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I don't stop at Julius Thomas

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Feb 19, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    If OJ Howard or Njoku are there at 22, I draft them. I create mismatch nightmares all day long. Think of the redzone threats. Double tight end sets could be RT's best friend


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  2. hitman8

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    Terrible idea, we have glaring holes at linebacker and defensive end. TE is no longer a need with thomas in the fold. First two rounds of the draft need to be dedicated to LB and DE, followed by guard. TE is the least of our issues right now.

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  3. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Im assuming we get better through FA


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  4. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    right, by signing Revis, right?

    Great googily moogily.
     
  5. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    You SHOULD have stopped at Julius Thomas....


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    Seriously though, #22 HAS to be DE/LB, with the only offensive exception being a stud Guard to complete the OL if necessary.
     
  6. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    if Cheap, yes
    I'm not in favor of overpaying these guys. One year prove me deal would be great. He's already made his money
     
  7. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    you always pick the best player available. You start drafting need and youre going to be reaching..
     
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  8. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    No actually you don't, if you already a position loaded with talent you don't draft that position even if it is the BPA. Say if you already have Dan Marino you don't draft John Elway even if he is the BPA.

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  9. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    How is adding Julius Thomas make us loaded at TE? Keep your expectations down, this guy hasnt done **** since Peyton Manning record breaking season.
     
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  10. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    My point was in regards to always picking BPA in general. In regards to our TE situation if we really do have Thomas and then resign dion sims as has been suggested then we no longer have a real need at tight end. There is no real sure fire pick at tight end this year either they all have some question marks so why would we draft one in the first round when we have much bigger needs in other areas? First and second round should be all about linebackers and defensive line and maybe guard.

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  11. Disgustipate

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    Julius Thomas shouldn't rule out an additional TE in the draft. Especially if you end up losing Kenny Stills in the off-season, you've got the targets and snaps to be a 2-TE based team.
     
  12. gunn34

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    I think if we just resign Sims, the TE position is done as far as the draft goes. We need far too many defensive pieces and two guards. We don't have that many picks.
     
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  13. Disgustipate

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    Your offense and defense are nearly equal in terms of performance last year. You should be allocating resources wherever the good players that happen to be available to you happen to play.

    Dion Sims shouldn't be a reason to avoid upgrading the position. He shouldn't be starting unless it is paired with another, more productive tight end.
     
  14. tirty8

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    Just a thought if Howard there and we take him, we could be the Gronk/Hernandez Patriots which is a matchup nightmare. If you have Landry, Parker, Ajayi, Thomas, Howard in the huddle, it could be anything from a single back formation, to an I formation, to a single back shotgun, to a spread form. This is exactly how you get the defense out of position... But that's just my thought...
     
  15. Deus ex dolphin

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    If Gase wanted to go in that direction, I can see the offensive potential. One issue though? Neither TE has shown they can be much of a blocker, so the rushing attack would be less of a threat that it should be. Teams could just play the pass most downs, expecting Thomas or Howard to miss their block and give a DE/LB a chance to stop Ajayi in the backfield.
     
  16. dirtylandry

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    Great post, but if we upgrade the guards? Sims gets a bad rap, but he had to stay in to block a lot. Miami has gotten the offseason started like 2 weeks early. They obviously want some pieces in place to attack FA avgressively and w a plan


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  17. Silverphin

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    To be honest, I wouldn't draft one in the first two rounds because we have needs to be addressed. However, I wouldn't mind adding another tight end through the draft.
     
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  18. P h i N s A N i T y

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    I like this idea. Let's not assume J.Thomas is going to return to form and catch 10 TDs. This franchise has been looking for a consistent TE since Fasano, Clay. There's been a huge void in our passing game. I'm not sold on Njoku, but would jump on OJ Howard.

    As far as needs go: many have already forgotten Marqueis Gray and what he offers as a blocker. He has a role in the offense. We DO have a blocking TE. We also have project T.Duarte. Our glaring needs reside along the defensive front 7, so ideally a LB or DE is available that we like.

    Reality is that it's likely players ranked higher on our board will be there... Whether it's the slew of DBs, or one of the TE's. I'm not against fortifying the TE position, because to assume it's adequate enough with J.Thomas replacing Sims would be foolish. TE is still one our biggest needs & not out of play early in the draft.

    Elite TE's are the rarest of commodities in this league....can put an offense over the top.
     
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  19. brandon27

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    I like your thought process here when it comes to setting up 2 TE sets and creating mismatches, no doubt about that. I also like the idea simply because Thomas has battled some injuries as of late, so who knows what we're really getting there production wise. It could be Jordan Cameron 2.0.

    However, if we don't address DE/LB and G during free agency, I don't think we have the luxury of taking a TE at 22. I know you mentioned you're doing this assuming we address those spots in FA, and I can get behind that plan if that's the case. I just think it's going to be difficult to address all of those needs in FA. I have to think regardless of FA, 22 becomes a defensive pick. Unless we sign LB & DE's that can come in and start right away in free agency that is.

    I love the thought though of having Parker, Stills (I WANT him back, no doubt), Landry, Thomas and another impact TE, along with Ajayi or another weapon out of the backfield. As long as we can get some pass pro, that could really create a deadly offense for Miami.

    Bottom line at this point, we can throw out all these idea's and scenarios all we want on the draft and picking at 22, but until we see what happens in free agency and how many holes we can fill, we really don't know.
     

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