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Dolphins give up home game to play in London

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    The Jaguars, Dolphins, Browns and Rams will give up home games next season so that the NFL can play four games in London for the first time.

    The league had previously confirmed that it would play four games in London in 2017, up from three this year, and today the league announced what the four games will be:

    Week 3 or 4: Ravens at Jaguars, Wembley Stadium
    Week 3 or 4: Saints at Dolphins, Wembley Stadium
    Week 7 or 8: Vikings at Browns, Twickenham Stadium
    Week 7 or 8: Cardinals at Rams, Twickenham Stadium

    The Jaguars have a longtime commitment to playing one “home” game a year in London, and the Rams agreed to play one “home” game a year in London while their new stadium in Los Angeles is being built. The Dolphins agreed to play a “home” game in London when the league awarded the 2020 Super Bowl to Miami. The Browns may simply have agreed to go to London because they know they’re in a rebuilding mode and will struggle to fill their stadium anyway.
     
  2. SICK

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    This was announced like two months ago...we had to do it for the super bowl...no big deal.

    The thing I hate the most is such an early BYE week. Possibly week 4 or 5? Bull****.
     
  3. Galant

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    Not a fan of this, and I'm British. Maybe it's not that big of a deal in terms of travel, these days, but the loss of a home game is significant.

    If the league really wants to promote American Football in foreign countries I think they should put their money behind home grown leagues or an international league, like the CFL but in the UK and elsewhere, or just in Europe as a whole. It could serve to widen football interests as a D League of sorts, and seek to build the talent level up.
     
  4. brandon27

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    Hate giving up a home game for it, especially with the fact that we've played so well at home this year, and everyone seems to be loving that stadium, and the atmosphere looks, and sounds so much better in there. That's the cost to host a SB though, and that's one of the big reasons those renovations got done. It is what it is. Hopefully we're in that SB game at home too!
     
  5. Simon

    Simon The Other English Simon Club Member

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    The only decent 2017 game is the Saints v Fins one.

    I'm looking forward to seeing Miami again in my hometown but honestly, I think they've been here enough in recent years.

    Carolina, GB, Tennessee, Philly and Seattle have yet to play even one game over here.
     
  6. Simon

    Simon The Other English Simon Club Member

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    They've tried that and it hasn't worked unfortunately. Home grown leagues have been around in the UK since the early 80s, and haven't developed particularly well. They are probably better organised than when I was playing back then, but they're nothing more than hobby leagues. And the World League in the 90s showed that in the UK there's no appetite for anything other than the NFL.
     
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  7. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    they talked about this on WQAM when it was announced 2 months ago. They made it sound a lot more hellish than we think. Turf is different, your training staff is limited, the locker room isn't made for 53+ people, the time change is very difficult, the food is gross, you don't know the country so you can't even leave your hotel without getting lost, and the fans don't know the difference between the star player and some chump that just got off the practice squad, and fans don't know how to cheer for american football.
     
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  8. firedan

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    It's never a good thing when they group the Phins with the Browns,Jags and Rams.
     
  9. SICK

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    You guys will all be loving it when we're playing the first ever home stadium super bowl game in 2020 :shifty:
     
  10. Finster

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    I think this is what they're doing, but going the traditional route this time, they tried it already and it wasn't successful, but I think they realize the ground roots had not been set, setting up leagues in countries where they don't facilitate football, where there are no football roots.

    I think they're trying to "set roots" in the UK, start increasing the number of children that want to play American football, then you start getting talent from the UK, then the UK WANTS their own team.

    Just a theory of mine, but I think that's the goal.
     
  11. SocaCasualuk

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    I'd say the majority of that is garbage. Grass is grass isn't it? Wembley is one of the best, if not the best, stadium in the world. I'd wager that the food available within 10 miles squared is as eclectic, cosmopolitan and high end as anything that could be found in the US.
    The time difference I will grant you will be difficult but how much more than crossing coasts and playing?
    Yes it's a growing game so some fans are not as knowledgable or experienced as you would find in the US, but every game I go to there are more and more genuinely knowledgable fans and this is often remarked to me by US fans visiting.
     
  12. Jt0323

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    I am just glad its an NFC opponent. NFL Screwed up when they had us give up a DIVISIONAL home game
     
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  13. TheHighExhaulted

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    The Saints traditionally suck everywhere but New Orleans so I'm not that upset.

    I don't think they will be very good next year.
     
  14. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    English food is not eclectic, cosmopolitan or high end.
     
