for themself at home.
    New England has their starting QB at home (Or even has their 2nd string qb for a whole game)
    CLE has either starting QB for todays game, instead of a 3rd and 4th string.



    Doesnt seem to be asking for too much.... Are we still in top 10 points allowed? If that doesn't scream "More than likely 32nd in points allowed" after what we have seen on the field with our eyes, then there is nothing else to tell you other than you are believing what you want to believe (and are hilariously incorrect).

    WE were LUCKY to have the circumstances we did. That was a UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS. Yet we stilled got absolutely embarrassed. Sure the offense hasn't shown up until the 2nd half of games, but the defense hasn't shown up yet this season. You really are hanging your hat on that SEA game, wow. rofl.
     
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  5. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Figures, ignore the substance of the post which **** on your faulty logic. Too easy.
     
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  6. Shane Falco

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    Fin-O is going back to his old ways.

    That's a shame.
     
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  7. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    You havent the first clue of substance...for example you keep trying to speak as if NE's offense is some struggling unit that we made look good. You are embarrassing yourself by continuing to pretend the Pats are missing a beat. They are averaging 27PPG and 2 of those were against the Cardinals and Texans defenses...with you know..those 3rd and 4th string Qb's.

    The defense is no where near a top 10 unit, perfect example of figures that lie (as I told u earlier) but this offense has had 3 good Qtrs of 12. So slow down.
     
  8. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Sucks when I have to be honest with some of you. I know it isn't what you want to hear, but its life. Today he had time vs a bad defense and didn't look good to me. That wasn't how I felt the previous 2 games. But since those 2 games I was telling you what you wanted to hear, I was right.

    Not a good way to go about life.
     
  9. adamprez2003

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    tanehill is so much better than RG III that I dont even know where to begin arguing it. if you think his health is the only reason no one touched him other then the cleveland money ball gm then how is sam bradford still playing? I doubt RGIII would even be considered in the top 32 of QBs in the league by GMs. There's probably at least ten backups they would take before him.

    i know,the numbers tell you different lol. you and cleveland. damn good thing they didnt draft wentz when they had a chance. obviously the numbers said it was a bad idea
     
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  10. dWreck

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    Show me one post where I said the PATs are missing a beat? You are literally changing what I am saying to you.

    You are saying the defense is going to be top 10 in points allowed as if that's somehow a good thing considering what we've seen this year and what we have been gifted (and not taken advantage of) ON THE WHOLE.

    All I said was - WHAT HAPPENS TO US IF :

    Seattle plays even an AVERAGE game for themself at home.
    New England has their starting QB at home (Or even has their 2nd string qb for a whole game)
    CLE has either starting QB for todays game, instead of a 3rd and 4th string.

    Answer that? instead of ignoring it????

    I am not taking away from How well NE is playing. I'm saying we would have gotten F***ED Way worse than we did. That's cool NE won 27-0 against Houston with their 3rd string.... Does that mean they wouldn't have dropped 62 points on us with Brady???? Your 'top 10' points allowed would be a pipedream if we werent gift wrapped a good amount of circumstances.

    Again. The offense shows up in the 2nd half of games but The offense has put us in a position to win all 3 games.

    The defense has yet to show up this year.
     
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  11. heylookatme

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    Our offense was not great today vs a Browns team that was missing its best cornerback, that is true.

    However, our defense is what's going to sink that team based on what I have seen the last two weeks, unless immediate solutions can be found to numerous glaring problems. We were very fortunate that the Browns were missing McCown, Coleman, their starting center, and I think one other guy today.
     
  12. dWreck

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    It never ends. Not exactly related, but this stuff reminds me of when we lost 39-36 in Denver.

    We were playing IN Denver, IN a primetime game that we had NO business winning. Tannehill balled out of control, but a chunk of this site was harping on him and the offense non-stop for the loss when the defense couldn't stop a toddler. This was a game people didnt think we'd score 14 points in.
     
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  13. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    100% agree. It's plainly obvious it's not a 50/50 split between the offense being bad and the defense being bad.
     
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  14. Fin-O

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    You keep speaking hypothetically as if its a fact? "Seattle even plays an average game for them at home"? Solid argument.....

