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Tannehill to remain starter. So let's just get over it.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Colmax, Oct 9, 2016.

  1. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Keep telling yourself that
     
  2. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    lol, the undermining of wilsons talent continues, and the continued excuses for Ryan tannehill...prez, come on man..
     
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  3. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Russell Wilson the Tyrod Taylor of the NFC. :)
     
  4. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Comments like that make my mind numb.
     
  5. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    The only thing they have in common is the color of their skin and the fact they are both starting QB's in the NFL. Otherwise Wilson is a future hall of famer and Taylor will end up being just another decent QB in the NFL for a few years.

    The worst mistake the Dolphins made is the 2012 draft besides drafting Tannehill was not selecting Kuechly in the first round and Wilson in the second round.

    The defense and the offense would be much better today if those two had been selected by the Dolphins.
     
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  6. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Need to just hire Bernie Bierman as the next head coach.


    He wrote the book on winning football.












































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  7. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    The people who want Tannehill benched are the same people who wanted Jeff Ireland to blame. We haven't had a QB this good since Dan Marino(chad pennington doesnt count because he couldnt take a hit). The offensive line just keeps getting worse and Tannehill has no time to throw. His deep ball appears to have improved this year which was what everyone used to whine about. Now they are whining about is pocket pressence/lack of running when no time is given. It looks to be the result of coaching and a horrid offensive line because he used be be better at it though it was never a strong suit of his.

    The draft this year(which makes Jeff Irelands last draft look like a good one) really hurt this team by not drafting the players the team needed outside of Tunsil and Howard.

    Russell Wilson would not be the player he is today with Pete Carrroll. He might even be worse than Tannehill if he was drafted by the Dolphins.

    Wasting our first round draft pick on an unproven QB next year will be disastrous. I have yet to see a Matt Ryan or Andrew Luck type prospect in next years draft.
     
  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Apparently you hear these comments 24 hours per day
     
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  9. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    The only way Wilson will be in the hall is if he buys an admission ticket
     
  10. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    The most disheartening thing about this post is that the Dolphins could have drafted Fletcher Cox or Kuechly, Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson instead of Tannehill, Jonathan Martin and Olivier Vernon. Oh well.
     
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  11. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    You have absolutely no idea how he would do if he came up with another coach/franchise. I dunno why some of you even bother with these make believe scenarios.
     
  12. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    That literally made no sense ..... more par for the course for you though. :up:
     
  13. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    I'm not for benching Tannehill. He's the best chance the Dolphins have to win. That being said, Wilson was a better college QB than Tannehill and continues to be. He might be the only QB drafted in the past 5 year that would have a shot at winning with this supporting cast.
     
  14. djphinfan

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    i hope your trolling..

    no way to prove it but I could take the same team and win more games with Taylor.
     
  15. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    yup, Pete Carroll, the master at teaching the art of playmaking at the QB position..lol
     
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  16. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    You obviously have some sort of bias against Wilson, but the fact is that he is the best QB to come out of that draft so far and that includes Luck.

    The last I checked inductees into the HOF don't need a ticket to get in. So Wilson will be able to walk in the door without paying five years after he retires from the game.
     
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  17. Redwine4all

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    With this franchise, nothing will surprise me. And in that tenth year, people will be saying, "well, give him a chance. He's gone through 7 head coaches"...LOL.
     
  18. dolphin25

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    he is the best chance? but, we are NOT winning, so what is the point?

    I don't bench him now, but no way would I play him the last 4 games of the season.
     
  19. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    he is using the bait and switch technique, trying to get off topic of tannehill being bad, by bringing up Wilson.
     
  20. jdang307

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    How is the whole audible thing working anyway.

    Carr on that beautiful TD pass to Crabtree on 4th and 2 ... audibled.
     
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  21. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    The only time I heard gase comment on it he said tannehill was doing a great job with it. That was two weeks ago or so
     
  22. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Yeah man - not being able to audible the last two years held him back remember! LOL
     
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  23. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Tannehill isn't playing bad. The oline is. You can't judge a qb when the oline is that bad. We'll see how he plays this week when Albert is back. With Albert ba k tanny should be able to breathe a little back there. Then we can judge his game
     
  24. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    You may want to talk to gase lol
     
  25. jdang307

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    Actually heard he got tripped up once. Two weeks ago. I may be mistaken but along the lines of pre snap shuffling, he changed something, they shuffled some more and it threw him off
     
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  26. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    You can't disregard the past 4.5 years. We've been judging his game since he got here and it is what it is. At best..a mid level QB.. The problem is his best is always two or three games a year. He is a great athlete and a tough SOB, but he's no QB. He doesn't have the feel for the position. Great athletes like him can be really good at WR, RB, or even LB, but not QB.
     
