No.. I've tried to explain probabilities to you and I've simply come to the conclusion there's something about that you have difficulty understanding. So I'm not going to try again specifically in a debate with you. Anyway, there's nothing inconsistent in my approach whether you believe that or not.
That's because when Tanny threw for 4k, Tanny supporters didn't mention his TD/inT ratio. Because it was nothing to write home about. So when all he really had, was 4k, we talked about, 4k. Nobody was touting his 27/12 which is decent but not all that spectacular. Neither was 4k (they're both around 11-12 in the league in 2014) but you gotta try and put lipstick on a pig I guess! Seriously, this is getting silly. It's not only TD/INT for Rodgers. How about his 98 passer rating? What's Tanny's? HIs 87 is good for ~21 in the league. It's still early, but that's what it is.
The guy has had 3 games, one good game, a subpar game, then a fantastic one, and he's coming off a 4-0 TD game. 62.5%, 8.5 ypa game. We are still waiting for Tanny to have a game where he throws TDs and no INTs. The most important metric, PASSER RATING, is 10 points higher. So yeah, he's having a better season. I'm not even the one who brought Aaron. It's silly to compare a HOF and Tanny based on 3/4 games in one season. They're 2-1 because the offense is producing, and Rodgers has ran for two scores. But nobody on earth is arguing they are having similar seasons. Well, one person on earth is.
Tannehill's QB rating would be 96 if not for two interceptions caused by defenders hitting him as he was throwing. Just sayin'. edit: Let's not forget Kenny Stills dropping a sure TD against Seattle. Add another 70 yards and a TD and Tannehill is likely around 98/99. Not to mention it cost us a win.
If you're going to play that game you have to play both sides, so what about the dropped INTs, and what about the missed passes that could've been. Every coin has 2 sides, just saying.
Well at least today I am expecting a big day from tannehill.(At least I hope as I am forced to play him in 2 of my 3 fantasy leagues)I am thinking at least 2 or 3 tds today and around 275-325 yds today. The sad part is nowhere I have found has him 1 of the top qbs in fantasy today.They have qbs like boy Hoyer and Wentz, Prescott over him.Nobody and I mean nobody thinks this guy outside of the few on this website thinks he is a good qb.
Im starting him in fantasy today....kind of a last chance with me. If he can't produce today? I will beat the Dolphins by 6 months in selecting that release button.
Haha.I hear ya.I have to play him because my one league I have wilson and the other is palmer who has been worse than tannehll so far.If tannehill doesn't produce today at least we have the steelers next week for garbage points. The next two weeks after that forget it.The jets and the bills own tannehill.
Yep, I have Wilson on bye also. Have the Ryan and Juice combo so they can dink and dunk down the field for 4 quarters and ill be happy.
I am forced to play stills because I have fuller and hopkins on same team playing vikings.No way I can play both so going with hopkins and stills is replacing fuller.
I get where you're going with this and you're not wrong. I'm simply illustrating that the QB rating between Rodgers and Tannehill isn't all that dissimilar. And if a few plays that were out of Tannehill's control go the other way, JDang's argument falls apart. Tannehill hasn't been nearly as bad as some people make him out to be. He hasn't played great but he hasn't been utter garbage either. And frankly, there's no one to replace him with short term. So strap in and enjoy the ride.
You just described tannehill in a nutshell.He hasn't played great but he's not garbage.This equates to his entire career.Just a borderline averge qb.2017 is the year to search for better than average.
And you have went through Rodgers 3 games and analyzed each throw and be sure he also didn't suffer from any drops from their wide receivers I'm assuming. Thought so.
Rodgers has been off this season. I watched two of his games and his head just didnt seem into it. As weird as it sounds he seemed disinterested. He would make a great throw every two or three series and follow it up with three clunkers. Not sure whats going on with the guy. maybe the bye week will straighten him out
It's the surprising lack of receiving options plus a hobbled Jordy Nelson. Davante hasn't panned out. Randall Cobb exposed. They'll sort it out, takes time to get back from injury
Watching this game I'm really thinking tannehill to bench. We need a spark and this guy can't ignite a volcano
The whole team with the exception of a few players needs to be blown up. I'd use the rest of the season to see who should remain and who should go. Some that should remain based on performance alone are Reshad, Suh and Landry, while others like Tunsil and Parker have potential and are on rookie contracts. But who else? Certainly not Tannehill, so I'd try out whoever else there the rest of the season. Anyway, the single biggest problem with this team is the run defense, and I don't want to ever hear about how this "wide-9" defense isn't hurting our run defense when you have crappy LB's. Even an amateur could see that! I'm slowly coming around to criticizing Gase too for the lack of adjustments. Some guys shouldn't be out there based on performance, and he's obviously not doing much for our offense. Anyway, hard to change much when it's rotten from the top. Buck ultimately stops with Ross.