    The offense scored 10 points at Seattle and had a chance to win because the def only allowed 12. How did the offense put us in position to beat the Pats?? You are clearly hating on one unit of the team while apologizing for the other in the same paragraph?? Not a good look.

    Come on over to the reasonable aspect of this and happily admit that both our offense and defense are pretty mediocre.
     
  15. cbrad

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    Wow.. we have totally different views (memories?) of RG3's rookie year. Assume health isn't an issue and RG3 doesn't get injured. I seriously am dumbfounded to hear anyone who watched/remembers his rookie year think Tannehill has ever come close to that kind of performance. Yeah, it's reflected in the numbers but it was on the playing field too.

    I watched a lot of his games (as well as those of Luck) because those two were so hyped. I always thought it would be Luck that would dominate that first year and I was wrong. Sorry.. we must have watched different QB's because RG3's rookie year for me was amazing (until the injury of course).
     
  16. BigNastyDB13

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    Youre really hanging your hat on that 2nd half vs the patriots already down 28 pts. Wow. The offense has been terrible for 75% of the year. Played good for 2 qtrs vs NE and 1 qtr vs Cle. Thill also all but handed cle 13+ pts but thanks to a missed fg and fumble it only resulted in 7 pts. The offense is just as likely to turn the ball over as they are to score a TD. Calling another poster clueless with Fin-O knows more about football in his sleep than you is comical. Cute but comical
     
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  17. Shane Falco

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    I didn't see the game, so I am staying out of it. The DVR failed me ugh.

    But we will always have our Buckeyes!
     
  18. heylookatme

    heylookatme Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you that defense is my biggest concern with this team going forward. We are complaining about our offensive performance in a game in which we scored 24 points in regulation and then won on an overtime touchdown. While our offense might not have been great today, we have picked a high bar to hold them against.

    But with that said, I feel like it is somewhat pointless to harp on the bad defense for the simple fact that I see no solutions forthcoming for the defense. I do not think they are suddenly going to get better, and what we see is what we are going to get. The offense, however, can and hopefully will continue to evolve and grow and play better.

    So if people would like to save their criticism for the offensive side of the ball, even though I think that is the better part of the team, that is fine. We know our defense is in danger of going full on dumpster fire and we were hoping that they would at least fix the offense this season.

    Personally, I think that if we can somehow beat Cincinnati on Thursday, even if it is ugly, a lot of the furor will die down and we can reassess.
     
  19. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    As usual (to no ones surprise), you ignore a point in the post and/or refuse to answer a question directly asked at you.

    ASKING YOU "what if" is not 'speaking hypothetically as if its a fact'. That was a question for you, genius.

    I've said multiple times both are bad. Please read my post history for the day. they ARE both bad The defense is just much worse. Very easy to see. Saying it's an even split 50/50 is being incredibly dishonest.

    So I guess in your mind, Seattle played a GOOD GAME. Definitely Looked like themselves and played how they do on a weekly basis, right? And our all-world defense just played so incredibly well we held them to 12, according to you. This is what you saw, since you literally include "top 10 in points allowed" and "held seattle to 12" in literally almost every post you have typed. Seattle Looked like a Miami dolphins clone and played as anemic and horrid as i've ever seen them play.

    LMFAO @ "How did the offense put us in position to beat the pats?" We were down 24-0 INCASE YOU FORGOT before a 24-7 run by OUR OFFENSE, which came down to the last minute of the game, giving us a chance to TIE......... in a game we had no business winning.... BECAUSE..?... their 2nd string QB was absolutely running a f***ing train on our garbage defense. The way he was playing it was shaping up to be the greatest football day of his life, statistically. LUCKILY FOR US he didn't finish the game.

    You are hanging all of your logic on the Seattle game and it's hilarious and pathetic.
     
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  20. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    against seattle and new england the gripe was tannehill couldnt lead a game winning drive by some posters. today he did and those same posters now say he should have done more. lol. it never ends
     
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  21. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    You don't know the first thing about me, or anyone elses football knowledge, Tough guy. I'd wager to say you know as much about football as you do real estate, (which, judging by your other posts isn't a lot.)

