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wow. our qb has arived

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by caliphinfan, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Or it could have been the fact that the Jets played like they didn't even show up for the game... jeez. Not taking anything away from Luck, because I think he's good. Tad overrated, but good. But, you're just being a bit ridiculous here.
     
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  2. jdang307

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    No they were not. They were important yes. But saying they were just as big. No. Games closer to the end are bigger than the beginning. More information

    If we lost to Pitts we'd be 1-5 but most were feeling the playoffs at 1-4 was slim anyway and nobody would have said "damn we just lost one of the biggest games in years. "

    This past game we were in the 6th seed. This game was mountains bigger.
     
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  3. dolphin25

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    It could be that. Or maybe Luck made it look that way by throwing for 4 TD's. If he had thrown zero, the Jets suddenly look much better.
     
  4. Limbo

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    I think what's a little lost in this thread too is how good some of the League's QBs really are. Tannehill's had a nice year, and yet as of the end of week 13 he is...

    19th in passer rating
    11th in YPA
    17th in TDs

    Having watched Tannehill's games, that's kind of crazy to me. Grain of salt of course...only 12 games worth of data, and obviously these numbers will mean more at the end of the season. Just wanted to provide some context across the league. Some of these guys are playing seriously good football.
     
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  5. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Really? Did you watch the game? They were beyond pathetic. There was no effort. The Cleveland Brows would have given a better effort than that. Hell, a CFL team would have put up a better fight.
     
  6. roy_miami

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    Gonna need to do one for Cousins soon. Statistically, Cousins has been quietly having a phenomenal season.
     
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  7. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Good luck trying to get the "you know who's" to give Cousins credit.
     
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  8. adamprez2003

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    Well at least we know oakland's Carr sucks. I mean he played poorly in week 14 and lost both the overall number one seed and first place in the AFC west. What an unbelievable choke job in such a huge game. The guy never plays well in big games. Maybe the raiders will cut him
     
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  9. RealDolphinsFan2

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    Lol, I learned a long time ago that folks who don't really understand football just obsesse on the qb, says a lot about the members on this site.
     
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  10. vt_dolfan

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    If we lost the Pitt game...we would never have been in the 6th seed. Most fans would have melted into the annual Dolphin fan death spiral...and all the cries that Tanny sucks would have reached deafening decibels.

    You would have followed up the butt kicking we took from TN with a loss. Any sense of anything positive would have been wiped from the season....just as most of you already did. I mean..no offense but you and a host of others pretty much wrote the team off after 1 and 4. Any talk of Tannehill needing time to learn offense with Gase was labeled an excuse...and most were talking about who we would draft with the first pick of the draft. You guys completely gave up on the team...gave up on Tannehill. Then all the sudden team started to win games...not 1 or 2 or 3 or 4...but 6 in a row whom all the same Tanny haters gave about a zero percent chance of happening.
     
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  11. vt_dolfan

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    And now...we lose a game...and the same Tanny haters have come out of the woodwork...after a 6 game winning streak.
     
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  12. Fin D

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    Heres' the best part.....

    His defense played well. They won the TO battle. His running game was working. And he drops a 49 qb rating while only being sacked once.

    Clearly this guy doesn't have "it".
     
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  13. bigballa2102

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    Winning 6 games in a row to sub .500 ball clubs really doesn't help your case for 6 in a row, we lose to the jets most likely if drake doesn't return that kickoff with about 6 min to go. When RT had only 149 passing yards ajayi almost had just as many yards rushing (111) lol. we played a great part in the schedule but if you cannot beat playoff caliber teams then what's the point winning 6 or even 10 in a row?
    Give up is not in my vocabulary but what's the point of going 9-7 and missing the playoffs? its the same as going 1-16 or 0-16 the team still watches the playoffs from home except you get a worse draft pick? if you cannot beat playoff caliber teams, which I think the ravens are and a little over hyped even though they smashed us. This weeks game is just as huge as last week, Arizona is way better than their record and I'm interested to see RT bounce back!! if we can get AZ I think we will win 3 of 4 (hopefully) 2014 doesn't happen again and lose to sub par teams down the stretch.
     
