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Onto Cincinnati

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Pandarilla, Sep 25, 2016.

  1. RachelD

    RachelD Active Member

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    I got a good little chuckle out of this, immediately thought of some greasy slob and his overalls and trucker hat lol
     
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  2. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Well, Coyle is once again their D coordinator. So that might be why they're skidding.

    They're not banged up at all yet...

    I actually like not having Cameron in the lineup.

    Just add Carroo and go 4 wide, lol.
     
  3. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    OMG that is so NOT true.

    I've been to every Dolphins Bengals game in Cincy the last 10 years and they all have shoes on. There is a lot of beer, but that is at all stadiums.
     
  4. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Burfect is back, not sure he plays Thursday though
     
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  5. Unlucky 13

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    He'd be good for a few 15 yard penalties if he's back.
     
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  6. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Hahah. Not sure if serious


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  7. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    serious, have not missed a game where the Dolphins have played the Bengals at home.
     
  8. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    I was kidding about the shoes...


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  9. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I suspect that the receivers (particularly Parker) are still learning the new system. You'll often see QBs hold the ball longer when they're waiting on a receiver to do something and then he doesn't. You'll also see apparently inaccurate passes which really aren't.
     
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  10. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    This game doesn't line up great for us. Road teams rarely win these Thursday games. IIRC the streak was something like 28 straight wins for the home teams at one point. And in this case Cincy is coming off a couple of losses and has coordinators who should know many of our players fairly well.
     
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  11. cbrad

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    I don't know where you're getting your information, but this link seems to show all Thursday night games on NFL network since 2006:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Network_Thursday_Night_Football_results_(2006–present)

    The record is 50 wins for the visiting team and 59 for the home team, so a 54.13% win percentage for the home team, which is worse than overall (57%).

    Now, granted that's not all Thursday night games because there were some on NBC primetime and on ESPN, but it's the majority of Thursday night games. I find it hard to believe there's ever been a 28 game win streak for the home team on Thursday night (longest streak is 5 based on the link above). Maybe you can provide evidence of this?
     
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  12. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    We seem to somehow always play the Bengals well no matter the level of our team.
     
  13. cbrad

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    Yeah.. and the last Thursday night match between the two teams was fantastic if you remember. That was the OT win where Wake got the sack. Anyway, we have a great record over the Bengals, even recently:
    http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/teamvsteam?opp=17

    16-5 overall and won last 3, two of which were at Cinci.

    Dolphins are also 3-3 on Thursday night, while Cinci is 2-4:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thursday_Night_Football
     
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  14. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Jelani was the worst rated pff 4-3 olb last week. Get Hewitt and Butler on the field, stat!

    Dion Sims was the #1 rated TE last week, also. He really does block well with his length.
     
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  15. Fin-O

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    Our only hope in this game is to pressure Dalton excessively, problem is we won't even get to that point unless we keep them in passing downs which doesn't seem likely either.


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  16. Pandarilla

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    Hewitt and Butler likely to start...been waiting for this switch.

    This bodes extremely well for us, IMO.
     
  17. Pandarilla

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    They're oline is struggling bad.Eifert looks to be out. If anything, I think they scheme around the edges.
     
  18. mlb1399

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    Sounds like Albert may not be able to play. I think we need to move on felm him this offseason if it makes sense from a cap hit standpoint. We could use his money to sign a solid guard and move Tunsil to LT.
     
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    I will never forget that walk-off safety as long as I live.... what an amazing end to that game
     
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  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I didn't really believe it when it happened. That was crazy.

    A crazy old homeless person yelled at me while I was walking to my bus stop. A night I will never remember.
     
  21. rafael

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    I think this is what I was thinking of:

    Since 2005, NFL home teams playing on Thursday night have won 68.2% Against the Spread (ATS) for a profit of +14.95 units.

    In fact, home teams have covered the spread in 12 of the last 14 Thursday Night Football games.

    After identifying this trend with our Bet Labs software, we filtered it down even further and looked at just favorites playing at home on Thursday night.

    This increased the ATS win percentage to 71.9%.


    https://www.sportsinsights.com/blog/want-a-thursday-night-nfl-betting-system-that-wins-68-2-ats/

    This is an old article from 2012, but I think the trend has continued,
     
  22. Bpk

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    2015 Road team W vs Road team Losses was 8-6 on Thursday nights. In 2014 it was 7-7 Road team Wins vs Road team Losses

    This season it is 1-1 so far.

    An article in 2012 said road teams were "20-35" from 2006 to 2012 on Thursdays. ( http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s-home-teams-visitors-nfl-short-week/1644223/)

    My guess is that initially coaches did a piss poor job of adjusting their approach to the short week, and the coaches around the league have learned since then. Maybe the trend is changing now that more coaches know the right way to approach the short week. More knowledge = better results. Probably more emphasis on rest, physical recovery optimization, more mental and virtual reps and so on and so forth compared to the pace of a 'normal' week.
     
  23. Bpk

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    Shouldn't Vance Joseph know most of their players well? I think that evens out any coaching insider-knowledge advantage.
     
  24. Unlucky 13

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    With Thursday night, there's certainly some truth to the notion that playing at home gives the team an advantage, regardless of anything else. But the league also has a tendency to create these games with the home team being the stronger club.

    Week 2: Jets @ Bills
    Week 3: Texans @ Patriots
    Week 4: Miami @ Cincinnati
    Week 5: Arizona @ SF
    Week 6: Denver @ San Diego
    Week 7: Chicago @ Green Bay
    Week 8: Jacksonville @ Tennessee
    Week 9: Atlanta @ Tampa Bay
    Week 10: Cleveland @ Baltimore
    Week 11: New Orleans @ Carolina
    Week 12: Minnesota @ Detroit
    Week 13: Dallas @ Minnesota
    Week 14: Oakland @ Kansas City
    Week 15: LA @ Seattle
    Week 16: Giants @ Philly

    If you look at those, the occurance of a team seen as a contender visiting one seen as an also ran is pretty rare. The teams seen as being better get to host the game at least 80% of the time, and most of the rest are pretty even. My point is basically that the league helps things along for the home team more than might be random.
     
  25. rafael

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    Hopefully although there's four recent former coaches on Cincy's staff now.

    I just don't feel confident going into this game. My gut says that they're going to go back to basics after a couple of losses and that will mean a re-focus on the run game. I think it's likely they'll be able to run all over us. They'll control the game. On offense our OL is banged up. We've been improved in pass pro, but that might go away with our subs. We've been terrible at run blocking and I don't know if that will improve this game. I just see this as a bad spot for us.

    But it's the NFL, "any given Sunday" (or Thursday in this case), I just think this is one of those where we'll need an outlier performance from somebody. Or maybe a few TOs in our favor or a great STs day.
     
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  26. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I think it will be a fun game to watch. Cincinnati and San Diego are two teams we usually do well against.

    That said, they have got to be pissed after they're last two games. This is really the best time for our offense to come alive. If not, I agree that we'll need turnovers and special teams to win.
     
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