Melty Ice BAHAHAHAHAHA, he and Russell Wilson are so over rated it's f****** hilarious! NFC lol, what a joke of a conference, Tannehill would dominate over there HAHAHA!
lol...If he was the GOAT I'd admit it. Why wouldn't I? Division rival? Probably before your time, but P. Manning started out playing in the Dolphins division. I told people back then that he was going to end up taking all of Marino's records. I hated him, but I admit he was a better QB than Marino. Rodgers is a better QB than Marino. Marino, P. Manning, and Rodgers are all better than Brady. Hell, I rooted for the Pats in the 2001 and 2003 Super Bowls. I really had no problems with them until they were caught cheating. Add to it that Brady has been elevated considerably because of the team, more specifically the defense, and yes, I find it ridiculous. Everything the media and those with little football acumen are saying about Brady they said about Aikmen. They said about Bradshaw. They've said about many QB's who aren't/weren't the GOAT. Brady is a HoF QB. He probably is top 2 or 3 in terms of studying, preparation, and drive. Everything else, he's not even top 10. He's been extremely lucky to play for the Pats. If he had been drafted someplace else no one here would know who "Tom Brady" is.
I'm not sure of your point here, because Matt Ryan played damn well enough to win that game. He made some pretty impressive throws last night. He played damn well all season too. He shouldn't have taken that late sack, but I'm not sure they should have been passing 3 straight plays in that situation either, and he really didn't have much of an opportunity to escape. Either way, a bad play for him. However, if that's your assessment of both players you mentioned, I'm not sure what you're basing that assessment on to be honest.
Matt Ryan is over rated, just like Russel Wilson. He is the MVP, but that don't mean much if you can't play well in the clutch. We're better off with Tannehill and Gase then we would have been had we drafted Matt Ryan, regardless of what our mostly moronic fan base believes, it's the truth.
I'm not sure how anyone can blame last night on Matt Ryan. If they run the ball in obvious run situations in that 4th quarter, they win the game. Period. It's not his fault that after he hit a big pass to Julio Jones, Kyle Shanahan decided to keep dropping back when all they had to do was run three times, kill the clock, and kick an easy field goal to ice the game.
There's a whole lot of unnecessary going on in this post. Especially the last part. As for Matt Ryan... I'm not sure where the over-rated part is coming from. It's not like anyone is out there saying this guy is an elite player, or the greatest ever or anything to that effect. He had a great season this year. His playoff play was relatively great. His play last night was more than enough to win them that football game. The defense couldn't get off the field, especially in the second half. He took a sack he shouldn't have, but that was really his only poor play in the game IMO. As for Russel Wilson. I'm not even going there. That's been well documented on this site. I'll just say I disagree with you and your assessments. We can leave it at that, because since you seem to want to address anyone who doesn't share your OPINION as "moronic", there's just not much to discuss around that. Pretty simple.
I heard Ryan say in an interview that he had no issues with Kyle's playcalling because they're an aggressive minded team, and that's just what they do with their pass weapons. Now, of course, being the pro he is he's not going to throw the OC that helped him to his best season in his career under the bus, but I just don't believe that he truly believes that. I get the idea of staying aggressive and wanting to pass because you really still need a score in that situation, but... you're already in field goal range. A FG there likely seals the deal, and of course so does a TD, but there's a time when even when you want to identify yourselves as "aggressive", you've got to be smart about it. If you want to pass, it should have been something quicker, a bit safer. The playcalls though, but them in a tough spot against a D who you know was going to go all out against you because they needed the ball back to score. It was tough. I get the mindset, but at the same time if it's me, I'm trying to avoid a negative play at all costs in that position as that FG there, if good (which is still an IF in that situation) essentially wins you the Super Bowl.
Oh come on, a lot of those scandals are pure BS. The latest one is the dumbest one of all. I've seen an experiment that proved the balls deflated on their own that much under those same circumstances. Plus he utterly destroyed them after he was given other footballs. Marino was a better pure passer, not QB. Manning was a better student, not QB. Rodgers makes more ridiculous plays, but isn't as resilient. He crumbled after being rocked by the Falcons. Belichick and Brady are both lucky to have each other. So were Montana and Walsh. Doesn't mean Brady isn't the GOAT. What more does he need to do than what he did last night? He had like 270 yards in the 4th quarter and OT alone. That answers your question before about my definition of clutch. Don't make me repost that too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You take Tannehill fandom to another level. He was outplayed by Geno Smith when he had an opportunity to claim a playoff spot. Matt Ryan came so close to defeating the greatest dynasty of our lifetimes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Lol, Matt Ryan is a loser, just like you hahaha. But hey he was close though, too bad in this business that don't count for much. This will be Ryan's 3rd blown playoff lead, the other two were 10 point and 17 point leads lol.
If the Falcons had kicked a FG at the end of the game to go up by 11 and the Pats went right down the field and scored a TD, they would have lost by 3 points. What would the "media" be talking about today? How "great" Ryan was. How "great" the Falcons defense was. How, if not for Brady's post season record 31st INT, the Pats would have won...etc...etc... Do you see how asinine it is to use wins as a measuring stick for individual performance? The Pats cheat. You "seen" an experiment? lol...Dude, you're so far out of your league here. First, the deflated balls obviously were Brady's preference. Only a fool, with the evidence given, would believe that Brady didn't have a couple of goons tamper with the footballs. Second, Brady wasn't punished for deflated footballs. Third, the deflated footballs helped the Pats with a statistically impossible turnover rate. And anyone with any football knowledge understands how important turnovers are in regards to winning/losing. Marino was a much better passer. And just as competitive. Manning had a better arm, was smarter, and worked just as hard. Rodgers isn't resilient? hahaha...I don't think you understand what that word means. Brady had 196 yards passing in the 4th quarter. He absolutely played horrible until the 4th quarter. He had something like a 68 passer rating before the 4th quarter. And out of those 196 yards, about 100 were YAC. His last pass in OT should have been picked-off.
