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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DolphinGreg, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The sample sizes are obviously too small for this stuff to really mean anything but this forum needs a shot of positive energy dammit!



    Tannehill projects to 4,750 yards with a 7.9ypa average.

    He also projects to be sacked the fewest times in his career (32) while throwing the most times (603).

    Landry projects to 128 catches for 1,675yds and 5 TDs for a 13.1ypc average

    Parker projects to 83 catches for 1,178yds and 8 TDs for a 14.2ypc average

    Stills projects to 43 catches for 700yds and 5 TDs for a 16.3ypc average
     
  2. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    very deceiving stats. if we can't run the ball or play defense, those stats could balloon, however, good only for wins in fantasy
     
  3. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Looks like this coaching staff wasn't paying attention to what DIDN'T work with the previous.
     
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  4. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Yep. Gotta find a running game somewhere.
     
  5. MikeHoncho

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    RB X 102 carries for 300 yards rushing, 1 TD.
     
  6. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    i dont mind them throwing the ball, but those bubble screen and or behind the line of scrimmage things have got to go
     
  7. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    From last season...

    Tannehill 2015 "on pace for" after first 3 games:
    4,674yds | 61% comp | 6.9ypa | 27 TD | 16 INT | 37 sacks

    What he actually produced:
    4,208yds | 62% comp | 7.18ypa | 24 TD | 12 INT | 45 sacks
    .....................................................................

    Jarvis Landry 2015 "on pace for" after 3 games:
    128 catches | 1,219yds | 9.5ypc | 0 TD

    What he actually produced:
    110 catches | 1,157yds | 10.5ypc | 4 TD
     
  8. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    They do. However, it should be noted that through three games (compared to last season), RTs YPA has gone up from 6.94 to 7.90 and his YPC has gone from 11.3 to 12.2. His comp percentage (3 game sample also) went up from 61.4 to 64.6, on 14 fewer passes than in those games the year prior.

    So fewer passes, for more yards, a higher completion percentage, and more yards per throw and per completion. Other than the ugly interceptions that need cleaned up, RT has started this year better in every single way compared to 2015. Its better.
     
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  9. cbrad

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    Passer rating is also better, 88.8 to 85.5.
     
  10. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So if you cant run the ball do you:
    A) continue to run the ball like pounding your head into a brick wall and hope you eventually break through
    B) pass the ball effectively as we have while trying to mix in the occasional run.
    C) punt
    D) forfeit






    The correct answer is B. The problem is that our best back is old and often hurt and the 2nd best back is still learning. Williams Ajayi and Pead...meh they are what they are.
     
  11. NolePhin15

    NolePhin15 Well-Known Member

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    Should Tannehill be blamed for this though?
     
  12. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    he can't be blamed for not having at least an average run offense and defense. right now Miami is 30th in defense and 24th rushing. it's the same issues as last year when you look at it statistically.last year they were 23rd overall in rushing and 25th in defense. that formula brought us 6 wins last year. Tannehill could in fact break records passing, but with this defense and rush attack, it will be a lot of garbage time and with fewer opportunities than the opposing team.
     
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  13. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Jimmy Johnson chose A, and it was a terrible choice. 3.6 YPC or worse each of his four seasons. It was wrong then, and it would be wrong today.
     
  14. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Different era, wasn't as wrong then as some would like to believe. Was it would I would do? No.
     
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  15. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    The rules clearly favor the passing game now. Back then it was more of a run first league. Only we couldn't run the ball. Much like how we cant run the ball now.

    On another note, I thought Drake looked better than I thought he would. Wish Gase would have kept him rolling yesterday.
     
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  16. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    It's "B" by default ........ not by choice. They slacked big time in shoring up the RB spot.
     
  17. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Im not disputing that they didnt do enough at RB. Retaining Miller would have been the correct choice in hindsight. They tried to catch lightning in a bottle with Foster but they caught his usual injury bug mixed in with good play when hes actually been on the field.
     
  18. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I just want to take a moment to say that I don't mind losing Lamar Miller and I'm actually kind of getting sick of hearing about how bad off we are now that he's gone. Not picking on your statement Boik but it needs to be said that the loss of Miller isn't that big a deal. A lot of people are talking about him like he's going to go on to Houston and have some career that proves he's an incredible talent. Let's put that myth to bed.

    Look, I get that we could use a RB but don't tell me some big myth about a guy I watched play for 4 seasons. I know who Lamar Miller is and he's not an elite player. He is not AP, or Jamaal Charles or LeSean McCoy. He's at the edge of being a potential Pro-Bowl player, maybe for a year or two. In a league with so many great backs, that isn't actually that special.

    I will be very surprised if Miller does anything to garner more attention from fans around the league than what he was able to while being a Dolphin. He's got good vision and decent speed. He's not an elite play-maker by any stretch however.



    He's being fed the rock at a rate that's going to kill him. Yes, he projects to amass 1,700 all-purpose yards which is great but his 450 total touches shows the team is riding him hard. He's 1 rushing attempt off the league leader (Blount) and he's running at 3.6 ypc which is ranked 28th in the league.

    To put that in perspective, the rushing total Lamar Miller will get in 400 carries was accomplished last year by Peterson in 327 carries...and that 327 carries was a league-high in attempts! In short, you can't rush for 1,400 yards on a 3.6 average. The guys who do that are up above 4. AP was 4.5 while Doug Martin was 4.9. Occassionally a RB will get 400 carries like DeMarco Murray did in 2014 but he got 1,850 yards. Again a 4.7 average allowed that.

    So yeah, you can bang those yards out of Miller the same way Wannstedt banged 'em out of Ricky Williams if you wanna wear the guy down but at least Ricky was a special player that could carry an offense. Miller, to me, does not seem like that level of player. In 2002 Ricky carried the rock nearly 400 times, put up 2,200 all-purpose yards and led the league in rushing. The following year he carried it the same number of times and his average dropped to around 3.5 where Miller's is now and what happened? The dude chose to walk away largely because his body was being run into the ground.

    I think there's homer bias in any Miami fan that considers the loss of Lamar Miller a real long-term hindrance. Nice asset? Sure. Amazing player? C'mon.
     
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  19. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    lol, talk about jumping to conclusions. No one said any of that.

    Miller is far and away better than any back on the team and RB is a legit weakness right now. That is the only point.
     
  20. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    He Concluded nothing. I've noticed many have started holding Miller in higher regard since he's walked. Many have alluded to him being an elite player that has only been underutilized, and would surely churn out multiple pro-bowl seasons with an extended workload. "Still scratching the surface"

    We can argue that we should have payed *Near top dollar *for Miller.... But him being simply better than Jay Ajayi was hardly reason enough to. Sure, we all know he's a good player any team would like to have. Truth is Miami's running game looks the same as when he was our guy... And like Elway said.."Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make"
     
  21. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    why can't we just leave a back in shotgun with Tannehill and at least attempt to run from this formation?
     
  22. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Well in terms of the running back situation, my hope is that Kenyon Drake can step in and hold it down for the rest of the year. Let Ajayi take the short yardage stuff, but I think Drake needs 12-15 carries a game. Use him the way we used Miller. Everyone complained (including Miller himself) that he was underused here in Miami, but with Drake (being that he is a smaller type of back) we can use him in the Miller role. I really like what i've seen from Drake thus far, but we will certainly need someone to step in for him. Hopefully Ajayi can remove head from *** and begin to do that.
     

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