  14. vt_dolfan

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    If your gonna pitch winning 6 in a row to sub .500 teams...really? How about how many of those teams were on multiple game winning streaks prior to us playing them. How many of those teams had top ten defenses.
     
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  15. vt_dolfan

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    Look at most of the schedules in the NFL...look at a six game stretch for any of them..how many are against Sub 500 teams?
     
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  16. bigballa2102

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    the question how many of those teams still have top defenses?

    The question is, is how many teams after week 10 or now were still top 10 defenses judging a defense by the first 8 weeks with a bye week so 7 of 16 games, you must like to crown the superbowl champion in week 11 then? Whats even more funny is there's only one team we beat still in the top 10 that's the rams who have been beat by 8 other teams. The 3 others we played in the top 10 pats, seattle and Baltimore all still top 10 all losses for us, like I said az is a huge test and crucial game for us, they are a top 10 defense I actually think they are #2, if you cant beat the teams that are high ranked towards the end of the season there no reason to get excited about playoffs.

    if you want to be technical, here is the win streaks you were so proud of.

    Pittsburgh - 2 game win streak: chiefs and jets
    buffalo - 4 games: cards, pats(w out brady), 9ers, rams
    jets - 2 games: ravens, browns
    san diego - 1 game: Tennessee
    rams - 1 game jets
    9ers - 0 games


    so your comment of how many where on win streaks 3 of 6 and technically I don't even consider 2 games a win streak even though by definitions it is. specially to teams with under .500 record. the only team who was on a win streak to me was buffalo so 1 out of 6 teams on a win streak really doesn't solidify your argument!!!
     
  17. bigballa2102

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    I don't have enough time to look at every schedule, I seriously doubt there are many teams with as easy of schedule for 6 weeks as the phins had. that was just luck that never happens. either way its still 6 wins, im just saying if you cant beat playoff teams then your 6 wins don't mean anything. that's like saying "we beat the practice squad every day this week" and then game comes and you get smashed, non if it matter until it matters - ya know? that's why Baltimore and az are crucial games for us to show if it was luck of scheduling or we really are worthy of a 6 game win streak.
     
  18. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Blinks.....whaaaa????
     
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  19. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    I feel like Im talking football on the Jerry Springer show.
     
  20. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    as quoted by Samuel L Jackson - "English M****R F****R do you speak it"

    LOL
     
  21. bigballa2102

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    you are not the father!!!!!
     
  22. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Yo Quiero Taco Bell...
     
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  23. jdang307

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    You guys bringing up Carr crack me up. Raiders are in line for a playoff game.

    Despite his dislocated finger in 15 degree weather, he played bad if they had lost a playoff spot you guys might have an argument. But otherwise it's just desperation and you can smell it a mile away.

    Just another in a long line of QBs people drag down to try and elevate Tanny.
     
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  24. jdang307

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    Who is "you guys?" Show me a post I gave up on Tanny. I've been pretty consistent about not making a conclusion about Tanny until the end of the year.

    From what i recall it was a pro Tanny poster who started a thread or something. Not me.

    Again those games were not as big. Expectations were low. Another loss would be just another loss.

    We had the 6th spot with 5 games to go. If you don't think this game is bigger I don't know what to tell you. Games get bigger the later you go because you have more information and there is less time to make ground up. It's pretty simple I don't even know why we're debating this.
    Let's say we make the playoffs by winning the very last game, and we own a tiebreaker. Meaning any win that year was essential.

    Would you argue game 1 was as important as game 16? No.
     