I didn't realize Matt Ryan played defense. You do realize that trying to put down others doesn't make you or Tannehill better, right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Brady demolished the Colts with regulation footballs. So if "deflated" footballs, which were proven in an experiment to have deflated on their own, helped in turnover battles, then how did Brady have the best TD-INT ratio in a single season without them? Yeah, Brady is more resilient. He came back against the Falcons, unlike Rodgers. Also, "I've seen" is correct grammar. Don't act like you're smarter and then incorrectly attempt to correct somebody. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yeah, I've been trying to find the YAC for the Patriots in that game. Brady had a ton of yards, but a huge chunk of it had to have been YAC, cause he was throwing short passes a ton.
Do you realize that interceptions are not the only way to turn the ball over? Too funny. I was quoting you. LMAO! I wasn't correcting your grammar. You're a little insecure, huh? And by all means, ignore the rest of my post. haha
You're the one attributing deflating and cheating to their low turnovers. Interceptions are obviously a factor in the equation. So, by default, you're saying Brady benefited as a result. Except he set a TD-INT ratio record right after he served a 4 game suspension. So tell me how he benefitted. Don't just change the subject to fumbles because you can't defend your stance. You highlighted my use of "seen" and proceeded to tell me how I was out of my league. Don't backtrack now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It's clear you're lost. Look up the Pats impossible turnover rate once the rule changed in regards to allowing each team being allowed to supply their own footballs. Again, I quoted you. Would you rather I made something up and attributed a quote to you? lol... I also never wrote that you're out of your own league. You're all by yourself. lol
Another example of what I'm talking about. I'd call living in denial pathetic. All I'm saying is he's the GOAT. You and others can't stand it so you take it out on me. Whatever makes you feel better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It's clearly not impossible when Brady went 28-2 after serving a 4 game suspension for what you claim benefited him. That's a record. What you're doing is coming to a conclusion and then trying to find evidence for it. There's an experiment out there you can Google that proves the footballs deflated to the same level under the same circumstances. Get over it. Dynasties make unbelievable achievements. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think you should re-examine WHY he was able to do that. Actually, I'll do it for you. Go look up how many plays NE ran in the 4th quarter as opposed to Atlanta, then look up how many plays NE ran on offense to Atlanta's up to that point, and the entire game. That doesn't exactly point to a QB being clutch, it's more like a defense that wasn't able to get themselves off the field, and an offense (NE) that struggled to start the game against a D that had their number early, but ultimately was on the field too much and got exhausted as the game wore on. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to take anything away from his performance last night, because, he definitely played a big role in that comback, but it's far more than just saying "He was clutch" or "He's the best ever". I'm also not disputing your position on Brady being the best ever at the position, I'm just saying you've got to look at the game situation too. That Atlanta defense was gassed, and it showed, and it ultimately cost them. They were able to get to Brady, make him uncomfortable, force a pick 6, and force a fumble that helped put their team ahead, but ultimately they couldn't do that all game. They were out there too much. I think most of the top QB's and offenses in the league would have had their way with that defense at that point in the game. AGain, not taking anything away from Brady's performance, but it was a bit more than just him being "clutch"
I'm not taking anything out on you. I'm not even trying to debate who the best ever is. But I'm certainly not about to give Brady that award and then proudly wave it around in others faces. Fck him and his 4 yards a pass.
Come on Rock. This is so lame. By that logic why are we passionately discussing ANYONE in the sports world?
There's a moment for some people where it takes a hard left into irrational fanaticism. I've been there ..... but that was in my late teens. As I got older I realized how ridiculous it is. I mean we're not talking about a guy who punched his girlfriend in an elevator or was potentially part of a murder. We're talking about a student of the game who has played at a ridiculously high level for almost 20 years now. A guy who was an after-thought where he was drafted. You'd think an underdog like that would be a little bit more respected - especially within AFC East fan circles (I mean we've gotten to watch history unravel). Instead it's "F- that guy and anyone who respects him". It's loonie.
I'm telling a select few I told you so because they're in denial and like to argue based off emotion rather than logic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Isn't that more important? Regular and postseason? I mean that's why they play the game, for the postseason. According to you, the Dolphins don't have the best undefeated season. It was 14-0 I think? Patriots, 16-0. Right? No. Wrong. Patriots would be competitive as long as Belichick is coach. They won't be 5 out of 7 Super Bowls and not getting blown out of the two loses good.
Nice to see our fellow Tom Brady lovers who are somehow dolphins fans showing up and cheering for Tom in this thread. Smh pathetic.
As far as players on AFC teams that I'd wish would burn in hell, my respect goes to guys like Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith and Curtis Martin. Guys who weren't cry babies, douche bags or constantly caught in cheating scandals.
http://www.nbcsports.com/video/jason-taylor-tom-brady-best-qb-all-time " JASON TAYLOR: TOM BRADY BEST QB OF ALL-TIME"
