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Denver offers HC job to Joseph

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    the first domino has fallen


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  2. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    That didn't take long.
     
  3. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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  4. cbrad

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    Good news: this should reduce the number of "we need to get rid of VJ" posts.

    Either way, if Gase is worth his salt he'll do a Bill Belichick with assistant coaches and find a good replacement so it's just another test for our young (potentially great) HC.
     
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  5. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I hope Gase has someone already lined up.
     
  6. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Link? Probably true though. Mixed feelings about this. Maybe we can get Wade Phillips from Denver? I'd take that 'trade'.
     
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  7. thetylernator

    thetylernator You're as cold as ice, Officer Friendly.

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  8. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Damn... I'll wish him well, but this hurts.
     
  9. first&goal

    first&goal Luxury Box Luxury Box

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    I personally like Wade Phillips
     
  10. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    "Vance Joseph sucks!"

    *Immediately gets hired to a team a year removed from a super bowl victory and is renowned for spectacular defensive play the last couple years, by a guy who has won 2 super bowls as a player*
     
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  11. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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  12. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Just an aside but, rumors are Jim Washburn is retiring this offseason as well.
     
  13. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Meh...what does Denver know about anything?

    /sarcasm
     
  14. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I know, I know many of you are saying the Dolphins defense wasn't any good in 2016 but people, please use a little common sense. Miami lost Koa Misi before September was over, lost Reshad Jones in early October, starting cornerback Xavien Howard missed pretty much all of training camp then got injured early in the year missing most of the season, Byron Maxwell just when he started playing well at the end of the year got injured and missed most of December, and oh yeah Issa Abdul-Quddus was also lost for the home stretch in December with a neck injury. If that wasn't enough, one of the few bright spots on defense, Kiko Alonso, breaks his thumb and is playing the last month of the year with one hand essentially. You could dig up every great defensive coach in NFL history and they wouldn't have had success with this Dolphins defense this year. Miami had starters on the defensive line but the back seven was a second string unit for the most part let's just call it what it was.


    http://www.dolphinstalk.com/2017/01/who-is-matt-burke.html
     
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  15. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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  16. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 no? Don't know we have the personnel for that. (What limited personnel we do have)
     
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  17. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    What does the twitter feed read? Work blocks it and it won't show up. lol
     
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  18. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    So we have Burke lined up to take over. If that's the guy at least it will be a smooth transition. No new system
     
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  19. jdallen1222

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    "Vance Joseph is back at Broncos headquarters. Stay tuned. "
     
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  20. evo8904

    evo8904 Active Member

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    This is great news! Best news I have heard all day! Now, hire a DC with experience! No more position coaches! Changing the defensive system isn't a bad thing at all because our defense sucks. One of the worst defenses in the NFL. Being the worst means that **** needs to be changed, no excuses!
     
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  21. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    That's what I've been reading. Very smart guy and the players supposedly love him. If we don't have to change up the entire defense, get a few more playmakers, and get/keep some guys healthy I think the defense will be pretty good next year.
     
  22. SICK

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    Counter to that, if its a DC with experience, an he's available, he failed at one point. Not always bad to grab a young position coach ready to move up.
     
  23. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Yeah experience is everything, like how Gase had all that head coaching experience before he came to the Dolphins.
     
  24. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Actually, our defense was middle of the pack. 15th. It does need to improve, without question, but people are focusing too much on yards. Points are all that matters.
     
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  25. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Don't you know that all defensive coordinators in the NFL started as such? They've been coordinators in the beginning, and in the end. Everyone knows defensive coordinator is an entry position, there's never ever been a defensive coordinator that's been a position coach. Ever.
     
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  26. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    Called this in November and was told he would be here at least another season.
     
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  27. SocaCasualuk

    SocaCasualuk Active Member

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    I'm reading Burke is a done deal and Gase worked hard to get him from cincy last season as he thought Vance was a flight risk.
     
  28. evo8904

    evo8904 Active Member

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    How about checking the other stats. This was one of the worst defensive performances in team history.
     
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  29. evo8904

    evo8904 Active Member

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    That doesn't mean that we have to continually train position coaches to be DCs. We got lucky with Gase, not all position coaches are meant to be DCs, OCs or HCs. Look at our last experiment...Philbin! Hell, Philbin was actually a OC prior to being another failed Dolphin's HC.

    Promoting this LB position coach won't result in changes for next season. I'll call it now; our defense will be ranked 26-29 next year.
     
  30. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The premise of your original post was that you don't want the Dolphins to consider anybody besides guys that have already coached as defensive coordinators, which is a bad, short-sighted approach.
     
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  31. evo8904

    evo8904 Active Member

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    Do you remember all of the coaches that we took a chance on in the past 10 years? Do you want another "project" coach that needs training? Do you like having the worst defenses in the Dolphins history?
     
  32. TheOne

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    I think they should name Terrell Williams defensive cordinator.
     
  33. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    4th in 3rd down defense.
    13th in interceptions.
    17th in forced fumbles.
    19th in sacks.

    Yes, the defense wasn't good overall. Yes, they gave up way, way, way too many yards. But they weren't as bad as some people believe.
     
  34. evo8904

    evo8904 Active Member

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    Have you checked how they did against the run? 140 rushing yards oer game. It is also being said that this was the Dolphins worst defensive performance in franchise history.
     
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  35. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    So... what's going on with Wade Phillips? Seems dumb to get rid of him. He's done incredible things with that defense in denver.
     
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  36. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I'm a moron, yet you can't grasp anything I'm saying. Let's try this one more time. Maybe you'll understand it this time. I'll go slow for you.

    We gave up a ton of yards. Yes, I understand that. I've already said that twice.

    But (this is key, so pay attention), success is measured by points. We were in the middle of the road in points allowed. We were also middle of the road in other categories that I referenced above.

    In conclusion, no, our defense was not very good. I get that. And there is plenty of improvement to make. HOWEVER, it wasn't as bad as some people make it out to be when you factor in other categories, especially the most important one.

    Also, we had a ton of injuries, and overall a poor linebacker unit. None of which are Vance Joseph's fault.
     
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  37. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    will be interesting dilemma. I think he's out in Denver but I also think Gase wants to have his own guy here, not a former head coach
     
  38. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Ok. I'll say top 15 with the infusion of new talent and players returning from injury and the fact that everyone will be more familiar in year two of what their assignments are
     
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  39. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    No, it wasn't.
     
  40. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Say hello to Matt Burke, position coach with no DC experience.

    lol
     
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