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Mando, as usual with some great points.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by hitman8, Mar 15, 2017.

  1. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    ...I'm ok, I'm ok...


    ....he said as usual....

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  3. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Great contribution. Keep it up...

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  4. Fin D

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    If you think Armando regularly makes great points, then I hope against hope that you find my thoughts on a matter, stupid.
     
  5. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Congrats, you don't have to hope on that one.

    And yes Mando is probably the best dolphins reporter and analyst there is and has been for years. He is usually right in what he says.

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  6. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Wasn't it Armando who said that a 3 technique tackle is responsible for three gaps along the defensive front?

    I think so. And after such stupidity nothing he says means much to me. Just ridiculous.
     
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  7. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Where did you see that? Even so making a mistake on an X and O technicality does not negate his overall record.

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  8. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    The best dolphins reporter? Please tell me you're joking. You can do much better than that for news about the phins.

    The Club Level here will give you more info that he ever will. And just so you know he has definitively taken topics from this board and used them as his topics.

    His underling once blatantly plagiarized info Boomer, Ck and myself produced and claimed it was his own even though he was 3 days late in producing it and it was copied word for word.

    That's not being the best at anything. You can do better, so don't settle for his writings. You're better than that.
     
  9. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Yeah it does, as he has time to fact check before he publishes the article.

    This comes from probably 4-5 years ago, and when he was called out on it went ape ****. Even without that incident he has produced some crappy articles over the years not based in fact and stretched the definition of hyperbole.
     
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  10. 'Phinomenal`Phanatic'

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    That's insane. Did anyone sue his lazy butt?
     
  11. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    We asked him to take it down or credit the actual authors. If he didn't do either yes we did indicate that the paper would be sued.

    This is when we used to produce the Draft Winds articles for Dave Hyde.
     
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    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Armando Salguero is a garbage writer, and I'm skeptical whatever inside sources he has weren't fed to him by Barry Jackson.
     
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  13. Disgustipate

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    That was Omar Kelly.
     
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  14. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Mando is one of the biggest morons in the sports writing world. Anyone who thinks Mando is anything but a hack is either Mando in disguise or clueless.
     
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  15. Fin D

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    Then all is right in the world.

    Hey, since you're the guy that thinks a player at a certain position foretells what will happen with a different player at the same position, I wonder...is it the same with reporters. I mean can we tell what's going to happen in Armando's future based on what happened to other Dolphin's reporters?
     
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  16. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    The level of your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

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  17. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Than I stand corrected. I knew it was one of them.

    I was wrong to state Armando did it. But I remember there was an article he produced that was simply ridiculous, I cannot remember the exact topic but it was asinine.

    Thanks for the correction.:up:
     
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  18. Fin D

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    Excellent. I know I'm right then.

    I hear when Ben Volin was here he got carpal tunnel, I guess Mando probably will too....
     
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  19. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    99% of his articles are ridiculous. lol
     
  20. dolphin25

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    It is important to keep your good quality guys at the right price.
     
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  21. hitman8

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    Exactly, at the right price. We overpaid for branch while letting a better player in Vernon walk when we could have had him for the same price.

    Keeping your own guys is great if its at the right price and the right time.

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  22. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    LMFAO!! You actually believe that because Mando wrote it!! HAHAHAH!!!
     
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  23. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    No, I knew that as soon as I heard the terms of Branch's contract.

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  24. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Knew what? You still don't understand what happened with OV.
     
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  25. SICK

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    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Stills is a hard to find commodity. He opens up the offense in a way only few wrs in the NFL can.

    Branch is okay. We paid him what it costs to keep a starting DE in the NFL. Do we look for upgrades? Yes, but we needed him for now.

    This team just made the playoffs with a backup QB and no healthy secondary starters. Can they get a *little* faith?
     
  27. byroan

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    How are Branch and Vernon the same price? Not even close. Just because Mando says Vernon would have signed a lesser deal, doesn't mean it's true.