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  15. muskrat21

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    no grass is not grass. That is the stupidest sh*t i've read since tannehill can't throw deep arguments. That's like saying marijunana is all the same. Do you see them playing football on the same grass on augusta putting greens? Hell NO! the way the turf is laid the grass chosen the soil the grass is laid in is all meant for 150lb-200lb (at max) soccer players, not 350+lb linemen accelerating and and be pushed around on it. I know Chrowder said it and that guy is dumber than a box of rocks, but when it comes to football things like this he is 100% on point. That was the year they made JT a giant robot, PEOPLE STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHO JT was during the game and after it. Another thing is people with families. They either stay home, or you uproot them from their life for a week trying to make your life abroad as "normal" as possible, or you don't have them and your mental game suffers because you don't have your go to wife/children fiance/children gf/children, bang piece to talk with and understand you.
     
  16. dirtylandry

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    Thursday night games and London games have to go. Just a waste for everyone


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  17. Simon

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    1. You don't know what grass they use at Wembley, so stop talking cr@p.
    2. You also clearly don't know anything about the UK or its fans.
    3. As for the travel, why is Miami to London really any different to Miami to Seattle? Did you worry about the players being "uprooted" in Week 1? No, of course you didn't.
     
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  18. MikeHoncho

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    Why?


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  19. Claymore95

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    You do know that you can get more than just English food in London, one of the biggest and most cosmopolitan cities in the world...?
     
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  20. muskrat21

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    1. ROFL do you watch the games played in london and look at how sh*t the turf is. also this is from the mouth of SOMEONE THAT PLAYED ON IT.
    2. I mean just watching on tv and paying attention to crowd noise confirms this. do you even watch football?
    3. 3hrs backwards is the same as 5 hr forwards? LUL also, why did we stay in cali when we played sd and la? if the time difference and travel don't mean anything? why do west coast teams playing on east coast have a losing record every year?
     
  21. Fame

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    I seem to recall that the Dolphins are one of the most popular NFL teams in the UK stemming back to one of the early (maybe first?) games played over there. I remember there being absolutely enormous monuments of Jason Taylor erected outside the stadium.

    Perhaps that initial exposure really paid off. In any case, probably worth the logistical nightmare.
     
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  22. Hellion

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    Its already a pain in the *** to travel over there for these games to begin with, but what pissed me off is that they leverage teams to do it to get a Superbowl..its extortion. But even living with that BS, where the real issue i have is and the owners, players and fans should have is giving up a home game in order to play a divisional opponent. THAT's my biggest issue with it. You would think someone (if they aren't already) would be pointing out the importance of losing THAT home game. One is bad enough but like a few years ago to the Jets was unbearable to me.
     
  23. Simon

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    1. With the exception of the Fins v Giants game back in 2007 and one of the games back in 2014, there have been no problems with the turf. They host rugby games every year at Wembley too, you know, - again without any problems.
    2. "just watching on tv and paying attention to crowd noise" - Jeez. Are you for real? Try actually going to one of the Wembley games.
    3. So you're basically agreeing with me.
     
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  24. Simon

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    Yep, one of the most popular teams in the UK, dating back to the 80s when Football started getting shown over here on TV, and the Fins were featured quite regularly (back when we were decent).

    That being said, I do think the Fins have done their bit and there's no reason why another home game should be sacrificed.
     
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  25. Galant

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    Probably - but they could also try to work with what already exists.

    http://www.britishamericanfootball.org/

    Teams:

    Lincolnshire Bombers www.lincolnshire-bombers.org
    Merseyside Nighthawks www.merseysidenighthawks.co.uk
    Ouse Valley Eagles www.ovfootball.com neale.mcmaster@oveagles.com
    Bournemouth Bobcats www.bobcats.org.uk info@bobcats.org.uk
    Yorkshire Rams www.yorkshirerams.co.uk enquiries@yorkshirerams.co.uk
    Manchester Titans Www.manchestertitans.co.uk Info@manchestertitans.co.uk
    Worcester Royals American Football www.worcesterroyals.com Worcroyalspress@gmail.com
    Dumfries Hunters slatstep@hotmail.co.uk
    Colchester Gladiators http://www.colchestergladiators.com
    Crewe Railroaders www.crewerailroaders.co.uk info@railroaders.co.uk
    Nottingham Caesars Www.nottinghamcaesars.co.uk
    Lancashire Wolverines Lancswolverines.co.uk
    Jurassic Coast Raptors https://www.facebook.com/Jurassiccoastraptors/
    Newcastle Vikings Www.newcastlevikings.com Info@newcastlevikings.com
    SOLENT THRASHERS Solentthrashers.co.uk Thrashersafc@gmail.com
    Cambridgeshire Cats Www.cambridgeshirecats.com
    Gateshead Senators www.gateshead-senators.com
    Aberdeen Roughnecks Www.aberdeenroughnecks.co.uk
    University Of Derby Braves bravesderby@gmail.com
    Burnley Tornados Www.tornadosafc.com Burnleytornadosafc@hotmail.com
    Birmingham Bulls www.birminghambulls.co.uk birminghambulls@live.co.uk
    Nottingham Caesars nottinghamcaesars.co.uk coachboseley@yahoo.co.uk
    Peterborough Saxons www.peterboroughsaxons.com
    Berkshire Renegades www.berkshirerenegades.com
    East Kilbride Pirates www.piratesfootball.co.uk info@piratesfootball.co.uk
    Glasgow Tigers http://glasgowtigers.info/
    Wembley Stallions www.wembleystallions.com chairman@wembleystallions.com
    Bristol Apache bristolapache@gmail.com
    Bristol Aztecs Aztecs.co.uk
    Chester Romans Www.chesterromans.net
    Oxford Saints www.oxfordsaints.com
    London Warriors AFC www.londonwarriorsafc.co.uk
    Somerset Wyverns somersetwyverns@gmail.com
    EDINBURGH WOLVES www.edinburghwolves.com info@edinburghwolves.com
    Highland Stags
    Hertfordshire Cheetahs www.hertfordshirecheetahs.com
    Torbay Trojans TorbayTrojans.co.uk
    Norwich Devils www.norwichdevils.com
    London Olympians AFC www.olympiansfootball.org
    Halton Spartans www.haltonspartans.com
    Worcestershire Black Knights
    Colchester Gladiators Www.colchestergladiators.com
    Swindon Storm www.swindonstorm.org
    Cornish Sharks AFT www.cornishsharks.co.uk
    Bury Saints www.burysaints.com
    Northumberland Lightning https://northumberlandlightning.wordpress.com/
    Ipswich Cardinals
     
