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Brian Hartline FTW!

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Nov 14, 2016.

Should the Dolphins bring back Hartline for a minimum contract?

  1. Awww yeah! Sideline catches ftw baby!

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  2. No! He's worth far more! Bring him back and pay him the big bucks!

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  3. What the? Has the San Diego win gone to your head? Not a chance. SMH.

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  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    [video=twitter;798177800603729920]https://www.twitter.com/brianhartline/status/798177800603729920[/video]

    Class act!

    Shall we have a quick poll?
    Should the Dolphins bring back Brian Hartline for the veteran minimum?
     
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  2. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    Can we find out want Davone Bess and Chris Chambers think about Adam Gase now?
     
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  3. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    No, he sucks. Just because he said something positive about the dolphins does not mean he should take a roster spot. He is probably busy running his grocery store anyways.
     
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  4. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I voted for sideline catches just because it made me giggle.
     
  5. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Easily.....without hyperbole, one of the worst WRs to EVER play a starting role over multiple years.

    **** WR. **** teammate.

    That beaver-faced douche canoe can piss right the hell off.
     
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  6. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    We have had active game day starters on the roster who were one **** of a lot worse. Tiptoeing the sidelines on 3rd and too much for a catch of the ball a yard and a half on the wrong side of the sideline is worth something - besides just blatant disparagement for the halibut!
     
  7. Ronnie Bass

    Ronnie Bass Luxury Box Luxury Box

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    I think we can put Fin D down as a "No".
     
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  8. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Was he losing his balance as he tweeted that?
     
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  9. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Do you also think Moore should start?
     
  10. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    ???
     
  11. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Brian Hartline wasn't a terrible starter. Greg Camarillo, Tedd Ginn are two recent starters worse than Hartline.
     
  12. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    I just HAD to vote the 2nd option.
     
  13. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    No, they're every bit the receivers he is. They all suck.

    What was it exactly that you are holding on to with beaverface? His inability to find an end zone? His never ending desire to fall down? Was it his overwhelming douchiness in interviews? Was it the fact that my fat *** could get more YAC then him?
     
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  14. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    He did lead the league through at least 4 games back in 2012.
     
  15. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Which is a testament to Thill, not Hartline.
     
  16. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Right. Because no one had to actually catch the passes or anything. Come on D. You're really going to be this much of a hater?
    No one is saying he's a great WR. Just that he's not the worst.
     
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  17. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Good route running and great hands. If you threw in his direction he caught it.
     
  18. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Cornbread. This team needs white receivers, who trip over their own shoelaces and bring back nightmares of past coaches.I'll leave the past where it is and see if we can find another token white guy.
     
  19. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    If that's your bar for what you look for in a receiver, then that is like saying the best restaurants are the ones that serve food for a price.
     
  20. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    they're all in new england. we'll have to trade.......i do miss the days however when he had that one white guy who played like ten positions under don shula. HB/ WR/ TE/ QB/ PR/ KR whatever you need coach
     
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  21. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    Where is my Jim Jensen?
     
  22. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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  23. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Should have kept Griff Whalen...
     
  24. SICK

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    Should have kept Griff Whalen....
     
  25. Finster

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    Lets be fair, he is working in a clean pocket in that vid, which wouldn't show anything.

    However the truth is he has poor pocket awareness, it of course made perfect sense when we drafted him, only playing a year and a half of college QB and all, but it hasn't got much better, the big scramble he had vs the Chargers was actually a product of his poor pocket awareness.

    He missed a big pass play early in the game that the broadcasters highlighted, and he misses plays all the time, I watch the all 22s, I see them.

    The most egregious "miss" in this win streak was vs Buffalo imo, on the first scoring drive, it's 3rd &7, we were around 17yd line, needed the 10yd line for a 1st.

    Landry and Stills double slot on the left, with a bracket of 4 DBs in front of them, on the other side, Parker was 1 on 1, S was deep middle at the 2.

    Pre read we have a 6'3" WR 1 on 1 with no immediate S help, if Parker can win off the line, automatic 1st down, while on the other side there are 2 stacked DBs for each WR.

    So clearly the first read here is Parker, he is 1 on 1, the DB is on a total island.

    Here's what flabergasting, RT never looks once during the play, under no pressure, not once does he even glance over there, and thats a shame, because the DB fell flat on his face, and Parker was streaking all alone towards the EZ, pocket awareness doesn't get worse than that in the NFL.

    With all this pre read info, under no pressure at all, he just locks onto a double covered Stills, and because of DB traffic he has to throw it late and the DB breaks it up, good thing there was no tip drill with all those DBs around.

    There were 5 receivers on the play, 3 WRs, TE, and RB, three were covered very well, Parker and Gray were not covered at all, he never sees either of them.

    This is atrocious pocket awareness from pre read till the ball hits the turf, here he is presented an opportunity that QBs salivate over, and he never even glances at the 1 on 1 match up, then fails to recognize either of the 2 uncovered, not just open but uncovered receivers.

    If there is one problem of RT's that is for sure at this point it is pocket awareness.
     
  26. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    That's not pocket awareness, that's field vision.

    Who was the first and second read on the play?
     
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  27. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    I think it's fairly obvious, OC's lose sleep trying to contrive ways of getting favorable 1 on 1 match ups, when you get one, that's your first read, plain and simple, one of the primary things you are looking for pre read, do you really think there is an OC out there that would want you to ignore one? lol

    I guess I did lump poor field vision in there, that's because with RT I lump it all into "QB" awareness, which I think is overall poor with RT, actually that's what is his bugaboo imo, he can do anything a QB needs to do, but he doesn't have a QB's mind, which is a visually high speed processing mind.
     
  28. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Well, I don't know. I know that people with much greater football knowledge than me have pointed out on plays where he "missed" someone, it was really a matter of his first read being open, so that's where you go with the ball.

    As to the processing piece, it's weird. I almost feel like you're right, when he's in the pocket...but get him out scrambling, and he definitely finds the open guy, and seems to process differently.
     
  29. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    The adage "if you're thinking, you're not playing" comes to mind, I think when he's scrambling, with some open room in front of him, I think that's when he stops "trying" to process "reads", iow, he stops thinking and is just playing on instinct, and I'm convinced that's why he's just flat out better in those situations.

    I think that we as fans don't truly appreciate what type of rare minds it actually takes to be QB at the NFL level, especially a good QB, being able to scan a field and know within seconds what you want to do, you have to know everybody's job, and where they will all be, and that is everybody, lol, and you have to know their jobs cold.

    From scanning the field, you know what "options" your receivers will take, while keeping in ming that the D is probably not showing something, which you have to pick up on your drop back, which could change potential receiver "options", so lets stick a pin in that.

    Now, with all this knowledge you've obtained, all offseason, during the week in the film room, and then pre read, SNAP- allhastobeprocessedinthenextcouplesecondsanddecisionsneedtobemadeandexecuted, hehe, with giants that are all just like Ivan Draga "I must break you".

    I think RT, just like most of the QB's ever truth be told, have problems with this part-allhastobeprocessedinthenextcouplesecondsanddecisionsneedtobemadeandexecuted- and smarts has nothing to do with it, RT is smarter than most QBs, Einstein would have made a lousy QB, he was a methodical thinker, and Brett Farve will never be confused with a scholar, or Dan for that matter.

    I think RT has everything you want in a QB but is lacking in that one critical thinking element, which I think is very rare.
     
  30. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean by "cornbread"?
     
  31. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Brian Hartline WTF!
     

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