    We are down 24-0 IN THE FIRST PLACE............because the defense is beyond putrid........... and the offense had to score points to come back......... and they did....... So.... the offense.... is bad? am I understanding that correctly?

    Hows Tannehill doing on the season by the way? The answer is 90 QBR on the season and in the upper tier of QBs statistically each week, in case you were wondering.
     
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  22. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    If you take away games the defense has choked in the final few minutes, I'd wager tannehills 'game winning drives' doubles. Maybe more.
     
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  23. Fin-O

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    Too easy for me.

    You just claimed numbers lied when I told you the defense is creeping top 10 in PPG vs. Then try and hang your hat on......wait for it.........wait for it......STATS when it comes to judging the QB. Go night night kid.
     
  24. resnor

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    Yeah, that was his point. You can't complain about Tannehill, while ignoring stats, but praise the defense based on stats.
     
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  25. dWreck

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    Ignored the question for the 3rd time. Must have been too much for you to handle, Sorry about that. I won't ask you anymore. I know it would have really put a damper on your top 10 points allowed elite defense BS.

    Yeah let's talk about too easy. :lol: I Won't bother destroying you via text any more tonight. Let me know if you decide to answer the hypothetical that ****s on your beliefs about what you think you see with this team. I'll be here.
     
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  26. Fin-O

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    No, that was actually my point.

    Im not complaining about Tannehill at all. He didn't play well imo today...this is not an isolated opinion.
     
  27. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    But... He did. He played well enough to win for us. And did.

    The defense on the other hand.......
     
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  28. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    I dont recall you asking a logical question. And of course I called the defense "elite"

    You know you are defeating someone when they start making things up to help a weak point.
     
  29. Fin-O

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    You have already stated your opinion on his play. Im guessing its about the 46th consecutive good game in a row you think he has had judging by the one sided opinion you have shown. But yes, he certainly played well enough for us to win, no one is arguing that.
     
  30. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    A hypothetical asking what would happen if we played our first 3 games under "normal circumstances" is illogical? Hahaha. I guess considering the outcome by our defense in that situation, I can see why you don't want to answer.
     
  31. Fin-O

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    Actually yes. It is the NFL...you can't call something a normal circumstance.

    Keep watching and one day you will understand what Im saying when I say that.
     
  32. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    LOL. People whining about a win. I didn't have any expectations for our team. Stealing a win in the home opener is fine by me.
     
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  33. Rocky Raccoon

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    When Tannehill plays well and we lose:

    "He still can't win! He's not good enough! He can't put the team on his back!"

    When Tannehill plays OK and we win:

    "Who cares! Look at the stats! He turned the ball over and cost us points!"

    The same people who complain that he doesn't win enough are the same people who are first in line to scream about how his mistakes when we do win. He'll never win in their eyes unless he is perfectly dominant.

    Anyway, Ryan was OK today. That first interception was just boneheaded, but he did make some big time throws in big moments. There are things he needs to continue to improve upon. I wasn't a big fan of the game plan either.

    A win is a win though, and wins sure do feel good. Fins up, *****es!
     
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  34. dWreck

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    You're hilariously dense. Since it's so hard to comprehend for you:

    Defense is worse than the Offense. Fact.

    Defense has been given gift-wrapped circumstances, such as two straight weeks of 3rd/4th string QBs and still got torched, Fact.

    Our offense is middle-of-the-pack in the NFL, in terms of yards and lower middle tier of Points, which is still light years ahead of the defense, Fact.

    Tannehill has a 90QBR, 6th best QB of this week and in the upper tier of the season thus far, Fact.

    Offense > Defense and it's not 50/50 or close. Fact.
     
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  35. Fin-O

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    You are as delusional in regards to calling things "fact" as some others who throw that around with opinionated examples.

    Go look up the meaning of the word "fact" then come back here and try to spin it somehow. Im enjoying watching this unfold.
     
  36. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    Only the Dolphins can make a win that painful to watch...
     
  37. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    One fact is, this game will be in RT17's game winning drives lists.
     
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  38. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Yep, hes racking em up like hotcakes.
     
  39. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    hahahaha.
     
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  40. heylookatme

    heylookatme Well-Known Member

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    I think you guys are getting a little too upset over a win. :(
     
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