    Branch: 3/8/2017: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $17 million guaranteed. 2017: $2.9 million (guaranteed), 2018: $7.9 million (guaranteed), 2019: $6.9 million, 2020: Free Agent

    Vernon: 3/9/2016: Signed a five-year, $85 million contract. The deal contains $52 million guaranteed. Vernon is eligible for an annual $20,000 workout bonus throughout the contract's life. 2017: $11.75 million, 2018-2019: $15.25 million, 2020: Free Agent

    Mando is a step above Omar and that's not saying much.
     
  28. brandon27

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    I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone praise Salguero before. This is strange. I remember hearing him on Sirius NFL before. I think it was during the early struggles last year. Even the guys interviewing him were a bit perplexed at his logic. After his interview segment they were like well, there you have it from Armando Salguero... *long pause* Obviously some uh, interesting opinions there. It was pretty obvious from listening to him answer questions he didn't really have a clue, or solid source on whatever opinion they were asking him about. It was quite comical and painful.

    As for the article.. To even try to compare what we've done here to NE is a bit insane IMO. NE has the luxury of letting these guys go because they've had stability in player selection, talent evaluation, and player development for so long. They have the ability to let their vets walk, and let the developing players come in and step up, and move them for extra picks and such. That's the benefit to doing it the right way for as long as they have. We haven't had that luxury, but you have to start somewhere. You look at the guys we kept, and look at them outside the lines. What are they? They're guys who have been key contributors on the field, but even more so off it and buying into the program. It's guys like that, that help entrench that stability for you, that help getting everyone in that locker room buying in and on the same page. The culture change is happening, and you need guys who are doing it the right way to buy in to that system. That's happening and is a pretty big reason IMO that those guys were all retained. Yes, even Branch. Comparing that situation to OV is a bit ridiculous IMO. Are both overpaid? Probably, yup. Branch wants to be here though, Branch has bought in to what we're doing here. OV was chasing a big payday, and IMO had a pretty underwhelming season sack wise. The Giants paid him like an elite pass rusher, and he picked up 63 tackles, and 8.5 sacks. Branch picked up 49 tackles and 5.5 sacks for a fraction of the price. OV is likely not going to be worth that cash. Branch may not be either, but it's a salary and deal that's not going to break you as opposed to OV's

    Armando though just likes to pick and choose the "facts" he wants to represent depending on what story he's trying to push. Which is exactly why his opinion shouldn't really be taken seriously at all, if ever. Just because he's "plugged in" to the team and a sports writer, doesn't mean he has a clue. He's been way off base far more than he's been accurate. Now if you're comparing him to Omar Kelly, and that's why you're saying he's making great points as usual, then sure, I'll give you that... but is that really a good thing?
     
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  29. Two Tacos

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    Until the Kaepernick shirt thing, I think Mando was mostly known for plagiarizing Draft Winds and the high fiving dolphin losses. Now he apparently has fanboys, I'm guessing because of Kaepernick?
     
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    Look, I am not going to blindly cheerlead everything gase and the front office does because they are new and we went 10-6 last year.

    I predicted before the season that we should get about 9 to 11 wins based on the talent we had going in and the strength of schedule which was favorable.

    Gase does deserve alot of credit for doing a great job with an injured depleted roster, but 10 and 6 was about what I expected from them.

    Now going into next season our schedule will get tougher, and our talent level has not improved, it has actually gone down as of now. If everybody doesn't stop patting each other on the back for being the last seed in the playoffs I fear we will regress and not even make it next year.

    A healthy dose of skepticism and critical thinking is in order in my opinion. Gase and the FO have not actually proven themselves to be geniuses as of yet and alot of you need to put down your pom poms and put on your thinking caps.

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  31. danmarino

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    I don't believe any of this...

    Before the season started out their SoS was one the toughest in the league. IIRC, around 10th. So I don't believe you had them winning 9-11 games.
    And before the season started did you also figure in the amount of injuries the Dolphins had? No, you didn't. Unless you claim psychic abilities.
    Talent level has not gone down. lol...Jeez, Mando, get a new shtick.

    Skepticism you have too much of and critical thinking you have not enough.

    A first season HC, with a depleted team playing in a new scheme made a playoff run and you don't call that good?

    ("A lot" is two words.)
     
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  32. GreysonWinfield

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    This sums up every bit of why NE has been so good for so long. You can also point to The Steelers having a similar luxury.
     
