No thats my take from everything i've been hearing out of Miami. LOL and who would care what Sparano or BILL would say about anything they are both full of it.You of all people should know that. By now. Remember the days just before they got CP it was all in the news, them saying things that would make one think they wanted no part of CP , them BAM he's here. CP is only here because they gave up on both Beck and McCown.
I find it highly enetrtaining those that act so much smarter than everybody whn in fact they arent coming with anymore factual evidence than anyone else.
Ever since Monday a'lot of people have been saying they are trying to move Beck. Beck's play is the writing on the wall lol for real go and watch last years last PS game.That was when i knew the kid should sit for two years. Look i'm not one of the crazyzzzzzzzzzz from FH saying we should just cut the guy.I'm saying the same thing i was saying a year ago at this time.He needs to learn and not play at all this year.
And "a'lot of people" have been proven wrong. Sparano's denial yesterday that Beck has been cut (because, y'know, he hasn't been) was accompanied by reports that stated rumors of Beck being shopped for trade were incorrect; Beck has not been put on the trading block. And given that the author of the report is Jeff Darlington, the Herald's last remaining reliable sports writer and one of four people in South Florida sports media worth a damn, it's eminently believable. At this point you are engaging in self-delusion.
Yawn....... CP is here because Bill feels he's a better vet option than the only other vet on our roster McCown. That's a pretty easy assessment to make as well considering McCown has never been able to hold down a starting job. The decision on whether Beck is promising enough of a prospect to keep around is another decision altogether.
Desides, do not believe a single thing anyone in the Dolphins Organization says concerning player personnel moves. We can go through the entire Jason Taylor progression to being a Redskin if anyone would care to stroll down memory lane.
You mean the reports that said Parcells was negotiating for a first round pick in trade discussions? Jason Taylor does not somehow invalidate the decisiveness and relative transparency with which this front office has acted. Mueller was gone immediately, Cameron shortly thereafter. Zach Thomas was gone ASAP. Darlington broke the news of our negotiating with Jake Long. Ireland told us when he wanted to get the draft picks signed by. Roster cuts and additions were made quickly and as needed, from Julius Wilson to Jay Feely. For a football operation, we've been fed a remarkably low amount of BS by these guys. Compare this to the cloak and dagger stuff we got from Nick Saban, especially when he agonized for weeks over the Culpepper/Brees decision. I've yet to hear a concrete reason why I should believe Beck has one foot out the door, especially in light of how Feely was held out of practice for two or three days while trades were discussed. If you have something to say, say it to me, not him.
The first sentence of the Darlington article is "There's no question Dolphins quarterback John Beck's future in Miami is currently in jeopardy." Just sayin.'
That's funny you mention that. Since he's the "last remaining reliable sports writer and one of four people in South Florida sports media worth a damn". I can't wait until tommorows game...that's the only thing I "trust"...actual playing time so I can form my own opinions.
No, he may not need acceptance and if that's the way he chooses to go, fine...the problem is that even tho these guys are 'blogging' since they are members of the paid media, they should still have some integrity about their work and their reporting. I don't see that from Kelly, Salguero, etc...
Indeed. Since it's unlikely we keep 4 QBs, it comes down to him or McCown getting the axe. (Okay, technically McCown already got the axe. Still.) I'm not disputing that.
Thanks for your opinion and for such a classy response. Larryfinfan, I guess I don't really need my sports news to be full of integrity and whatnot. I just want sources of information. That's all I look for. I don't need them to tell me what I want to hear. I don't need them to cater to my opinion. I don't need them to form my opinion. I just read what they write and go from there. Wether I agree or not, does not matter. For example, I'm not fond of Armando. Not because of how or what he says. Because he sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about. Yet, I still occasionally read his blogs and reports. WHY? Because he's writing about the Phins and I lub em! I'm through talking about the media. The truth is, someone will always find ways to discredit them and nothing will change.
So you are saying that you don't care if the reporting is true or not you just want something, anything, written about the Dolphins. It doesn't matter to you if there is little or no truth to the writing? Or if facts are left out so that what is written appears to be true but isn't because all the facts were not presented? I'm not trying to argue with you; I would really like to know if this is how you feel about reporting/blogging?