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  27. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I disregard the first two years. That's just learning time. Year three is when he came in to his own and if we would've had an even halfway decent team around him we would've been in the playoffs. The garbage that has surrounded him for four and a half years is why he is still question mark. I liked the first three weeks and so did gase. Then the oline got decimated. Now that Brandon Albert is back and maybe tunisil in a week or two we can start evaluating him again
     
  28. dolphin25

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    What do you expect the OL to do exactly? What would make you happy in your being able to evaluate Tannehill?
     
  29. brandon27

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    There's nothing that can be done on the OL IMO. That ship has sailed. All you can try and do is fix the mess you have with what's left. Try and find better depth, and coach these guys up to get rid of the mental errors. For us to be able to evaluate Tannehill. We are screwed as fans. All we have is video and our own assumptions of what we thought he should do.

    The coaches however will have that ability if they can fix it enough to the point where he has time to plant and throw. Then they can look at the playcall, look at the outcome, question the QB on his read and decision making on the play, and decide for themselves as coaches whether he has a clue or not and is capable.
     
  30. Jt0323

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    Tony Romo would be dead on the first snap if he was the Miami Dolphins QB. Tannehill is tough as nails. Not his fault almost every place hes getting hit, how has he not gotten hurt should be the bigger question.
     
  31. Finrunner

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    Getting back to Gase, GISH was right. How many times before the season started did Adam Gase state that he would have Ryan Tannehill's back? It was several. And I don't think Gase is being disingenuous when he's backing him now and saying that the O-line is not giving him time. The case and point on that notion is the firing -- because that's what it is -- of Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner. IMO, Gase is still holding to his vow that he'll have Tannehill's back.

    If once the going got tough, Gase immediately bowed to pressure and benched his QB for fan dissatisfaction, he'd lose credibility with Tannehill for sure -- there'd be no redeeming that -- also with the team, and then, too, with future QBs where he makes public promises on their behalf. Gase has kind of painted himself in a corner on this one.

    But, saying that, I also really think Gase really thinks that it's been impossible the last couple of games to really get any kind of a professional evaluation on his quarterback. How could he? Yes, Tannehill's missed some plays, but he's also playing skittish knowing he doesn't have more than two seconds to release the ball. Essentially, Gase knows that there have been players that are not NFL-caliber protecting his quarterback.

    And I'd bet Gase would take some of the blame himself for not seeing that in training camp. Of course, those guys might.have liked alright against Dolphins D-linemen, because most of those guys are below replacement value, too.

    It's a conundrum, but at this point, Gase is absolutely doing the right thing for the whole team and for his quarterback by supporting Ryan Tannehill. Maybe ten games in or so, if he has made the determination he has to move on from RT after this season, he may change his mind without the negative repercussions that decision would have now.
     
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  32. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I just want Brandon Albert back. Albert, pouncey and James is workable. If tunisil comes back that's a bonus. I don't need a great or even good line. Give me average to slightly below average so long as it isn't the French defense against a blitzkrieg
     
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  33. Finatik

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    Even the French put up a better fight then the guys that got cut did.
     
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  34. cuchulainn

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    Gase seems to have expressed his feelings on the subject rather bluntly...

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  35. djphinfan

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    to me this is a coach that is embarrassed about how his team is executing, it would be to easy for him to just blame the qb, this is his way iof saying his players aren't getting it done…but that doesn't mean he thinks that ryan is doing enough to counter.
     
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  36. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Blocking someone would be a great start. Can't open holes for the RB or give the QB time to throw. Either would be a nice upgrade. I'm going to let Gase evaluate Tannehill. He's there every day and I watch 60 minutes a week.
     
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  37. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    It actually sounds like a coach who is saying that people who are laying the blame on the QB are lazy evaluators. He didn't say anything bad about Tannehill. In fact, he is saying that the situation around Tannehill is dictating what Tannehill is able to do, the other players are so bad.
     
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  38. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    This is an indictment to the front offices. Although I must say, this might be the best draft class I remember in a while. If Albert and Tunsil get back the OL should be much better. The depth on the OL was/is atrocious and that's on those who sign players.
     
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    Not sure how you got that from what he said. IMO its just the opposite... now if Tannehill was standing there at the 4 sec mark taking those hits, then sure. But thats not at all what he said or even implied.
     
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  40. Silverphin

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    This draft is turning out pretty good. I like Tunsil, Drake flashed, and Grant dang near had me doing the Holy Ghost.
     
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