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There has to be a better kicker available than Andrew Franks

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by btfu149, Dec 18, 2016.

  1. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    I'm excited as the next about last night, and I know that it's only one extra point missed but there has to be a better kicker available than Andrew Franks. His season long is what, 41 yards?

    Who is available right now?
     
  2. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I was thinking the same thing. It seems that this is a position that could be easily upgraded for little cap hit.
     
  3. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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    Some of the bigger names: Shayne Graham, Mike Nugent, Blair Walsh, Josh Scobee, Josh Brown.

    These guys are all free agents for a reason, and I'm not sure cutting a player after missing one PAT would send a positive message to the team. Franks doesn't have much of a leg, but he's money within 40-yards. The same can't be said for plenty of starting NFL kickers.

    However, I fully, completely, 100% support drafting or signing competition for Franks in the offseason. Just not right now.
     
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  4. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    It's not just the XP attempt though, we can't trust him past 40 yards and he is only converting 78% of his kicks.
     
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  5. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    There is a dude that kicked for WKU, I forget his name, but long German name I believe. That dude seemed to never miss anything. I don't know why no one has picked him up, he might not have the 60 yard long FG range, but if you want a money guy 45 and in and on XP, he would be a good pick up.
     
  6. dolfan40

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  7. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    Who is Simon Mathiesen?
     
  8. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Couldn't agree more. All season when Miami gets into normal FG kicker range, the announcers start talking about Frank not having a strong leg and that Miami needs to get it closer. Just not smart to handicap special teams with a kicker like Franks. There are much better options out there.
     
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  9. SICK

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    Franks is terrible. I am done with him.
     
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  10. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    It's that the first PAT he's missed?

    Could be worse, could be Sturgis or Carpenter.
     
  11. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Upgrade in the offseason
     
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  12. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    I remember when Carpenter made a 60 yard kick. But who cares, dude was a killer of dreams while he was a Dolphin, so he sucks.
     
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  13. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    This disparity in attempts says a lot about just how bad he is.

    It would be tough to gather the info, but I'd like to know how many drives Miami had that stalled within the range where a competent kicker could have attempted a long kick. How many drives did Miami just say, "**** it." and take a 5 yard delay of game and punt because their kicker has a wet noodle for a leg? How many points lost on drives like that?
     
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  14. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    i remember when people tried to convince me franks is better than sturgis.
     
  15. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone can convince me Franks is better than Shayne Graham. Graham may not have the strongest leg, but he has a career 85.5% conversion rate.

    BRING BACK OLINDO MARE!!!
     
  16. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Olindo Mare is only 43. Go sign him an old olindo is better than Franks.
     
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  17. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Plus, no more infield dirt to deal with.
     
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  18. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    0.0 faith in this kicker
     
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  19. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    Amazing how some can say it could be worse with Sturgis who is tied for second in the NFL with 32 field goals
    and an 86 % field goal percent
     
  20. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I was a supporter of Franks last year, and into this season, but the team clearly has no faith in him. I thought that last year's numbers might be a fluke, but after we set a franchise record for fewest FG attempts last season, we're set to have only slightly more this year.

    We went from 37 with Caleb Sturgis (hardly an excellent, reliable guy himself), to 16 last year, and then 18 so far this year. Since 1990 (when sortable stats like this begin), our lowest total was 21, in 2001, and its been over 30 almost every year, to give an indication of just how few FGs we've tried with Franks.

    We need to bring in a reliable veteran for next year. That doesn't mean trying to get one of the best. Just a guy that we can count on.
     
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  21. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    And your 2017 first round pick is...................
     
  22. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Okay, let me get this straight...

    We've won 8 of our last 9
    Some of these games we've won by a mere field goal...kicked by Franks no less

    And some of you are arguing we need a better KICKER? How about we focus more on better talent on the offensive line...so when we have a Pouncy or Albert or someone else go down, we don't struggle to get the ball into the endzone....end drives with TD's instead of FG attempts?

    The place kicker is the LONELIEST position on a football team. When the offense fails to deliver, the entire weight of a game is placed on his shoulders. He either becomes the hero or the heel so I ask, is it really fair?

    Think about it
     
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  23. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Just because something isn't the #1 problem on your list doesn't mean you can't have a discussion about it. Thats a really silly attitude, man. Evidence points to the team having little to no confidence in the guy that we have, so I'm eager to see an improvement to at least a league average player before next season.
     
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  24. resnor

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    Kicker needs to be a position where the guy hits everything...he's automatic. Look at NE, they went from Vinatieri to Gostkowski. If you don't have a guy that can kick from 45-50 yards with consistency, you need to keep looking.

    Doesn't mean it's the number one priority, but kicker definitely needs to be a priority.
     
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  25. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    But is it actually true? Franks hold the D-III record for the longest FG and while that is only 53 yards this is what Rizzi said about attempting a 70-yard FG.

    It depends on the conditions and all that,” Rizzi said. “I’ve seen [Franks] in warmups kick 64-yarders in the middle of the field. Again, he does have a strong leg. We actually tried a 64-yarder in practice yesterday that had about five or six yards left on it. Again, depending on the situation and depending on the conditions and all that stuff … last play of the half, last play of the game, things like that.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article109416712.html#storylink=cpy

    This is after the same game that Franks reached the end zone on a ko that was pushed back 15-yards for a penalty. I'm all for upgrading any position on the team but I really doubt there is a street FA kicker out there that doesn't have their own set of issues.
     
  26. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Well, the truth is, the coaches don't have him kicking field goals a whole lot.

    There has to be a reason.
     
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  27. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Franks is consistently launching kickoffs out of the back of the end zone, so this isn't a question of leg strength. He's just not kicking that often and our team is not gambling on turning the ball over with good field position. Just because you think a guy can hit from 65 doesn't mean you actually have him try it.
     
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  28. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Ummm, it's not a PROBLEM at all and creating a discussion about not having a kicker that can kick 50+ yard FG every game...creating a "problem" that needs to be discussed it quite silly.

    Franks has been doing just fine this season
     
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  29. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    If you think kicking under 80% of attempts without many long attempts to bring his percentage down, I think you should re-evaluate your thought process.

    We win the Seattle game week one with a better kicker who put any kind of loft on that short kick he got blocked. Franks literally could be why we miss the playoffs if we can not win these next two weeks.
     
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  30. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    throw this piece of **** in the plane engine die hard 2 style
     
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  31. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Franks is unreliable from just about any distance. He's a below average kicker by today's NFL standards.
     
  32. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Frank's ****ing sucks.

    Kicker is a huge problem when he's not dependable from 45.
     
  33. Nappy Roots

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    He forgives y'all MFers!!

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  34. btfu149

    btfu149 Well-Known Member

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    I eat crow today
     
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  35. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Who knew our better kicker than Franks was..... wait for it..... a BETTER Franks? I hope the kid can carry this game forward and make some more clutch kicks for us.
     
  36. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Not to make excuses, however, looks like the wind was hard to judge this game on those 40 yard kicks.
     
  37. MikeHoncho

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    Eating so much crow today


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  38. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    This poster is clueless and should be banned, possibly beaten
     
  39. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Everyone in this thread...

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  40. Runnincm

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    Have no faith but whatever
     

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