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  26. muskrat21

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    3. if by agreeing with you is saying the opposite of what you say then sure.
    2. I've watched clips of home videos where a hold is replayed on the video board and people cheer but sure, whatever you say must be true.
    1. rugby players aren't 300+ pounds....
     
  27. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    DESSO GrassMaster® hybrid grass is used for the playing surface. Several NFL clubs also use it such as the Green Bay Packers and Denver Broncos.
     
  28. Simon

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cavubati
     
  29. Simon

    Simon The Other English Simon Club Member

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    Exactly.
     
  30. SocaCasualuk

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    Wow the team I play for! Never thought I'd see the storm represented on this site

    I agree with your point but can't ever see it happening. Football will always be an amatuer sport in the U.K. In my opinion, and when you look at the established sports in this country then that's fine, it knows it's place and is a well run and administered amateur game.
     
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    congrats 1 rugby player from the 1970s, over 40 years ago. that surely equates to the 8 or so in an nfl game all on the field at the same time. cause surely wembley was around in the 1960's when that guy was around right, right, right? can someone ban this troll pls?
     
  32. Brasfin

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    Do you happen to be Simon Clancy, by the way?
     
  33. DolPhinPhan7

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    Dolphins are popular in London.
     
  34. SICK

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    I think "Simon" is the "Michael" of America over there. So I doubt it, since Clancy is "Boomer" on here.
     
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    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    He was Boomer at Finheaven but I didn't even know he had an account here, TBH. But yeah, I guess it might have been naive of me to think there couldn't be two British Simons who are Dolphin fans. :laughy:
     
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  36. SICK

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    He posts in the club level here quite a bit.
     
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  37. Simon

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    No, I'm not Simon Clancy. Like Sick said, Simon is/was quite a popular name here (not so much now though). I work in the music biz (but not Simon Cowell! :laughy:)
     
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  38. SICK

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    Tell your friend Garfunkel we said hi :shifty:
     
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  39. Fin D

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    Well, we're mostly American and as such, if we know one person from another country then we think anyone else with that name from that country is the person we know. We also tend to believe one person from another country knows another random person from that country we may meet.
     
  40. Finster

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    Yes, I know they have it in the UK, but it is the equivalent to semi pro football here in the states, for the NFL I think the equation is more based on how many schools have american football teams? or a "Pop Warner"(country wide football program for youngsters) system in place?

    For the NFL to get a foothold in the UK, little UK urchins have to start playing football at a young age, with the facilities and opportunities to grow into NFL caliber players.

    So the more true fans of the sport that start being fans early in life, the more call there will be for schools to institute American football programs, then one thing leads to another, quality improves, national viewership of NATIONAL American football grows, NFL players from the UK start to sprinkle the NFL and then the ultimate in the eyes of the NFL, the UK WANTS it's very own team.

    Of course it will be in London, and then of course the Scots will want a team of their own, I think American football is most popular in Scotland, and the sport seems to suit them right to the ground.

    I think that the UK COULD be a great source of NFL talent, IF it ever really took hold, but the truth still remains that MOST little UKers want to bend it like Beckham still, and there's obviously nothing wrong with that, but if the NFL is ever going to get a foothold there, some UKids will have to start wanting to one hand it like Beckham jr.

    lol, see what I did there...
    :up: cheers!
     

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