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Is there a better QB out there than Moore?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phins_Fan_87, Dec 11, 2016.

  1. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    One month is all we need. Even if he parties, so what. You are thinking of him as a long term option. We need him for about a month.
     
  2. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    One month is more than long enough for something to happen. It's just not worth it.
     
  3. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    Interesting, but Manziel's "dynamic" personality could very well sabotage any morale our guys currently have going for them. Toxicity is something to consider here, and I seriously doubt the front office is even entertaining this idea.

    I think the most realistic option is Jimmy Clausen, who worked with Adam Gase in Chicago. Clausen isn't a bad backup, and it would make sense to bring in third quarterback in case we have another injury (knock on wood).
     
  4. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    What are you insinuating may happen?

    Positive drug test - Let's say he smokes up after 10 days in Miami, tests positive in 14, league announces after about a week, we have finished the regular season

    Altercation - Immediately cut. How long do you think it would take before that happened? Two, maybe three weeks... If so, we have made it through the regular season.

    I'd like to think that we could hire him a baby sitter Jerry Jones style and keep him on his best behavior for a month.
     
  5. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    He is the backup QB... I don't exactly think that he could create a divide in the locker room. Honestly, there is a decent chance that he may very well be humbled. If he is a locker room problem, cut him and call Jimmy Clausen. #NoHarmNoFoul
     
  6. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    At this point, Johnny is a league minimum guy. Essentially, he is a no risk, all reward guy.
     
  7. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Oh, God.
     
  8. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty excited too!
     
  9. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Adam Gase recently cut a player after said player was arrested for marijuana possession, possession of a controlled substance, and possession of an unregistered firearm. You think he'd allow someone like Manziel on the team?
     
  10. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    The man doesn't take being a football player seriously. Back-up position or not, his signing would be a waste of a roster spot.
     
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  11. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I know, but how many people on the planet have the athleticism/talent that he has?

    In all seriousness, can you explain to me why he is a waste of a roster spot?
     
  12. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Dude, if the fact that he has shown, on multiple occasions, that he doesn't even take the sport seriously doesn't say "waste of a roster spot", I don't know what else to tell you.

    Dion Jordan has shown a better work ethic than Johnny Manziel. Let that marinate.
     
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  13. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    First of all, Dion Jordan has the rare distinction of getting suspended while suspended. So let that marinate.

    I completely agree that he doesn't take the sport seriously. But we are asking him to be the backup to the backup.

    Does he have the athleticism to run the wildcat? Yes
    Is he capable of making a single read? Yes
    Are there things that he could do that rely more on talent than on effort? Yes
    Is there a chance that he has changed? Probably not
    Is there a chance that he could focus on football and keep his nose clean for a month? Maybe

    Finally, do you think that he was able to win a Heisman trophy while abusing drugs/alcohol and partying? Absolutely.

    Let that marinate. He was able to become the first freshman to ever win the Heisman on talent alone. He was the greatest college football player on the planet, and he didn't even try. I think it would be foolish to simply discard the importance of talent.
     
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  14. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Here he would be Pennington 2.0. Peyton had a noodle arm his last year in Denver, remember how sad it looked seeing him trying to throw a deep ball last year.
     
  15. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    While talent is important, talent can only get you so far. There have been plenty of times when a talented player has come into the league, only to wash out due to not putting in the work necessary (see: JaMarcus Russell). And the fact that QB-starved teams like the Cleveland Browns and the New York Jets don't even want to touch him. Drew Rosenhaus dropped him as a client after two months (to put this into perspective, Drew Rosenhaus has never discharged a player as a client). Until he can prove that he can keep his nose clean and get his life together, no NFL team will sign him.

    And that's going to be the last thing I say on this matter. Good night.
     
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  16. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    it is when they've already proven it
     
  17. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Johnny Manziel is a terrible idea. Im no expert by any means, but my impression of him is that he is a spoiled clown that doesnt take his opportunities seriously enough.
     
  18. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    we have moore and doughty. thats it. maybe we steal someone from a practice squad
     
  19. Dolphan24

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    lol @ Manziel did you see how bad he looked at the Heisman presentation he looked like a scrawny crack addict.
     
  20. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Because he is not a good NFL qb who doesn't know the offense or players, is not in playing shape and is train wreck on a behavior level that would contradict the culture Gase has built.
     
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  21. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    Moore knows the offense and is a capable quarterback who could have started for a number of teams in the last couple of years. He isn't Tannehill but that doesn't mean we can't squeak out victories against the jets and bills.
     
  22. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Then why did you even bring up the question in the first place???? :rolleyes:
     
  23. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Calling those of us who have questioned Tannehill in the past , "haters" is absurd.
    While I have been one of those who has stated I don't believe Tannehill is the QB who can ultimately lead this team to the SB. I still feel he was the best QB on the roster at this time.

    I have seen improvement in his game under Gase and I certainly didn't want to see him go down with a serious knee injury. I think it will be harder for the Dolphins to win the next three games with Moore at QB than Tannehill because Tannehill is the better QB and that is why Gase picked him to be the starter.

    Yet the last time Moore was forced into being the starter on this team, he ended up being the teams MVP for the entire season. Of course that was back in 2011 and he hasn't had a lot of playing time since then. Hopefully the team will rally around him and the Dolphins can continue to make a run at the playoffs with Moore as their starting QB.

    As for Tannehill, I hope his injury is not too serious and he will be available to play by the beginning of next season. Unfortunately if it is the type of injury which will require a 10-12 month recovery time, the Dolphins will now be forced to bring in a veteran QB to start next season if Moore doesn't have success over the next three weeks.

    I also think because of the injury, the Dolphins might want to draft a young QB in the early rounds of the draft in an effort to start developing him for the future.
     
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  24. dolphin25

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    It was tied, so I'll go with led them to a 4th quarter win.
     
  25. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Signing Clausen, who knows the system, wouldnt be a bad option at all as Moore's backup.
     
  26. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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  27. Dolphins Dad

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    New guy here. Sick about Tannehill. I'm afraid Moore is not athletic enough to play behind our line. He will be a sitting duck.

    Gonna be a long 3 games I'm afraid.

    Peace!
     
  28. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Not quite. Moore was a former baseball guy, he can move a bit. He moved some yesterday actually to get in position to throw the ball.
     
  29. Dolphins Dad

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    Isn't he like 34?
     
  30. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    He's 32.
     
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  31. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    That would be horrible. Clausen is worse than bad.
     
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  32. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    sooooo?
     
  33. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wait, did you really just said that Johnny Manzeil is no risk? The guy is the textbook definition of risk.

    If he actually had his life on track, and was claiming to be serious about football again, then I could maybe see that... but he's so far from that position it's not even worth considering the idea of considering it. I think the only time he considers a NFL comeback is when his money runs out and he wants to take another run at it, but for him, it'll likely be just for the paycheck at that point, not for playing football. He's done IMO.
     
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  34. mor911

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    It'd be nice if there was a way to get Romo in there for the rest of the season.
     
  35. jdang307

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    And his legs are fresh AF. LOL
     
  36. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    As for Johnny football I wouldn't mind seeing him getting his life in order and coming back and playing some football I see some talent there.

    Just not on my team!
     
  37. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Bringing in any QB that doesn't know the O, is a terrible idea.

    Who knows, MM may surprise some people.
     
  38. mor911

    mor911 pooping

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    no no no no no no no no no no
     

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