huh? I did answer your general question. You asked me if I care that "there's little or no truth to the writing"? and I answered that I know the difference between fact and opinion. But if you insist on asking again, I'll entertain you and even answer the multiple questions you asked. I didn't say that. I said I wanted sources of information. Again, I think I can put one and one together and come up with my own conclusion. Maybe by comparing reports or looking for official statements from the dolphins organization. I can form my own opinion. I think the quality of writing is more important. The way the opinions and/or facts are laid out to deliver a message. I don't look for a fact sheet when I read a blog. I look for what the author thought about the subject(title). If he can entertain me while informing me about something to do with the dolphins(in this case), Im pleased with the blog. Nice touch. You're doing the same thing. Infact, it's what most people do when writing something they believe in....like on these message boards. You're leaving out the fact that they are opinion columns and they don't have to read like an encaeclopedia. Andy Kent or Andy Cohen should present only fact and little(if any) opinion. They write for the Dolphins. But anyone who doesn't expect a columnist to add some personal thought here and there or to leave out certain things is naive. What good is it to say Chad Pennington will not be injured if right after you mention he's been injured every season(except one). You'll be out of a job, quickly. You ask me a crazy, fabricated statement and then ask me if that's how I feel? No, I don't feel that every reporter/beat writer/columnist has joined together in conspiracy to write articles full of lies to deface the dolphins organization. I hope I have now answered your question because I rather not talk about the media anymore.
your right anything can be twisted. Your doing it now. You act like its natural to leave out info. Yes if it isnt pertinent to teh converstation. BUT if it is a comparison of a qb battle and say for example Beck throws and int vs 1st unit and Henne throws one vs 2nd, but in teh reporting its a 2 Paragraph write up for Becks while Henne's is either footnoted or omitted, even if it is an opinion piece it is a deliberate intention of teh writer to sway public opinion and change perception to what he believes. It is bs, National enquirer stuff.
It does not matter what a reporter writes. Someone will always accuse him/her of "leaving facts out" or being "bias(ed)". They can't please everyone, you know? It's impossible. Instead of throwing stones, why not just shake your head in disagreement/disappointment and move on to someone who you think is more factual. Or even go as far as posting about how much you disagree with them on a message board. It's just that I'm one of the people who DONT think Omar(or even Armando) is a bum, idiot or should fall off a cliff so at first....it shell shocked me. I'm over it though. I'll never mention it again. I MUCH rather talk about todays game(which has me staring at the clock) and/or the Dolphins.
Because those phony bias stories are then used and regurgitated here as fact and cause arguments between members. Instead of arguing stories that are blatant BS, people are pointing out the fact that the "reporter", in this case Omar, has an agenda and he isn't being truthful. I don't know how many times we have to compare his writeups to those of his fellow journalists from other papers before people realize that Omar is full of crap. When Beck does well he doesn't report it, instead he highlights what he did wrong while talking up Henne and leaving out his mistakes. And when Beck has a great day in practice with 3 TD's and what one reporter called "the throw of the day".....Omar doesn't even bother covering the practice and no mention is made anywhere on the SS. What did he spend his time worrying about? He and Harvey were more concerned with skewing ck's poll over at FH to make it look like people actually support them. Is that responsible journalism or highschool nonsense?
Yeah, Mike O was a real piece of work. I remember a blog of his that stated that "everyone should leave Dave W alone because the players responded to him and he had us on the right track"....ROFLMAO! What a knucklehead!
I think the quickest way get excoritated on this site is to be critical of Beck. Omar could be Omar in every other way, but if he was on the Beck Bandwagon, everyone would just say "Omar has his own style". But because hes critical of Beck, hes partial, hes slanted, hes not to be believed and hes got an agenda.
Brother, it's not about being right or wrong, it's about recognizing when a reporter is being less then honest and holding him accountable. What if Omar all of a sudden decided that he didn't liek Samson Satele? What if he started writing articles about how Satele was doing horrible and how he was in danger of being cut, released or traded even though that wasn't the case? Then our members read those writeups, come here and start creating/hijacking threads with "Satele is a bust! Cut him now!" and it brings the level of conversation down a few notches and creates arguments between Omar's readers and people who know better.
That's BS, Omar clearly has a bias, we've pointed that out and given in depth examples and to insinuate that it's anything other than that is disingenuous.
You can't just look at numbers. Look at the kinds of passes. Look at the comfort level in the pocket. Look at WR drops. Henne outperformed Beck, and IMO, it really wasn't close. And if it wasn't for this site, I would barely know who Omar Kelly is, and I would still think that Henne is better than Beck. I thought it when we drafted him and nothing has happened to change my mind. Or the coaches, either appearently. And Yes, if Omar liked Beck, you guys would be giving Omar props. No need to deny that.
It is rested. Henne is better. Everyone (almost everyone) knows it. But if I'm wrong (along with most everyone else) Beck will be the #2 QB opening day. And I'll have no problem saying that I erred. But I doubt that happens.
Beck might have a higher % because he dumps the ball off to the FB. Henne was throwing the ball down field and having WRs drop the passes. You can't hold that against the QB.
I disagree and I think its totally BS to suggest that Omar's problems here are anything other to do with his opinion of Beck. I support Beck being here and I catch hell because I don't him to be the annointed starter. The affinity that Beck has with some of "you people" is crazy. But it is what it is.