  25. brandon27

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    Exactly. I think the only point that anyone should bring up when mentioning Carr right now, is simply this... Every QB has a bad game once in a while. Even those who we use to fairly, or unfairly criticize our own. This is sports, nothing, and nobody is ever perfect. That's really the start and the end of it. So, Derek Carr had a bad game last night... big deal. Just like Ryan had a somewhat bad one last week against Baltimore after 6 showing improvement and good play. What Derek Carr has done this year should be impressive to everyone.
     
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  26. brandon27

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    LOL
    Also, consider the Jets gave ZERO effort in the game, although some apparently will try and tell you that Luck is apparently so good, the Jets just pissed all over themselves on the field and that's why they didn't give any effort. They knew it was over before it started, because... Andrew Luck. Or, something like that?
     
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  27. Fin D

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    We aren't bringing up Carr cause we think he sucks, we're just showing you guys how flat out ignorant your criteria is for judging Thill.

    I thought that was clear. I should have known better. My bad.
     
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  28. Rock Sexton

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    26-44! Wow, some really stellar competition we beat. Who cares about the Rams defense? It's clearly not good enough to escape a 4-8 record.

    BTW, are people forgetting Carr's thumb injury? If it was mentioned already I apologize.
     
  29. jdang307

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    Yes he had a bad game. To his credit, he wouldn't blame his finger. But he was floating passes all night and they showed a graphic where he was only gripping with the 3 fingers and thumb. In 15 degree wind chill weather you can imagine what that does to your grip.

    The defense wasn't ruffling him into hurried throws. He was lobbing them and it's obvious why.

    Yes most QBs don't establish themselves until later but you want a team to wait 8-10 years to find out? Carr's looked like he's passed Tanny. Cousins. Marriota.

    If not this year when can we be convinced? Next year? Year after?
     
  30. Fin-O

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    So many daddy issues in these threads...
     
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  32. bbqpitlover

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    I think thats the point, Tannehill has only proven to better than RG3 from all other QB's drafted with him, he is a middle of the road guy, he can lead the team for 6 or 7 wins but never get's over the hump. Its been five years now with zero winning season's. Good QB's takes the players around them and make those players better, you can tell when the players believe in their QB and rally around him. Look at Brady he hasnt always had a good offensive line or a decent defense, but he always leads his team to victories because he has the field vision and smarts to beat defenses.
     
  33. jdang307

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    To be fair we're only two wins away from a winning season. It's very possible we reach it this year.

    On a year to year basis, wins and losses is a terrible stat. But overtime, the QBs tend to be on winning teams.
     
  34. KeyFin

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    It's not worth arguing when he obviously didn't see the game. The Jets quit by the 3rd overall play and still had 3 3/4 quarters to figure out something to do. I'm guessing it was Pokemon Go.
     
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  35. brandon27

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    It's likely a combination of not seeing things, and flat out trolling by quite a few folks. Oh well, what are you going to do I guess.
     
  36. caliphinfan

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    you cant compare him with brady. brady has been coached by a coach that some call the best ever. what have we had? with all the bad coaching and bad o line (thomas) we should be happy we dont have a broken down shell shocked qb. say what you want about tanny, that guy is a warrior. and inspite the hate he has gotten, he has improved every year.
     
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  37. djphinfan

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    That's a fair evaluation.
     
  38. number21

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    Biggest game of the year for us Tanny had three TDs. Lets hope he's healthy for the Jets.
     
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    Looks like he's out for the season by initial reports.

    Anyway, yeah he (and the rest of the team) played real well today, and in a game with playoff implications. It's really too bad we didn't get to see Tannehill in more such games. Hard to tell whether this was the beginning of a new trend or just an isolated event.

    I guess if this is the last game this season for Tannehill, my view is that you keep him but hopefully renegotiate his contract and draft a QB in the mid rounds next year (2-4). The guy played some of his best football this season but had too many duds yet isn't easy to replace so you keep him, but you need to keep searching for someone that can lead you to wins when nothing else is going well.
     
  40. number21

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    Sigh, still doubting. I hope people stop the argument about Tannehill. There's some people who will NEVER change their opinion of him.
     
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