I have no doubt every QB in the league would have a higher QB rating if their receivers hasn't dropped a ball or their OL had given them more time on throws where they threw interceptions. All these are simply part of the game of football. To me, these are just more excuses for Tannehill. After 69 games as a starting QB in the NFL, the time for excuses is over as far as I am concerned.
14 full game seasons in this career: 8 seasons of 18-28 TD's and 11-14 INT's. 6 seasons with more than 28 TD's. 6 seasons with less than 4,000 yards passing 8 seasons with more than 4,000 yards passing Can you guess who this "pig" is?
Really? Are you trolling or serious? jdang said a 4,000 yrd 27 TD and 12 INT season is "decent". I showed that the majority of Brady's career, in his words, is only decent.
I just wanted to commend Cbrad after reading this thread because I thought he did an excellent job. Regardless of who's on the other side, he's always willing to fetch the stats himself and present the findings objectively. That's an ideal poster.
He will get the stats but i'm sorry he is not objective. the only stat heavy person posting in the mains is pauly.
I'm not sure you could get 1 single person who understands basic statistics to agree with that statement. Cbrad is about as detached as they come. The effort and patience he shows is striking. The statistical work he does is on par with the best the Mains has and if everyone was as objective as Cbrad you wouldn't get endless bickering. And I have zero doubt that he puts being factually correct above any of his own opinions about the team (which he does a great job of tempering). I know that to the audience reading, his tone with people garners a lot of respect. Pauly is great but if you're condemning Cbrad, I'm not sure you've been visiting the Mains. He's a top poster. I just thought it was worthwhile to give him a pat on the back for once again, staying patient. You literally have people here who evidently don't know what a standard deviation is. C'mon...
I take nothing away with cbrads statistical prowess. He's very good. However, I do think that often his stats are done in a way to try to prove a certain point of view.
I hope we draft one. Deshaun Watson, Chad Kelly, Davis Webb, and Seth Russell all have potential. Watson - Cam Newton Kelly - Rodgers Webb - Favre Russell - Roethlisberger The comparison is who they remind me of in the games I have watched them in. None of them are that good yet, but they might become that good. Webb has a quick release. He could go in the third round or higher if a team thinks they can fix his issues.
Yeah, no. First of all, what we're calling stats on here is actually two separate things. 1. Collected data. 2. Interpretation of that collected data. Neither of those are inherently objective in regards to football. I know, I know, you guys freak out and scream #1 is absolutely objective.....but its not. I mean an incompletion is an incompletion and there's no subjectivity to calling a pass incomplete or not....except that's also not true. Catches or non catches are contested ALL THE TIME and it often depends on your prevailing perceptions to decide which side of the fence that falls on. Hell, go back and read about the Stills drop from Week 1 on here. Everyone who already thinks Thill is the problem, blamed the incomplete on him. If the data collected can't even be considered objective, then the interpretations have even less of a chance at objectivity. Cbrad, like many other stat guys who are fans of a team, do not come at a problem objectively. He is human and has an opinion. Virtually all of his data interpretations (about Thill directly or indirectly) on this site, have served to further his already held notions. I've even new definitions of words invented. Now, his posts are thought provoking and an impressive amount of intelligence and work goes into them and because of that, he's an asset to the site. None of that makes him objective, however. And I think its wrong to read his posts and come away thinking he's an objective football scientist or something.
I disagree. I definitely know where he stands on RT, but I think he presents his case in a very objective way.
If the leadership of this team is forward looking they will start trying to develop Doughty with giving him actual starts. Need to see if the flashes of talent he shows will translate into games. Tannehill is yet another dead end for this franchise at QB. Sooner they realize it and start moving on the better.
Its pseudo objective. Its really no different then what shouright used to do. For him to be objective he wouldn't have to invent ways to prove his already held theories correct. Which he does. A lot actually. Pauly, OTOH, will do the research and if it leads to an alternate take then he originally gave, he'll change his take. THAT is objectivity.
Before you extend Tanny another 5 years let's get two good performances in a row, shall we? lol. Encouraging today, but hardly conclusive and the final word on the man's career.
I'm not ready to extend him. However, the more of these games we have (where he gets protection and plays lights out) the more I want to see of him.