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    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    And yet some "fans" get all butthurt over FA. As if the Dolphins and past regimes over the last 15 years haven't been FA "winners" multiple times. lol
     
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    Thanks for the spell check. And yes I did predict 9 to 11 wins. At the beginning of the season we had a pretty talented team and I was optimistic about gase's coaching ability.

    I repeat I didn't factor in so many injuries and gase deserves credit for that, but from a pure talent perspective this team right now is not better than last year's day one roster.

    The offensive line is in worse shape and so is the defensive line and the defensive backfield. The linebacker unit is marginaly better with the addition of timmons but even that isn't saying much because our linebackers last year were some of the worst in the league. All the other units (WR, QB, TE, and ST) are about the same as last season. Overall we have a less talented roster right now.

    BTW I am not mando so please stop referring to him in my posts.

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  35. danmarino

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    More moving of the goal posts and/or lies.

    What happened to you claiming that their SoS was easy before the season last year? Oh, that's right, you were caught in a BS lie and didn't respond to that.

    Again, I don't believe you had them winning 9-11 games. Gase, albeit looked like the right man for the job, had yet to coach a game in the NFL. And with the way you run around this board crying at everything the Dolphins do I don't believe you liked him either.

    How is the DL worse off?
    How is the OL worse off?
    TE is about the same? lol

    Whatever you say, Mando.
     
  36. hitman8

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    I did not move the goalposts, I looked at the schedule, looked at the talent, and predicted 9 to 11 wins. Wether you believe me or not is water off my back.

    Offensive line: We let go of albert and bushrod and replaced them with Ted Larsen. We are right now worse on the OL talent wise.

    Defensive line: Got rid of Mario Williams, Jason Jones and Earl Mitchell. Replaced them with Hayes. Worse off.

    Defensive backfield, lost abdul qudous, replaced him with Allen. Worse off.

    TE: Got rid of Jordan Cameron and dion sims to replace them with thomas and Fasano. We replaced an injury prone starting tight end and and a primary blocking tight end with another injury prone tight end and primary blocker. It could turn out better or could turn out the same or worse. Its a wash at this point imho.

    All the other units are basically unchanged from last year.

    I am as much Mando as you are actually Dan Marino.

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  37. invid

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    I'll answer this; they really aren't. Who'd we lose? Mario Williams? He was nonexistent all last year, replaced by a DE much better suited to defend the run (another complaint of a lot of posters late last year). Who'd we lose on the OL? Branden Albert, oft-injured and declining, replaced by a guy who would have been a #1 overall pick if not for quarterback needs and a bong video. The corners will be the same, most of them young and developing (I'm personally not sold on Lippett but am holding out he continues his growth into the CB position). Safety maybe, but we only had Reshad Jones for 1/3 of the year. He's back. Nate Allen was not the worst signing at safety, especially considering he has something to prove after an injury year and an FA contract that he didn't live up to. The Nate Allen signing and William Hayes trade were the exact kind of shrewd signings we made last year in players like IAQ. Not otherworldly, but dependable enough to be competitive during a full season while this organization continues to churn the roster through the draft and other means (signing Deon Lacy from the CFL, linebacker depth and special teams demon). All of this while keeping enough cap stashed to pay players that are known commodities within the Miami Dolphins. Doesn't sound like a bad plan to me. It might require a little patience, something a lot of people lack nowadays, but hopefully there won't be any offseason where we are buried under the cap.
     
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  38. invid

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    Jesus man, Jermon Bushrod was arguably the worst guard in football last year. You're the PFF guy, right? Why is Bushrod part of your argument?
     
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    Doesn't matter, I am looking at talent level day one. Bushrod didn't have the best season due to injuries and playing a new position but on day one he was a former pro bowl left tackle starting at guard. Larsen is a backup quality guard and has been his entire career. He is not the guy who is going to significantly upgrade our line play. And you are ignoring the other hole we have at the other guard spot becsuse we let albert go. Overall the talent level on the oline right now is significantly worse than on day one last year. That is a fact.

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  40. LI phinfan

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    Imagine if it was only a week into FA and we had a draft and June 1st cuts to explore??. Never mind, gloom and doom on.


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